Drum & Bass, death of

[dubzie]

I hear u loud and clear. Try some Mutated forms tunes. Bad technology is pretty sweet. I think so anyway.

[gwa]

THIS IS THE REASON WHY DRUM AND BASS IS DEAD. FUCKING STUPID DAFT stnuc DOWN UNDER

[phlayedalive]

people always expect huge revolution...it happen sometimes but most of the time the change are very little and subtile...
By now there is some minimal tune (like noisia - diplodocus, or Lynx - disco dodo and of course instra:mental) that come after years of huge maximal stuff...
I think most of the change will be pieces by pieces and in the end in about 5 years dnb will have totally change (but most of the producers will still copycat of course : it's dance music !!!)


The whole problem i thing : it's that dnb used to be a strategy : you take sliced breakbeat and you put everything you want on it... now it perhaps a little bit narrow minded in subgenre style... but in the end it's still the better dance music to party (with breakcore and dubstep)...

I think the problem is to stop moaning on pseudoglorious past and stuff... be the change that you wanna hear imo !!!

[moujah]

well, the new London Elektricity album shows it's definitely not dead. and so does everyone who can just slow down a bit and leave some space in the music. I really like many tunes being produced nowadays.

[bagelator]

tasha july 08 mix.

this is "proper fookin eavy"

1. Nymfo - Paperboy - Dub
2. Alix Perez - Never Believe - Bassbin Dub
3. D Bridge - Creatures of Habit - Exit
4. Instra:mental – Rogue – Darkestral
5. Icicle – Lost Hours – Critical
6. Matrix & Fierce ft. Rymetime – Light Sleeper – C4C Ltd
7. Calibre – TV On – Signature
8. Jonny L – Intasound – XL Recordings
9. Lenzman, Icicle, Jubei & Switch – Untitled – Dub
10. Marcus Intalex & ST Files – Nightfall – Renegade Hardware
11. Alix Perez – Inferno – Soul:R
12. D Bridge – Mourning Dawn – Exit
13. Hades – The Break – 36th Chamber
14. Icicle – Broken Fingers – Xtinction Agenda
15. Calibre – Lo Note – Signature
16. System, Dissect & Bio-Method – Pulverise – Dub
17. Gremlinz – Untitled – Dub
18. Loxy&Dylan – Nightmare (Digital Rmx) – Renegade Hardware
19. Calibre – Into the groove – Signature


Check the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?esfg3twxinn

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[blumarten]

There's a quote by one of the constituent parts of Blu Mar Ten (leo i think) thats pretty pertinent to this thread: Its poignant for me as when i was younger i was totally caught up in DnB and the output of producers like Klute, dev paradox & nucleus, Danny breaks, Tony Justice, Banaczech, Pieter K. Leon Mar, T-Power, Photek etc etc. I loved Cert.18, Reinforced, metalheadz, movin shadow, etc.

Im not saying the following is hugely significant (or maybe it is?), it just made me...feel good. I thought I'd share, & I appreciate Blu Mar Ten sharing their thoughts. & I'd appreciate anyone who cares enough to read all this to share theirs.

respect out to chris & leo, you've always inspired me & your music always moved me beyond words

thanks ocr - it was me (chris) who wrote that.

people always expect huge revolution...it happen sometimes but most of the time the change are very little and subtile...
By now there is some minimal tune (like noisia - diplodocus, or Lynx - disco dodo and of course instra:mental) that come after years of huge maximal stuff...
I think most of the change will be pieces by pieces and in the end in about 5 years dnb will have totally change (but most of the producers will still copycat of course : it's dance music !!!)

The whole problem i thing : it's that dnb used to be a strategy : you take sliced breakbeat and you put everything you want on it... now it perhaps a little bit narrow minded in subgenre style... but in the end it's still the better dance music to party (with breakcore and dubstep)...

I think the problem is to stop moaning on pseudoglorious past and stuff... be the change that you wanna hear imo !!!

can't agree with this post ^ more. I think dubstep has done a great job of reintroducing the idea of space, and the value of silence into stuff like d&b and we're starting to see a gradual pay-off.

And just for the record, that blogpost was nothing more than a happy, excited expression of the fact that lots of different things are happening in d&b - it's not some stupid manifesto or anything

[spk]

18. Loxy&Dylan – Nightmare (Digital Rmx) – Renegade Hardware

classic tune...

OT

dnb was the first electronic music that really kicked me in the nuts. started DJing because of it. but it became more and more boring to me because (in germany) the DJs kept playing the same styles (not just jumpup or clownstep) and did not play the harder styles that I prefer.
the whole dnb scene is lacking of good new music that's fitting my personal taste (except some offkey or related stuff). I don't think that the quality level is (getting) so low how everybody keeps saying these days...

it's just the whole music (and the people listening to it...) doesn't fit my taste the way it did 5 years ago...

[seckle]

There's a quote by one of the constituent parts of Blu Mar Ten (leo i think) thats pretty pertinent to this thread: Its poignant for me as when i was younger i was totally caught up in DnB and the output of producers like Klute, dev paradox & nucleus, Danny breaks, Tony Justice, Banaczech, Pieter K. Leon Mar, T-Power, Photek etc etc. I loved Cert.18, Reinforced, metalheadz, movin shadow, etc.

Im not saying the following is hugely significant (or maybe it is?), it just made me...feel good. I thought I'd share, & I appreciate Blu Mar Ten sharing their thoughts. & I'd appreciate anyone who cares enough to read all this to share theirs.

respect out to chris & leo, you've always inspired me & your music always moved me beyond words

thanks ocr - it was me (chris) who wrote that.

people always expect huge revolution...it happen sometimes but most of the time the change are very little and subtile...
By now there is some minimal tune (like noisia - diplodocus, or Lynx - disco dodo and of course instra:mental) that come after years of huge maximal stuff...
I think most of the change will be pieces by pieces and in the end in about 5 years dnb will have totally change (but most of the producers will still copycat of course : it's dance music !!!)

The whole problem i thing : it's that dnb used to be a strategy : you take sliced breakbeat and you put everything you want on it... now it perhaps a little bit narrow minded in subgenre style... but in the end it's still the better dance music to party (with breakcore and dubstep)...

I think the problem is to stop moaning on pseudoglorious past and stuff... be the change that you wanna hear imo !!!

can't agree with this post ^ more. I think dubstep has done a great job of reintroducing the idea of space, and the value of silence into stuff like d&b and we're starting to see a gradual pay-off.

And just for the record, that blogpost was nothing more than a happy, excited expression of the fact that lots of different things are happening in d&b - it's not some stupid manifesto or anything

its great to see one of the handful of producers i really rate, not have any bitterness about the dubstep sound. i have a lot of your tunes in my crates, and they are close to my chest too. welcome

it also really kills me inside a little to listen to the top ten dnb records on redeye's chart for example, and to see what the general public is buying and therefore supporting. some of those records on that chart are really musically stupid....in the sense that you can expect every single thing about to happen in them. you know...ok..here's the incoming drop...here's the drop out...here's the 2nd drop....here's the outro.

if you listen to no u turn, cert 18, early moving shadow, early metalheadz, 31 records or early dillinja it was fucking masterful music, where you didn't have any idea what was around the corner in a tune. complete mindfuck business.

everytime i talk to someone really bitter about dubstep, especially if they're from the dnb scene as of late, i always refer to two of my all time favorite jungle records, in a sort of homage to the most incredible music on the planet at one time. these tunes still give me very vivid flashbacks and memories. somewhere along the way it got lost, and it really pains me to say that.

arcon 2 " the beckoning" circa 1997
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoYKvnpvubc

peshay "the nocturnal" circa 1996
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg5IHudKBKg

^^out to jungle music, my old friend, when it was still fucking thunderous, unpredictable and groundbreaking.

a friend and i were reminiscing recently about old jungle, and we came up with a theory that the moment jungle stopped sampling sax lines and flutes, it all went to shit. lol.

bring back the sax lines!!

[blumarten]

nice one seckle

if you haven't already bumped into them, take a minute to listen to:

Randomer - http://www.myspace.com/randomerdnb
Instra:mental - http://www.myspace.com/instramentaluk
martsman - http://www.myspace.com/martsman
D Bridge - http://www.myspace.com/exitrecords

all doing really interesting stuff with d&b at the moment

(apologies if you're all up to speed with this lot. i have no idea who's into what anymore )

[seckle]

nice one seckle

if you haven't already bumped into them, take a minute to listen to:

Randomer - http://www.myspace.com/randomerdnb
Instra:mental - http://www.myspace.com/instramentaluk
martsman - http://www.myspace.com/martsman
D Bridge - http://www.myspace.com/exitrecords

all doing really interesting stuff with d&b at the moment

(apologies if you're all up to speed with this lot. i have no idea who's into what anymore )

big up!!!

very very eagerly awaiting d bridge's stuff. )eib( !!!!!! back when it was really )eib(...ie back when it had darren and maldini in the lineup.

[blumarten]

yeah - look out for a track of his doing the rounds at the moment called 'wicked ways'

so so good

[seckle]

yeah - look out for a track of his doing the rounds at the moment called 'wicked ways'

so so good

will do !!!!! i keep an ear out for your stuff too.

[werd2jah]

dc downloads, everything you could ever want, and more

DC++? IM ON IT! LOOK OUT FOR "WERD2JAH" LURKIN ON SOME OF THE HUBS AROUND DA PLACE!!

[blumarten]

yeah - look out for a track of his doing the rounds at the moment called 'wicked ways'

so so good

no - it's called 'wonder why'. what the fuck is wrong with me

[darkmatteruk]

dc downloads, everything you could ever want, and more

DC++? IM ON IT! LOOK OUT FOR "WERD2JAH" LURKIN ON SOME OF THE HUBS AROUND DA PLACE!!

yea DC++, will keep an eye out for you on there, im not in as many hubs as i was, few probs at mo, safe

__________
http://www.virb.com/darkmatterUK

[prisoner]

the new Exit Apptitude Vol 4 release is really freaking good.

Instra:mental & Nico.



got my copy on the way.

St Files just put out his first solo release in like....ermm....over a decade I think. new e.p. is on Soul:r pretty good stuff.

[blumarten]

the new Exit Apptitude Vol 4 release is really freaking good.

Instra:mental & Nico.



got my copy on the way.

yeah - i just spent £20 on that

[nerow]

Drum and Bass is nowhere near dying