Is dubstep the last major shift in dance music?

promo · Post by **promo** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:49 am

I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?

seeds - tpb · Post by **seeds - tpb** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 am

dance music will shift forever

one day robots will be making it
lol

the possiblities are endless mate
endless

Pada · Post by **Pada** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:51 am

Promo wrote:I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?

no.

this is just a continuation of the hardcore/jungle/garage/dnb line.

Techno and House also exist you know...

promo · Post by **promo** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:57 am

adisize wrote:
Promo wrote:I suspect like most the reason I got into this music was because of the 'wow this is totally new' factor and the evilness/weightiness of it and that fact that it sounds incredible loud and is fun to dance/groove to. So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
no.

this is just a continuation of the hardcore/jungle/garage/dnb line.

Techno and House also exist you know...

Yeah, I know. I've been listening to electronic music for over 15 years. However dubstep is a major shit ... different rhythms/structure/groove etc. The point is we've had house/acid/ambient techno/techno/hardcore/jungle/gabba/dnb/breakcore etc etc and now when dubstep arrived its a monumental shift so yeah naturally I wonder if it'll ever occur again because its extremely exciting when it does and you can experience it.

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:01 pm

whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.

promo · Post by **promo** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:04 pm

Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.

Good comments. I'd agree with most of that pretty much.

shreddyde · Post by **shreddyde** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:08 pm

predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music

sigha · Post by **sigha** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:06 pm

Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.

This

dub boy · Post by **dub boy** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:09 pm

Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?

LOL

Are you serious?!

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:49 pm

yup, dubstep is it. this is the final frontier! no other strain of music shall ever be made EVER!!! god forbid experimentation!

synthactica records · Post by **synthactica records** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:23 pm

slow down a 170bpm dnb track to its half 85 bpm - what you get is dubstep (ok, there is no pitch correction).
double the speed of a 90bpm dubstep track - what you get is dnb (ok, there is no pitch correction). the structure is the same. vice versa.

if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.

there will be time when Dubstep will burn out just like dnb.

benjybars · Post by **benjybars** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:27 pm

Joe C wrote:whats more exciting is dubsteps openess to merging with other genres due to its very unstrict structure.

some dubstep can be just shuffled minimal techno at 140, other is like Grime composed to be a tune rather than a beat, other is like chopped up to sound shuffly breakbeat kinda stuff, also some is now sounding almost like detroit soul and synthesiser kinda stuff

openess is its key and thats why it will be seen as a big shift.

yep

promo · Post by **promo** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:37 pm

Synthactica Records wrote:if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.

Exactly. Revolutions of this magnitude simply don't come about every 5 secs. People need appreciate that.

promo · Post by **promo** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:45 pm

Dub boy wrote:
Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
LOL

Are you serious?!

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.

Yeah, I damn well hope so but can the same be said in 20/30 or even 100 years time?

kuma · Post by **kuma** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 8:59 pm

Promo wrote:
Dub boy wrote:
Promo wrote: So is this the last seriously major shift in dance music?
LOL

Are you serious?!

Music (be it dance or whatever) will always experience major shifts.... the big wheel never stops turning so to speak.
Yeah, I damn well hope so but can the same be said in 20/30 or even 100 years time?

From musique concrete through to acid house and onto modern sound system culture, nobody was looking 20/30 years down the road.

There will always be shifts as things mutate, people experiment and previous unaffordable technology lands in brand new hands.

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:05 pm

shreddyde wrote:predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:46 am

shreddyde wrote:predicting the future is almost impossible regarding music

Not really IMO. There are certain patterns. You can make predictions and sometimes they come true, sometimes not. With the subject that was raised here I am predicting a sort of "post genre" phase for electronic music. In that scenario Dubstep could very well be the last great genre. Even the way it has grown is kind of a throwback to young genres in the 90's. But I think dubstep has longevity because of the fact that the rules are not strictly written therefore it will go hand in hand with the "post genre" edm.

claw · Post by **claw** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 am

ranchero is the future of dance music

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 12:51 am

claw wrote:ranchero is the future of dance music

???

TBH I am more of an El Camino kind of guy.

eshscramble · Post by **eshscramble** » Tue Aug 26, 2008 1:42 am

Synthactica Records wrote:slow down a 170bpm dnb track to its half 85 bpm - what you get is dubstep (ok, there is no pitch correction).
double the speed of a 90bpm dubstep track - what you get is dnb (ok, there is no pitch correction). the structure is the same. vice versa.

if you look at the electronic music genre evolution at the moment the most exiting things happen in Dubstep.

there will be time when Dubstep will burn out just like dnb.

and all this time my dubstep tracks have been around 140... does that mean it's gonna implode?

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