Sidechaining Technique - Headhunter sidechaining a pad?

snugfelix · Post by **snugfelix** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 10:49 am

On headhunters mix for Radio 1..(clip on his myspace)

http://www.myspace.com/dubstepheadhunter

In the opening tune it kind of sounds as if he has side chained the kick to the pad..Im not sure..

Can someone tell me what this is and how to do it..it sounds bad!

hugh · Post by **hugh** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:02 am

sounds more like the pad has some kind of filter automation and delay going on to me. Not really sure what you are talking about though so i can't say for sure

spire · Post by **spire** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:10 am

sounds like sidechaining to me. just google it, its simple enough to read about and understand.

serox · Post by **serox** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:16 am

I cannot hear what your on about but I am listening on headphones.

Sounds like a standard pad with rev/del. Maybe its the way the notes have been written?

Disco Nutter · Post by **Disco Nutter** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:17 am

Sidechaining a pad is no different than sidechaining a bassline.

Just play around with settings.

cryptic · Post by **cryptic** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:49 am

What daw are you using? Sidechaining compresion is just praitaccly automition on the bassline volume.

martello · Post by **martello** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:03 pm

Sidechaining a pad is quite usual, nothing special. I think...

black lotus · Post by **black lotus** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:48 pm

you can do this in reason by connecting a single hit from redrum to something like subtractor's gate in with a pad patch..

cool trick, but not even necessary if you just copy/print some midi notes on the piano roll..

snugfelix · Post by **snugfelix** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:47 pm

alvin18 wrote:Sidechaining a pad is quite usual, nothing special. I think...

profound. thank you for your help.

I know how to side chain in Reason, but what I was doing wasnt giving me the same kind of results as what was in that tune, so i think it might be filter automation...

spire · Post by **spire** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:02 pm

snugfelix wrote:
alvin18 wrote:Sidechaining a pad is quite usual, nothing special. I think...
profound. thank you for your help.

I know how to side chain in Reason, but what I was doing wasnt giving me the same kind of results as what was in that tune, so i think it might be filter automation...

i assume youve already adjusted the attack and release? i dont know what all youve tried, but if you havnt played with the release try that.

martello · Post by **martello** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:39 pm

snugfelix wrote:
alvin18 wrote:Sidechaining a pad is quite usual, nothing special. I think...
profound. thank you for your help.

I know how to side chain in Reason, but what I was doing wasnt giving me the same kind of results as what was in that tune, so i think it might be filter automation...

Sorry

Didn't read through your post, see now there is a queastionmark

Peace

eshscramble · Post by **eshscramble** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:18 am

this is a bit excessive to be actual sidechaining if you ask me.

looks like an LFO linked to amplitude in the synth, or a volume automation effect. i know cubase has a VST called 'chopper' that produces similar results... it can automate volume in a particular frequency and wave shape.

i'm sure there are some free vst's out there that can do the same.

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:51 am

there are 2 things going on here:

the pad sounds like it is retriggering every 2 bars, and there is a HPF with a descending cutoff each time. it also sounds like there's some sort of white noise component in the patch.

the pad is also being side-chained off the kick drum, with a relatively long release, i'd guess around 200 - 250ms.

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:02 am

here's my rough approximation. this is just a preset off my novation synth, a kick, and a compressor

http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1swcf

snugfelix · Post by **snugfelix** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:28 am

Big up eshscramble and setspeed! great knowledge

snugfelix · Post by **snugfelix** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:30 am

setspeed wrote:here's my rough approximation. this is just a preset off my novation synth, a kick, and a compressor

http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1swcf

that is pretty much exactly what i was after

big up

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:36 am

snugfelix wrote:
setspeed wrote:here's my rough approximation. this is just a preset off my novation synth, a kick, and a compressor

http://www.sendspace.com/file/e1swcf
that is pretty much exactly what i was after

big up

glad to be of help

Sidechaining Technique - Headhunter sidechaining a pad?

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