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Postby truncated » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:36 pm

a zoot for the initial ideas phase of the song then a clear head the next day for sorting out mixing/dumb stuff i put in becuase i was off my tits.
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Postby jolly wailer » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:00 pm

Its mostly beneficial for me - helps me hear melodies and rhythms in my head, and if I have something working the weed defo gets me excited about the music.

Only real problem I've ever had is smoking in the middle of the process if I've had a few beers and getting that uncomfortable physical feeling of being too high - really tough to slide quantize your drums when you feel like you should be laying down :o

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Postby Tangka » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:11 pm

Legendary wrote:Hardly touch the stuff and when I do it seems to lead to very atmospheric stuff what I open the next day and find its just 9 minutes of pads with rawly reverbed drums..
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Postby AFL » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:52 pm

wouldn't say I need it to get in the zone, but I do enjoy a couple before I get going (or just spread it out for the whole session).
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Postby ELLFIVEDEE » Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:55 am

futures_untold wrote:.....I end up staring blankly at the screen doing nothing for two hours..... :(


I either get that, or I just keep playing with the same settings and never actually make any progress.

but a zoot and a couple of cans of brew then having a mix is a niiiice level to be on.
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Postby fiziks » Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:46 pm

I can't focus at all while I'm stoned on the computer. But, if I've been working on a tune for hours smoking a bowl to the last listen through or two of the night is the way to go. Turn off the monitor screen and just zone out. I prefer espresso or a few heavily hopped ales while I'm working.
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Postby mundayschild » Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:56 pm

It's all down to whatever floats your boat.
Personally, i used to have a smoke years ago when trying to make music, i remember being hypnotised by a loop and listening to things for ages thinking that they were the greatest sounds i'd ever heard.
Didn't do anything for my objectivity.
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Postby fused_forces » Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:41 am

SunOfSelah wrote:Trust me the zoot always helps!

That and a Guiness Import Special.


Yes Bruv! Feeling that!

Most of our tracks are made under strict FF bunning guidelines. Id say 95% are made under the influence! :D

The other 5% is made when there's none about, and were smashed on lager instead. :wink:

We do make tunes sober, but prefer a zoot to get the creative juices flowing.
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Postby truncated » Mon Oct 20, 2008 3:44 pm

my dealers bailed on me 3 days in a row :-(

no tunage for me :evil:
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Postby james fox » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:05 pm

don't you think it's time to re-evaluate things if you can't write music without being stoned?
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Postby daft cunt » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:22 pm

Smoke doesn't work for me but I've spent the last 20 hours making music on speed and really I didn't expect it would be so much fun. Maximum concentration, no sense of frustration. I learnt lots of things during the session.
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Postby jolly wailer » Fri Oct 24, 2008 5:27 pm

james fox wrote:don't you think it's time to re-evaluate things if you can't write music without being stoned?


:roll:


I doubt that folks absolutely "can't" write music without being stoned - its just preference. And it makes it more fun. Beat-making is not a serious activity. Come off it.
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Postby nekkroteukh » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:11 am

I write, produce and mix pretty much all my tracks with a spliff going or a pipe burning. I find there's no difference from when I'm sober, except my conception of time fucks up when I'm stoned. I can sit for hours without moving, suddenly "wake up" and realise I haven't eaten, drunk or taken a piss for ages. I'm also pretty good at math when high... And I can lick my own elbow. But that's not because I'm high, that's because I'm hypermobile! And high!
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Postby truncated » Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:14 am

james fox wrote:don't you think it's time to re-evaluate things if you can't write music without being stoned?



i enjoy getting lean and making a song? yes mate i need to totally re-evaluate my life and morals. :roll:

sure i can make a tune not stoned, but it's not as fun and generally doesn't turn out as good.
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Postby chrish » Sun Oct 26, 2008 8:17 am

I get random drug tests so no smoke for me. I do have an awful back, so daily prescribed hydrocodone intake is about 60mg. Don't think it helps with the tunes though.
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Postby octave_noize » Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:38 pm

I usually smoke when im writing tunes, I find it hard to get motivated and especially start a new track if i aint got no doob

I just moved out of a house where i had been living for a couple of months, i couldn't smoke inside and I hardly got any tracks writen,, :evil:

I have now moved into a new place where i can blaze till my hearts content, and i'm getting lots more done. Started bare new tracks :wink:
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Postby juxta » Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:42 pm

Smoke if yah got em.


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Postby sythec » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:20 pm

I find myself too often falling asleep to my sub.
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Postby sam the dnb man » Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:55 pm

Just have a few beers and plenty of food.
Often when i got a few mates round it helps aswell
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Postby james fox » Mon Oct 27, 2008 12:20 pm

haha, check out everyone getting all defensive :D

i was talking to the man up there who said that he wasn't going to do any production cos he couldn't pick up. it's one thing getting a bit high then listening to music (one of life's great pleasures) but if it gets to the stage that you cannot be creative without it, then i reckon you need to nip that shit in the bud - no pun intended
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