Scratching DJ in dubstep...?? POLL ADDED!

necta selecta · Post by **necta selecta** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 8:35 pm

like bagelator, i was thinking about this a while ago. i never heard any scratching in dubstep exept once when sckream did a tiny bit as part of the pull up, keeping the beat going by scratching the bass drum allowing the mc to carry on the flow - it was great until the needle jumped - but then it just meant rewind anyway so it was fine.

I should listen to the mix before passing judgement though but by the sound of the reactions you've probably done it really tastefully

As an aside i don't like dj hype's scratching at all.

alex bk-bk · Post by **alex bk-bk** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:00 pm

me neither

spaceboy · Post by **spaceboy** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:02 pm

hype used to be ruff...but now he's just doing it coz its his trademark.

u can't knock hype in 94/95/96 - he along with randall were the daddies of djing.

chef · Post by **chef** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:34 pm

Hijak's one of the best at scratching out of the all the Croydon crew.

I scratch when I do Hip Hop and Bahment sets but it don't sound as good..

purecain · Post by **purecain** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:39 pm

its all dj skills man, every good dj should know about record manipulation. you can get some mad sounds from scratching but i dont mean the basic scratch every one thinks of, its the more advanced scratches that work. i personally find scratching to dubstep difficult because your mind is juggelin the two rydem's all the time. you ether have to scratch fast or really slow. it takes alot of prctice to find scratches that work aswell. i was surprised how some of my favourite samples sounded shit when scratched over dubstep so you need to be carefull which ones you select. i think a reverb unit hooked up to the mixer works well..... poeples should definatly experiment cos thats a crowd pleaser.

doctorkinetic · Post by **doctorkinetic** » Wed Aug 09, 2006 10:50 pm

All about DJ SY and his mad bastard bleep skratch attacks- pure entertainment

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:03 am

forensix (mcr) wrote:im gonna get slated but: please no scratch in dubstep if i wanted to hear scratching id listen to hiphop

dont ruin my listening experience with your wicky wicky

UFO over easy wrote:No... I've never felt scratching was worthwhile, in any genre of music. Including hip hop.

What's the point?

Impressive as it might be, it's about the tunes, not technical skill.

Maybe I just don't get it.

Frankly scratching belongs in hip hop. I know I'm going to get stick for this, but it sounds generally rubbish in anything else.

All skill, no sound.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:04 am

Joseph-J wrote:
Frankly scratching belongs in hip hop. I know I'm going to get stick for this, but it sounds generally rubbish in anything else.

All skill, no sound.

DeepThought · Post by **DeepThought** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 11:10 am

i think that if the beats were juggled well, and i do mean real well, then itd sound phat but raggin a load of samples over the top of the tunes is simply gash

musty dust · Post by **musty dust** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:13 pm

mushug wrote:http://www.myspace.com/djsnafu

this man is heavy

respect to the snafu!!!!

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:13 pm

DeepThought wrote:i think that if the beats were juggled well, and i do mean real well, then itd sound phat but raggin a load of samples over the top of the tunes is simply gash

Refer back to your 1995 DMC video for evidence.

Ha ha ha.

tronman · Post by **tronman** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:23 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYrrbB9QQ4

dirty skills

DeepThought · Post by **DeepThought** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:09 pm

Joseph-J wrote:Refer back to your 1995 DMC video for evidence.
Ha ha ha.

lol! 'kin dj nike.. what a fuckin cock!

tronman wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adYrrbB9QQ4

dirty skills

see now THATS what im talkin about!

captain easychord · Post by **captain easychord** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:31 pm

i dunno about scratching on dubstep, it's too deep sounding i reckon.

signus · Post by **signus** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:52 pm

Checked out the first of those mixes and doesn't sound as bad as I expected it to. Although I think it would annoy me if I was at a night and some one was scratching over it.

musty dust · Post by **musty dust** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:38 pm

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... 344953&n=2

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... 004547&n=2

djsnafu...

dubliss · Post by **dubliss** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:59 pm

Gotta say check out "Hijak" once he starts playing out more regulary. One of the most respected DJ's in Londons uderground scene....full stop.

Mixing and scratching skills are second to none, along with a great ability to build a set up to a bit of a climax. Personally i think bringing something different "djing wise" to any kind of music only helps it grow.

Big up the Hijak..............

Dubliss

necta selecta · Post by **necta selecta** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:20 pm

DoctorKinetic wrote

All about DJ SY and his mad bastard bleep skratch attacks- pure entertainment

Dun Know...I was thinking about giving props to Sy on this thread earlier today and you beat me to it. I used to be obsessed with it.

He used to do mad scratching when there was just one record playing (but in a good way.) That 92 rave tune dance conspiracy by bass construction (i think) when the vocal dropped ("ay-yay-yaaay") he'd just reach over and casually do four bars of mental scratching with the "ay" before letting it drop. Must've taken balls as he would've been f*cked if the needle skipped - it never did though!

Anyone else on here remember this ?

nozl · Post by **nozl** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:13 pm

I can't help but say something on 'scratching'. Not that it's going to be everyones cup of tea, but I just think, that most people's perceptions of 'scratching' in a 'musical' form maybe (and no offence intenteded to the following, just pointing out a style in the music) based on that of, for example, T-Rock, dj Noise, dj Yoda etc... Where it's full of words and phrases cut up over mostly hip hop beats. Some of the best artists doing scratch 'music' I reckon I can count on one hand, maybe two, so it's not necessarily a massive market. Maybe this is due to having to learn the skill, before learning to manipulate the sound.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but when opinions are based on not fully understanding a subject, they can be blurred and misleading. The, all skill no sound, comments I fully disagree with, simply because it depends who is doing the tracks. Mike Boo, Excess, Ricci Rucker, 2Tall to name a few, have some wonderful tunes, and are most definately based on rich soundscapes, and melodies.

As long it's performed well, and in the right situations, 'scratching' can adapted to any type of scenario. Scratching doesn't have to be blazing crabs over a fresh sample over a moody dubstep track. (That could well be turd.... again depending on who's doing the cuts!). The sample could be a violin and a cello taken from an old record, and played with a minimal amount of back or forward scapes, making it almost a 'normal' sample, to give the track more life. Both instances are scratching, but with completely different outcomes.

Scratching has come way beyond just cutting one or two words over a hip hop track.

Although scratch nerds like Rich and myself still love to freestyle over a nice scratch beat now and then.

joseph-j · Post by **joseph-j** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 9:37 am

NozL wrote:As long it's performed well, and in the right situations, 'scratching' can adapted to any type of scenario.

Just because somethings done well, doesn't mean you should put it on everything you listen to.

I like marmite. Do I put marmite on everything I eat? No, cause it would taste shit.

I'm sure if opera singing is done well, it sounds terrific. Why not layer that over the top as well? And an accordian? Where do you stop???

Problem is, scratching has the same limp connotations as stuff like breakdancing. I'm sure the people who do it do it very well, but it all seems a *tad* contrived from where I'm standing.

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