Pie & Mash Appreciation

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Never really got into it, sometimes i feel shit from it and other times i'm fine, too random to bother with.

[christophera]

but it's science, which as we all know is a vast conspiracy, and anyone who trusts anything written by anyone who isn't on an internet forum is a brainwashed idiot.

THEY'RE TRASHING THE FLOW OF DATA, TRASHING, TRASHING

64. If a fool be associated with a wise man (pandita ) even all his life, he will perceive the truth as little as a spoon perceives the taste of soup.

65. If an intelligent man be associated for one minute only with a wise man, he will soon perceive the truth, as the tongue perceives the taste of soup.

[christophera]

if you don't taste the soup, you might be a spoon

[bellybelle]

its not the drug its self that is causing it, its the mentality it puts them in and the people they ascociate with through drug use

its like "hey smoking weed is so good, i think we should try other drugs"
and when your blazing with a coke head and they go "here u want a line?" and you think, hey hes a cool guy, he doesn't seem fucked up, i may aswell try it.

if i had a penny for the amount of times i have turned down weed/coke, i would be, okay not a millionaire, but i would be pretty well off.

Yeah but see....I'm a daily (and multiple times a day) smoker. I have friends who do a lot more than that. They can (and have) come over to my house, with some herb and some yayo, pack a bowl and line up a few lines on my table, with always a few left out for me. Since I don't wanna do it, I don't. My friends can and have gotten shit-faced drunk around me. I can't stand alcohol and no matter what they do or how they act, I stick to my Dr. Pepper. I've never had the urge to do ketamine or mescaline or heroin, for that matter. But I smoke weed. Every day.

You see what I'm saying? The thing is....I'm not the only one. There are a lot of people out there who don't go branching out and have strong enough wills that they couldn't be swayed just because they like smoking herb. I've never shot up...but I don't need to test it out to know I don't wanna go there. And no amount of me smoking herb is gonna convince me that being a junkie is the way to go. If it were that easy, there'd be a lot more out there.

Besides, when it comes to people who are just chasing that next high, if not herb, then cough syrup, duster, lysol, whatever. For people who want that high, doesn't matter what it is as long as its getting them fucked up.

And in all honestly, alcohol is waaaaaaay more of a gateway drug than herb--the only thing is...alcohol is legal, social, and widely accepted. So while there are some who feel comfortable to talk about the evils of herb, there is hardly equal criticism for the more dangerous of the two.

[oddfellow]

I think from reading this thread I'm going to try smoking it pure for awhile. At the moment I have been smoking spliffs with filters and its been working really well for me. You don't get the same hit but it still works a treat and doesn't completely fuck you.

The main problem is the cost. I don't know how much it is in America but we get an eighth for £20 and that will last me a week. If I was smoking it pure I think it would vanish as if by magic.

[christophera]

an 8th here is $60

smoking joints is gonna burn through it way faster. if you want it to last, use a small glass pipe.

if you don't believe the hub-bub about cancer prevention and you don't want burned up plant matter in your lungs, you can use a vaporizer.

or make brownies

[oddfellow]

Oh fucking dear.

[silentk]

its not the drug its self that is causing it, its the mentality it puts them in and the people they ascociate with through drug use

its like "hey smoking weed is so good, i think we should try other drugs"
and when your blazing with a coke head and they go "here u want a line?" and you think, hey hes a cool guy, he doesn't seem fucked up, i may aswell try it.

if i had a penny for the amount of times i have turned down weed/coke, i would be, okay not a millionaire, but i would be pretty well off.

Yeah but see....I'm a daily (and multiple times a day) smoker. I have friends who do a lot more than that. They can (and have) come over to my house, with some herb and some yayo, pack a bowl and line up a few lines on my table, with always a few left out for me. Since I don't wanna do it, I don't. My friends can and have gotten shit-faced drunk around me. I can't stand alcohol and no matter what they do or how they act, I stick to my Dr. Pepper. I've never had the urge to do ketamine or mescaline or heroin, for that matter. But I smoke weed. Every day.

You see what I'm saying? The thing is....I'm not the only one. There are a lot of people out there who don't go branching out and have strong enough wills that they couldn't be swayed just because they like smoking herb. I've never shot up...but I don't need to test it out to know I don't wanna go there. And no amount of me smoking herb is gonna convince me that being a junkie is the way to go. If it were that easy, there'd be a lot more out there.

Besides, when it comes to people who are just chasing that next high, if not herb, then cough syrup, duster, lysol, whatever. For people who want that high, doesn't matter what it is as long as its getting them fucked up.

And in all honestly, alcohol is waaaaaaay more of a gateway drug than herb--the only thing is...alcohol is legal, social, and widely accepted. So while there are some who feel comfortable to talk about the evils of herb, there is hardly equal criticism for the more dangerous of the two.

okay, i think i should have made my point clearer from the start.

i have nothing against cannibis per say. i was just trying to share my experience of a couple of mates who have really fucked themselves over very early on in life. im not making a sweeping judgment, saying that anyone who buns will go on to heavier things. just saying that some people i know did end up on heavier stuff through smoking weed. hell, i used to smoke it pretty much daily, but i quit, because for some people it has very little effect, but for others it can have a very big effect. and i'm not into the whole "alcohol is worse than weed" thing, cause i drink a lot so im not really the person to be talking about that.

if you enjoy smoking weed, and it has very little negative effects on you, then by all means continue, but i'm just saying that this is not always the case.

[felixgash]

To be fair, the worst thing about weed is the faux-hippy bullshit spiel Parson is so aptly demonstrating here.

Jeez. Enjoy it and stfu.

[christophera]

[christophera]

I hate weed smoking and pity weed smokers. There's something pathetic about it.

there's something way more pathetic about people who still believe pot is harmful

[bellybelle]

okay, i think i should have made my point clearer from the start.

i have nothing against cannibis per say. i was just trying to share my experience of a couple of mates who have really fucked themselves over very early on in life. im not making a sweeping judgment, saying that anyone who buns will go on to heavier things. just saying that some people i know did end up on heavier stuff through smoking weed. hell, i used to smoke it pretty much daily, but i quit, because for some people it has very little effect, but for others it can have a very big effect. and i'm not into the whole "alcohol is worse than weed" thing, cause i drink a lot so im not really the person to be talking about that.

if you enjoy smoking weed, and it has very little negative effects on you, then by all means continue, but i'm just saying that this is not always the case.

absolutely, and i'm not trying to be combative. i've been enjoyin a bowl over this entire thread . same can be said of alcohol. like, i know it sounds odd, but i'd way rather hang out with a buncha stoners than a buncha drunks. i've never felt like i was in danger around a bunch of stoned guys but drunks guys always make me feel like prey. totally a matter of experience. if people listened to me go on and on about alcohol, i'm sure i'd be just as, if not, more so, vehement about why and how much it sucks and turns people out in the worst ways.

never been a big fan of the sauce. from what i've seen, combative aggression is just scary and i see it a lot more with alcohol. all things in moderation tho. an occasional drink is nice. but if you can't go out on the weekends without having drinks, and you can't hang out with friends without having drinks, and you think it just makes things nicer, but you're not controlled by it, well....you're just a burnout about your alcohol. there is no us v them in this. its the same diff.

[Jubz]

Bob Marley died of lung cancer.

Dead prez don't believe it.

[christophera]

i'm definitely an alcoholic, but at least i don't get mean.

[bellybelle]

i'm definitely an alcoholic, but at least i don't get mean.

Chris the Cuddle Lush Awwwww

[felixgash]

Great response.

I hate weed smoking and pity weed smokers. There's something pathetic about it.

there's something way more pathetic about people who still believe pot is harmful

By quoting me I'm assuming that you're insinuating I am one of them people. Whether I am or not wouldn't take a single thing away from the credence of my opinion on the matter; but, for the record, I do believe weed is "harmful". It's scientifically and biologically harmful to us as humans, and the levels and varieties of chemicals you find in weed these days does nothing but damage to our bodies.

You can't argue against fact. Don't even try, you only look stupid.

[christophera]

you just made yourself look incredibly stupid

[christophera]

probably irreversibly brainwashed based on the fact that you ignore truth in favor of repeating lies

[silentk]

By quoting me I'm assuming that you're insinuating I am one of them people. Whether I am or not wouldn't take a single thing away from the credence of my opinion on the matter; but, for the record, I do believe weed is "harmful". It's scientifically and biologically harmful to us as humans, and the levels and varieties of chemicals you find in weed these days does nothing but damage to our bodies.

You can't argue against fact. Don't even try, you only look stupid.

this, any one who argues that weed is completly harmless is talkin crap. it simply is not true. ANYONE who smokes weed will have some sort of negative effect, no matter how big or small, short or long term. it WILL affect them, FACT.

[christophera]

bullshit

weed makes your brain grow, prevents cancer, makes people happy, and will make you live longer

there's probably more harm for you in eating vegetables that were not grown organically