people still think the earth is flat

[the wiggle baron]

I have seen other photos where it is really distinguished, amongst others..

this isn't proof that rosegarden in helsinki is almost spherical (it isn't), but just that someone's used a really wide-angle lens.

put it this way, you're trying to project a panorama on to something flat. if you want a 4:3 image at the end of it, distortion ensues.

Isn't that just a fish eye lens? Pretty sure if youre using a standard (possibly not wide angled) lens you're going to get an accurate representation.

Oh, and the ruler thing really does work! Anyone who lives near the sea/in Holland give it a go!

[fooishbar]

The iceberg isnt curved though, so how do you explain that?

actually, it is, but even if it wasn't, that wouldn't prove anything.

[pk]

surely all you need to show the curvature of the earth is a really tall object and a wide flat open space

if you walk far enough away from it the bottom will start disappearing

[ashley]

surely all you need to show the curvature of the earth is a really tall object and a wide flat open space

if you walk far enough away from it the bottom will start disappearing

Which is why when you are on a boat you cant actually see the sea shore when you are a few miles out.

Like france for example?

[fooishbar]

put it this way, you're trying to project a panorama on to something flat. if you want a 4:3 image at the end of it, distortion ensues.

Isn't that just a fish eye lens? Pretty sure if youre using a standard (possibly not wide angled) lens you're going to get an accurate representation.

yeah, it is an extremely wide (though not fisheye: fisheye is ironically more honest) lens. there isn't some magic cutoff at which point distortion occurs, though: you'll see it gradually reducing as you get less and less wide. for instance, 16mm is an extremely wide lens, and will give you some pretty insane results. most dslrs at least ship with the widest being 28.8mm, which, while not being insane, will still show up some distortion like that.

it depends what you're taking photos of, both foreground and background, the positioning of these relative to each other and especially to you, etc.

[jonnyrebel]

THE EARTH IS FUCKIN ROUND

THOSE PICS ALL SHOW THE CURVE

THAT PIC IN THE CLUB IS A FISH EYE

[ashley]

THE EARTH IS FUCKIN ROUND

THOSE PICS ALL SHOW THE CURVE

THAT PIC IN THE CLUB IS A FISH EYE

your eyes are curved man, thats what makes the sun appear round but really its square

[jonnyrebel]

THE EARTH IS FUCKIN ROUND

THOSE PICS ALL SHOW THE CURVE

THAT PIC IN THE CLUB IS A FISH EYE

your eyes are curved man, thats what makes the sun appear round but really its square

is that why your mum looks fat?

[ashley]

THE EARTH IS FUCKIN ROUND

THOSE PICS ALL SHOW THE CURVE

THAT PIC IN THE CLUB IS A FISH EYE

your eyes are curved man, thats what makes the sun appear round but really its square

is that why your mum looks fat?

No, really she is inverted cripple but because the curve of the earth and the sun in the sky and quantum entanglement she appears to actually be standing straight.

[jonnyrebel]

Touche



I probably got the wrong hole then

[ashley]

Touche



I probably got the wrong hole then

Maybe you should look with your eyes open.

[jonnyrebel]

[fooishbar]

THE EARTH IS FUCKIN ROUND

i never said it wasn't. i believe that it's round, but if you want to prove it, do it properly.

(yes, the picture in rosegarden was a fisheye. yes, the picture of the sea is also a reasonably wide angle lens. both produce distortion, to different degrees. re-read what i said before, particularly the last post on the last page.)

[deamonds]

surely all you need to show the curvature of the earth is a really tall object and a wide flat open space

if you walk far enough away from it the bottom will start disappearing

edit im a tnuc, just got what he said

[abZ]

that's a really interesting read. i already knew about flat earthers from doing a level religious studies and was under the impression that the argument for it was purely bibical due to a quote in the bible that refers to "the four corners of the earth" meaning that it must be flat; but that article seems to suggest otherwise. it made far more sense that flat earth theory was based on christian fundamentalists blindly accepting a mis-quoted passage from the bible than it being a secular theory. it's just mind boggling to think that people can still believe it

Here is something that might blow your mind. Psalms 103 verse 12 "As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us."

That would suggest that the world IS round because the first part is illustrating that there is an infinite amount of space between the east and west since if you keep going east you will just keep going east and never reach the west. It wouldn't make sense any other way. If you said as far as the north is from the south it wouldn't work either as if you keep going north eventually you will be going south.

ermmm, with the danger of getting onto religion again, that doesn't seem that mind blowing a statement...and I might be mis-interpreting but personally something saying "as far as the East is from the West" to me would suggest that it isnt implying a globe but a flat surface, otherwise East eventually becomes West and it all depends on where your perspective is from? - a flat surface would be the one having a centre and furthest East being as far away as possible from furthest West?

This isn't talking about the eastern and western hemispheres. If you travel east you will never reach the west you will just keep going east. Unless the world IS flat