Scratching DJ in dubstep...?? POLL ADDED!

[diss]

There is no such thig as how scratching sounds. Scratching is infinite. People are basing there oppinions on what they consider scractching which is dated by years now. Just cause you've seen Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff and Cash Money does not mean that that is all there is to scratching. I ain't knocking soloing. I love it and all these DJ's but there are people doing new things with scratching and can fit it to any peice of music. Scratching can be a guitar cut up with a wah wah pedal to sound like a guitar being played. Or a keyboard piece or a flute or anything.
There are people who can scratch drums so tightly you don't even know it's scratched. It's a way to give a programmed studio drum sound but with a live human feel which can not be truly created with a sampler.
I recon I could post music by certain people you would all love and have no idea that it was totally created from Scratching.

[dynamixuk]

There is no such thig as how scratching sounds. Scratching is infinite. People are basing there oppinions on what they consider scractching which is dated by years now. Just cause you've seen Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff and Cash Money does not mean that that is all there is to scratching. I ain't knocking soloing. I love it and all these DJ's but there are people doing new things with scratching and can fit it to any peice of music. Scratching can be a guitar cut up with a wah wah pedal to sound like a guitar being played. Or a keyboard piece or a flute or anything.
There are people who can scratch drums so tightly you don't even know it's scratched. It's a way to give a programmed studio drum sound but with a live human feel which can not be truly created with a sampler.
I recon I could post music by certain people you would all love and have no idea that it was totally created from Scratching.

aye. i've been thinkin of burning alot of track parts down to cd and remakin a dubstep tune out of scratching, the technique is to not be all out, to be subtle, like what ned hodgins and gunkhole are doin, even better newcastle's Nozl. i've used a few dubstep tunes in dmc routines ect and they go down well and it sounds dope, if u check out early isp stuff, there cuttin over 70 bpm bass heavy bounce breaks, 70 bpm (or 140) is the avrage speed of most stuff being made right now so there is no reason why it cant work. just depends on the person doing it and there technique.


one of them dmc style sets is on myspace if u want to check it for ya heed. (onextramashup)

peace


scratchings mint i love it

orbit
hydroplane
chirpflare's for the win

[alex bk-bk]

agreed, but but who's doin that live in dubstep sets??

[7 below]

I think it can work in almost any format as long as it's done artistically and "with" the music vs. "against" the music. Scratching because you can scratch vs. scratching because it FITS with the music the mix are two totally separate things. If the specific scratch adds to the music, I'm all for it, even in the mix. It just depends on how it's done.

I've yet to hear it really well done over dubstep, but over grime instrumentals, it can sound nice. I think some DJs just carry things a bit to far and make scratching the focus and that takes away from the music / the mix.

It should be like MCing - complementary. Not overwhelming.

There is no such thig as how scratching sounds. Scratching is infinite. People are basing there oppinions on what they consider scractching which is dated by years now. Just cause you've seen Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff and Cash Money does not mean that that is all there is to scratching. I ain't knocking soloing. I love it and all these DJ's but there are people doing new things with scratching and can fit it to any peice of music. Scratching can be a guitar cut up with a wah wah pedal to sound like a guitar being played. Or a keyboard piece or a flute or anything.
There are people who can scratch drums so tightly you don't even know it's scratched. It's a way to give a programmed studio drum sound but with a live human feel which can not be truly created with a sampler.
I recon I could post music by certain people you would all love and have no idea that it was totally created from Scratching.

What they said. Been out of it for a while but my favourite scratch piece has got to be drunk trumpet by Kid Koala - the live version on the Zen 10 year CD beats the album version. Ace live (proper) too. Scratching doesn't have to be samey, but samey scratching WILL sound out of place on deep deep dub.

[dynamixuk]

agreed, but but who's doin that live in dubstep sets??

watch out!!

[diss]

There is no such thig as how scratching sounds. Scratching is infinite. People are basing there oppinions on what they consider scractching which is dated by years now. Just cause you've seen Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff and Cash Money does not mean that that is all there is to scratching. I ain't knocking soloing. I love it and all these DJ's but there are people doing new things with scratching and can fit it to any peice of music. Scratching can be a guitar cut up with a wah wah pedal to sound like a guitar being played. Or a keyboard piece or a flute or anything.
There are people who can scratch drums so tightly you don't even know it's scratched. It's a way to give a programmed studio drum sound but with a live human feel which can not be truly created with a sampler.
I recon I could post music by certain people you would all love and have no idea that it was totally created from Scratching.

aye. i've been thinkin of burning alot of track parts down to cd and remakin a dubstep tune out of scratching, the technique is to not be all out, to be subtle, like what ned hodgins and gunkhole are doin, even better newcastle's Nozl. i've used a few dubstep tunes in dmc routines ect and they go down well and it sounds dope, if u check out early isp stuff, there cuttin over 70 bpm bass heavy bounce breaks, 70 bpm (or 140) is the avrage speed of most stuff being made right now so there is no reason why it cant work. just depends on the person doing it and there technique.


one of them dmc style sets is on myspace if u want to check it for ya heed. (onextramashup)

peace


scratchings mint i love it

orbit
hydroplane
chirpflare's for the win

Nozl are the best Scratch Producers period.

You could post something like Stix and Stones and everyone here would love it and probs have no idea what so ever that any of it is scratched let alone the whole thing.

[dynamixuk]

im guess in i know you diss


aye nozl are heavy..look out for lone wolf too im sure he's gonna be HUGE

[press]

ok so i just started the first mix from the lexxus and wow that first mix is amazing!!

[fubar]

scratching bass tipper style

[forensix (mcr)]

im gonna get slated but: please no scratch in dubstep if i wanted to hear scratching id listen to hiphop

dont ruin my listening experience with your wicky wicky

[brklss]

im gonna get slated but: please no scratch in dubstep if i wanted to hear scratching id listen to hiphop

dont ruin my listening experience with your wicky wicky

Agreed

[press]

that mix was hot shit very subtle not over the top scratching and great mixes ! radness Lexxus !!

[drbluebeat]

The Lexxus
"That Last Dubstep's A Doozzee!"

I judge on merit, not a principle, and that mix above (complete with embedded album art for your vPod), and the scratching in it, is good styles.

I guess my background is different, I was on the post-acid "club" scene tip not the post-rave DnB/Garage scene and we had very little scatching, if any after Carl Cox left to join the "rave" scene c1989 (before he went back c1992) up until the big/breakbeat era and Scratch Perverts et al so I haven't been over cooked by it.

It's a personal taste tho surely? Like some ppl liking MC's on Dubstep - same as with scratching, if its good it's good shouldn't be, er, de rigeur!

Lexxus - more of your mixes please, complete with scratching!

/two-pennorth-worth

[drbluebeat]

that mix was hot shit very subtle not over the top scratching and great mixes ! radness Lexxus !!

[mizz]

im gonna get slated but: please no scratch in dubstep if i wanted to hear scratching id listen to hiphop

dont ruin my listening experience with your wicky wicky

Ya, the problem is that too many people understand scratching as "wicky wicky", you should treat scratching as a tool, an instrument not as a "wicky wicky"....

with respect forensix

[signus]

I was talking to my mate about this the other night and I didn't think it would sound very good but he did. Gonna check out some of these mixes and see what i think.

[forensix (mcr)]

scratching is a tool used by tools jokes

no offence taken
i just dont enjoy it, not my cup of tea

[mizz]

i'm just inspired by my scratching lessons,
and think that it can really change the posibilities of DJs in dubstep mixes.
and if you add some delays, and reverbs with that.....man, definitely you can change the sound in the right way...

[spaceboy]

my bredrin deekline is one who brought the scratch to UK garage back in the day and then consequently breaks, what he got into later on.

in breaks there is a big scratch vibe.

i come from the andy c school of thought. mix n blen all the way.

[mizz]

I scratch live on almost all my mixes...here's a couple:

The Lexxus @ Underground Kingdom #11
Recorded @ Turntablaze Studiophile, Broadcasted on Ombilikal Radio c/o Mr. Orange June 10th, 2006
1. Through My Eyes (Right Now) – Swiftee – Cutting Edge
2. Lightning – Skream – Tempa
3. The Knowledge (Vex’d Remix) – Toasty – Hot Flush
4. Unknown Title – F1 – Southside Dubstars
5. Thank You – Scuba – Hot Flush
6. War Dub – DJ Pinch & P Dutty – Tectonic
7. Killamanjaro – Search & Destroy – Destructive
8. The Goat Stare – Loefah – DMZ
9. Stargate 92 (Remix) – Mark One – Storming
10. Candyfloss (Loefah Remix) – Search & Destroy – Hot Flush
11. 28g – Loefah & Skream – Tectonic
12. Kik Daan Ya Door – DJ Narrows (Dub Child Rmx) – Storming
13. Bigger Times – Darqwan – Storming
14. Desperate Measures – Search&Destroy – Storming
15. Mood Dub – Coki – DMZ
16. Tinji – Slaughter Mob – Boka
17. Smiley Face – Skream – Tempa
18. Officer – Coki – DMZ
Scratch
19. Midnight Request Line – Skream – Tempa
Scratch
20. Degrees – D1 – Tempa
21. Rise Of The Machines – Mark One – Southside Dubstars
22. Root – Loefah – DMZ
23. Voodoo People – Prodigy (DJ Wonder Rmx) – XL

The Lexxus
"That Last Dubstep's A Doozzee!"
Recorded at Turntablaze Studiophile, September 2nd, 2005.
1. snatch by big casino on kkg
2. slow down by virus syndicate on planet-mu
3. first bite by jugglin jawz on dirtstyle
4.the greatest by mark one on boka
5. empire by distance on hot flush
6. fat larry's skank by benny ill, kode 9, & the culprit on tempa
7.come let me know by rodney p and freak nasty on skint
8. devil boy by mark one on planet-mu
9. angry by skream on ital
10.swarm by distance on destructive
11. toxic by second to none on a.r.m.y.
12. mark of the beast by search and destroy on combat wax
13. cha ching by lady sovereign on casual
14. let go by mutiny on cyberfunk
15. stand up tall by dizzy rascal on xl
16. take it personal by toasty on hot flush
17. the knowledge by toasty on hot flush
18. gotcha refix by dr.venom (plasticman orig) on a.r.m.y.
19. girls by dizzy rascal feat. marga man on xl
20. too hot by toasty boy on storming
21. 1 on 1 by distance on hot flush
22. bucky done gun by m.i.a. (divinche remix) on xl
23. angel by toasty on hot flush
24. lion v.i.p. by vex'd on planet-mu
25. space hopper by mark one on a.r.m.y.
26. solid snake by morph on a.r.m.y.
27. camel toe by hawerchuk on planet-mu
28. industrial graft by plasticman on rephlex
29. big bass by second to none on a.r.m.y.
30. angels by vex'd on planet-mu
31. take me by dubchild on storming
32. statik by high rankin & a.k.a. on molten vinyl
33. secret weapon by search and destroy on destructive
34. thunder by vex'd on planet-mu
35. jigga up (ring the alarm) by zed bias feat. juiceman simba (dj hype remix) on sidestepper
36. tonka by jammin (menta remix) on bingo
37. reclaim the streets by shut up dance dj hype on s.u.a.d.
38. pussy track remix by dj hype on naughty
39. rubba by menta on sounds of da future
40. corner by skinnz on destructive.

on dl