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kaini · Post by **kaini** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:06 pm

basically some guy in eastern europe is rewriting/modifying loads of electronic music articles based on some book he has. he previously tried to write articles on 'thugstep' and 'nintendub'. sigh.

dubstep. new dark swing lol. reverting this bollocks a couple of times a day.

2-step garage.

new dark swing aka dark 2-step, apparently the root of all dubstep

and bassline house

i've tried to talk to him, he doesn't respond. i've tried to compromise by including his 'dark 2-step' in the infobox. this is doing my head in and i have no doubt other wiki editors heads in too cos he's changing looooads of articles.

kaini · Post by **kaini** » Sun Oct 12, 2008 11:07 pm

i just wanted to have a moan really.

spiderman · Post by **spiderman** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:01 am

lol does it really matter?

kaini · Post by **kaini** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:11 am

well, i'm the guy who generally maintains the article, so yes, it does

would you like interested parties to learn that dubstep was inspired by craig david? (extreme example, i know

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ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:17 am

Craig David? You mean the guy who busts one lyric and thats "Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, yeah" and has like ONE decent song ?

Craig David did nothing for Dubstep.

Pistonsbeneath · Post by **Pistonsbeneath** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:20 am

kaini wrote:well, i'm the guy who generally maintains the article, so yes, it does

would you like interested parties to learn that dubstep was inspired by craig david? (extreme example, i know )

Craig David is dubstep

and all other music for that matter

he is the greatest musician who ever lived

If he spent five minutes on a dubstep track it would be the best track yet & ever

low life · Post by **low life** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:40 am

PROPER BO

pacomari · Post by **pacomari** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:27 am

Whit's sadder?

Doing the editing or caring about the editing?

I'll leave that one to the philosophers...

ory · Post by **ory** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:33 am

Where does he say Craig David in particular has anything to do with dubstep?

And what exactly is it you disagree with?

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:51 am

everyone knows to take what u read off wikipedia with a pinch of salt anyway.

and most of it is just opinion, lol

colz · Post by **colz** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:06 pm

I dunno...that halfstep break in the chorus of 'rewind' always used to get my juices a 'flowin.

funky stanton · Post by **funky stanton** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:15 pm

Colz wrote:I dunno...that halfstep break in the chorus of 'rewind' always used to get my juices a 'flowin.

Rewind is a tune, don't let anyone tell you different. Also Loefah isn't really Loefah, it's Craig David in a Loefah suit.

Who seek knowledge, them wisdom increase.

blackdown · Post by **blackdown** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:32 pm

hey kaini

this seems a little extreme and i'll stay out of the formalities of the wiki inner workings: that's your domain. but i can say this on the musical angle.

whenever one new genre evolves out of another, as dubstep did out of UK garage/2step, there's a period when something new is definitely going on but it's unclear what one name will be used for it.

"nu dark swing" was one such term proposed by kode9 in 2000/01 ish yet it didn't go on to be the final genre name. while it does have resonances with the early era of dubstep (swing connects it back to 2step garage), it isn't a separate genre to dubstep.

that help at all?

geiom · Post by **geiom** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:59 pm

Ashley wrote:Craig David? You mean the guy who busts one lyric and thats "Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, yeah" and has like ONE decent song ?

Craig David did nothing for Dubstep.

no, not directly. and i don't think he cared too much about 2 step either, that was down to his producers. but the track was massive beyond belief and surely had an effect on the ears of the world....and dubstep is a distant (now very distant) relative of that style...

colz · Post by **colz** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:01 pm

geiom wrote: no, not directly. and i don't think he cared too much about 2 step either, that was down to his producers. but the track was massive beyond belief and surely had an effect on the ears of the world....and dubstep is a distant (now very distant) relative of that style...

agreed

joe muggs · Post by **joe muggs** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:04 pm

djake wrote:everyone knows to take what u read off wikipedia with a pinch of salt anyway.

and most of it is just opinion, lol

Sadly that just aint true. From bitter experience I've seen how many mainstream articles are written from Wikipedia "research", and once a fact is out there it's really difficult to persuade people that it's not "fact". In general this may not be a great problem but what if some vindictive Wiki edit about you got quoted in an internationally-read newspaper? Would you be happy with that?

juliun_c90 · Post by **juliun_c90** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:39 pm

classification of styles and where they sit in an overall musical taxonomy is a tricky business, as is the process of 'genrification'. it's all a bit weird and subjective.

i've never read a wiki article on e.g. techno, dubstep, hip hop etc.
sometimes that sort of writing does attempt a level of objective definition that's too narrow/flawed/subjective/too vague/just not possible.

erm, not really sure what my point is here...

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:45 pm

pacomari wrote:Whit's sadder?

Doing the editing or caring about the editing?

I'll leave that one to the philosophers...

Regardless of what you think, someone has taken the time to update and maintain probably the first place anyone who is new to Dubstep comes across.

I think your poor attempt at spelling is "sadder". How can you spell "what's" wrong when the 'a' and the 'i' are at opposite ends of the keyboard?

clarkycatdealer · Post by **clarkycatdealer** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:02 pm

look i like craig david, does that mean my music is not dubstep? if so , good.

stanton · Post by **stanton** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:07 pm

Ashley wrote:
pacomari wrote:Whit's sadder?

Doing the editing or caring about the editing?

I'll leave that one to the philosophers...
Regardless of what you think, someone has taken the time to update and maintain probably the first place anyone who is new to Dubstep comes across.

I think your poor attempt at spelling is "sadder". How can you spell "what's" wrong when the 'a' and the 'i' are at opposite ends of the keyboard?

It's not a mistake, the man is from Glasgow. Bo.

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