Inexperienced MCs trashing dubstep nights

threnody · Post by **threnody** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:37 am

I'm really feeling SLT and what they bring to a night. SLT have been on it since the beginning..anyone care to dust down their copies of Grime 1? They were on it long before then and completely tore up the end at the grime launch night alongside the mighty Rogue Star.

wafel · Post by **wafel** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:56 am

KION wrote:A Master of Ceremonies *was* a host the last time I checked. And as for the thread title - what an uninformed load of bollocks. You don't like MC's. Fair enough. But inexperienced? What a joke.

Would you hate MC's in reggae sound clashes too? I'm making an assumption, but do you come from a techno background previously?... I didn't catch Mala's set but on the others I thought they hyped the place up properly.

Thread title: Inexperienced was possibly the wrong adjective - It was a long weekend. Perhaps I should have said heavy-handed. However, not knowing when to bow out IMO displays a lack of experience. Conversely you could say they were over-enthusiastic. Take your pick.

I don't come from techno, I don't hate mcs and who cares about my credentials (Dom). I raised this as there were a lot of people who couldn't hear the music because of the mcs and I thought there was good reason to bring it up in a wider context. It's not just about last Friday which is why I didn't post it in aftermath.

kion · Post by **kion** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:14 am

fair enough, probably a heavy handed response - very long weekend

rogue star · Post by **rogue star** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:28 pm

threnody wrote:I'm really feeling SLT and what they bring to a night. SLT have been on it since the beginning..anyone care to dust down their copies of Grime 1? They were on it long before then and completely tore up the end at the grime launch night alongside the mighty Rogue Star.

Fuck a duck i cant believe you remembered mate!

pure · Post by **pure** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:30 pm

You need a strong voice. All you pussyhole mcs who have some lyrics but have no voices please sit downnnn and shut up.

rogue star · Post by **rogue star** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:32 pm

/\/\/\/\ i agree thats why i do both plus i know when to put up or shutup

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:57 pm

''When I say DUB you say STEP!''

Some MCs know and respect the music, other MCs just want to hype themselves.

Pokes and Crazy are the best fit.

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:22 pm

Corpsey wrote:''When I say DUB you say STEP!''

"When i say Loe you say Fah" my personal fave.

Amateur MCs ruin A LOT of nights.

pure · Post by **pure** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:26 pm

Its upto the people running the night to fix up and turn off mic and dont be scared/weak.

plastician · Post by **plastician** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 5:28 pm

To add an angle on the debate - this was possibly the best 5 minutes i ever experienced at FWD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCVVQRYG2s

I agree, MC's who don't know what they're spitting over do spoil it - especially mc's who just talk over vocals - what's the point of "bigging up all the drinking crew...... out to the security.... ravers you liking this one???" in the middle of the chorus for rise the temperature?????

it is moments like this which force me to pull the plug on mc's. if you must big up the security, please do so over an instrumental.

whats worse is mc's that do this constantly (even over instrumentals) they are not even hosting, they're just talking shit all over the set as if they're having a conversation with somebody on their mobile.

i think we need mc's but only if they add something - be it a bit of humour between rewinds, easing the crowd into a new track, educating people about the producers behind said track, or getting fully lyrical on top of a sick instrumental. every good mc plays their part in their own way, but an mc on the same wavelength as the dj makes for a winning combo i.m.o.

rogue star · Post by **rogue star** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:42 pm

wafel wrote:
A word to Promoters:
If you're booking mcs that are going to bawl their brains out onstage, let us know.
If it's as much a surprise to you as it is to us, let them know (or get the engineer to turn off the mic).

A word to MCs who think it's what we want:
Take it somewhere else.

Let me just say this, do your research, as a dubstepper you should know who the artists are not only what is force fed to you. If i see Skibadee @ a dnb night i know what to expect(and prolly wont reach), same way i see slaughter on a line up i know what to expect(and prolly will reach). The notion that promoters should wipe your arse and feed you is a joke. They shouldn't have to warn you, it already says on the flyer, or would you rather they put on it "we have mc's that spit lyrics, those that arent on it need not attend?"

spare us your righteous indignation's and just roll with it, i fully understand that sometimes mc's over cook it, i personally take alot of this on board when i perform, but fuck it things happen and if you knew your scene in the first place you may have made the judgment yourself rather then asking people to point this out to you and wait til another time to visit that particular dance.

I agree that mc's need to work with the dj, tis what im all about and i know there are mc's in this scene that know this too, sometimes you get caught up in the vibe, lost in translation whatever.

How many dances you been to where this has happened for you to make this assumption, or was this the first time you felt this way, and because of various threads on this forum this is the decision you have come to?

Im not trying to grill anyone but more so to promote rational thought

ashley · Post by **ashley** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:53 pm

I prefer an MC to host rather than to bust a lyric. Sometimes when it gets messy it is needed of course.

elementalism · Post by **elementalism** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:19 pm

Plastician wrote:To add an angle on the debate - this was possibly the best 5 minutes i ever experienced at FWD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCVVQRYG2s

I agree, MC's who don't know what they're spitting over do spoil it - especially mc's who just talk over vocals - what's the point of "bigging up all the drinking crew...... out to the security.... ravers you liking this one???" in the middle of the chorus for rise the temperature?????

it is moments like this which force me to pull the plug on mc's. if you must big up the security, please do so over an instrumental.

whats worse is mc's that do this constantly (even over instrumentals) they are not even hosting, they're just talking shit all over the set as if they're having a conversation with somebody on their mobile.

i think we need mc's but only if they add something - be it a bit of humour between rewinds, easing the crowd into a new track, educating people about the producers behind said track, or getting fully lyrical on top of a sick instrumental. every good mc plays their part in their own way, but an mc on the same wavelength as the dj makes for a winning combo i.m.o.

That night was stupid. I can still picture Skepta coming in over Bleep. The entire place erupted.

"Lemme see your lighters in the AIR!"

Fuck off just abouts sums it up. I've never seen FWD more hype. Skeppy could have crowdsurfed, and Gift...boy. I remember Sarah Souljah coming over after the wheel up and telling them to calm down because the place was getting too rowdy.

That was a good crowd, everyone got what they wanted because the grime lot were out in force and the dubstep lot were seeing how an MC can take a dubstep tune into orbit.

Unfortunately for Vicious and Dangerous, the crowd that was partly receptive, but partly hostile and a lot of people just wanted to hear Mala. I know the history, Slaughter Mob get nothing but props from me, but unless it's down as Mala B2B SLT then you're gonna piss someone off when ennit? Swear someone told me Skinnyman, who I salute 110% managed to, managed to take over someone's dubstep set in Manchester.

Big night anyway, bit of preference ain't anything to knock a dance for.

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:49 pm

Corpsey wrote:''When I say DUB you say STEP!''

we got some of that from a touring euro mc recently and it was lol

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:58 pm

Pure wrote:Were these random mcs or mcs that were booked? I think we need to stick with mcs who just host for dubstep nights or the scene could be destroyed.

lol

_boring · Post by **_boring** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:05 am

yea, too much is just too much

jakes · Post by **jakes** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:39 am

Plastician wrote:To add an angle on the debate - this was possibly the best 5 minutes i ever experienced at FWD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCVVQRYG2s

I agree, MC's who don't know what they're spitting over do spoil it - especially mc's who just talk over vocals - what's the point of "bigging up all the drinking crew...... out to the security.... ravers you liking this one???" in the middle of the chorus for rise the temperature?????

it is moments like this which force me to pull the plug on mc's. if you must big up the security, please do so over an instrumental.

whats worse is mc's that do this constantly (even over instrumentals) they are not even hosting, they're just talking shit all over the set as if they're having a conversation with somebody on their mobile.

i think we need mc's but only if they add something - be it a bit of humour between rewinds, easing the crowd into a new track, educating people about the producers behind said track, or getting fully lyrical on top of a sick instrumental. every good mc plays their part in their own way, but an mc on the same wavelength as the dj makes for a winning combo i.m.o.

darkmatter · Post by **darkmatter** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:15 am

sapphic_beats wrote:make friends with the soundguy.

problem solved.

drifterman_ · Post by **drifterman_** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:40 am

Pure wrote:You need a strong voice. All you pussyhole mcs who have some lyrics but have no voices please sit downnnn and shut up.

chatting a bag of shit

about strong voice

d double e top mc in the uk from morning do ur homework

elgato · Post by **elgato** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:47 am

Plastician wrote:To add an angle on the debate - this was possibly the best 5 minutes i ever experienced at FWD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATCVVQRYG2s

yeh this includes what was one of the hypest moments i've ever experienced i think, when God's Gift came through words cannot express

also that night Fuda Guy absolutely killed it

and Skepta was consummate

such a sick night

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