Beatport - bad mp3s?

whighzeguy · Post by **whighzeguy** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:22 pm

I had a question about mp3 shops.
Does the mastering or quality of a tune ever get compromised between producer and shop? There are a couple tunes (listed below) I recently bought that I have to completely blast the gain just to get to equal volume as the tunes I'm mixing them with. I want to say that I have numerous tunes by the producers that are mastered perfectly so I'm guessing it's something on beatports end. I wonder if I should even bother hitting beatport up to let them know. Another thing I found odd was with Caspa's "Where's My Money Remix". The tune I downloaded ends but there's still has about 1 minute of silence at the end of it. I made a mental note but it just seemed odd to me.

"Killed It Dead" - Emalkay Rmx
"Stompa" - DZ

rob sparx · Post by **rob sparx** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:03 pm

Depends on what the labels give 2 beatport - has nothing 2 do with beatport themselves they're not involved in any of the production side of things. Sounds like the label sent the unmastered version of the tune to beatport by accident or forgot to collect the final version of the tune from the mastering house.

manray · Post by **manray** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:23 pm

Bare digital releases are a flop when it comes to mastering quality.

ed teach · Post by **ed teach** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 5:50 pm

Yessur, it's all about the final masters from the labels, nothing to do with the stores.

Get in touch with the publishers before you name and shame, it's only right.

skrewface · Post by **skrewface** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:09 pm

Just report a bad mp3 and you'll get to download again. No biggie.

AFL · Post by **AFL** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:33 pm

your best bet is to send beatport a message. I have had a couple bad mp3s sent to me that I have been credited for as they are unplayable (skipping, ending to soon, etc). They're pretty good about things like that.

hope that helps.

whighzeguy · Post by **whighzeguy** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 6:42 pm

No ill will here, I think that's obvious.

Ed Teach wrote:Yessur, it's all about the final masters from the labels, nothing to do with the stores.

Get in touch with the publishers before you name and shame, it's only right.

krytikal · Post by **krytikal** » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:03 pm

my browser crashed while i was downloadin 3 tunes and they wudnt let me download em agen:(

damn you beatport, damn you

AFL · Post by **AFL** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:13 am

citizend4ne wrote:my browser crashed while i was downloadin 3 tunes and they wudnt let me download em agen:(

damn you beatport, damn you

weird, thats happened to me before too but when I go back to beatport the tracks are usually still in my "library"

ed teach · Post by **ed teach** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:02 am

Sorry whighzeguy, I wasn't having a pop at you son.

Well done for raising the issue tho' as sooner or later the majority of music will be bought and sold this way and it seems there's still no "industry standard" for the levels on MP3/WAV/LAME files. But this is also true with vinyl, sometimes you get a shitty pressing or a scratched/warped record - the difference is that in a physical record store you can choose whether or not you want to buy it (unless you receive it on mail-order) compared to most online stores which only give you a 30 second preview that you'd expect would reflect the quality of the whole track.

Can of worms anyone?

whighzeguy · Post by **whighzeguy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:17 pm

All good man, I just wanted it to be clear that I wasn't trying to take a shot at DZ, Emalkay, or Beatport

Ed Teach wrote:Sorry whighzeguy, I wasn't having a pop at you son.

Well done for raising the issue tho' as sooner or later the majority of music will be bought and sold this way and it seems there's still no "industry standard" for the levels on MP3/WAV/LAME files. But this is also true with vinyl, sometimes you get a shitty pressing or a scratched/warped record - the difference is that in a physical record store you can choose whether or not you want to buy it (unless you receive it on mail-order) compared to most online stores which only give you a 30 second preview that you'd expect would reflect the quality of the whole track.

Can of worms anyone?

manray · Post by **manray** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:09 pm

It's a joke really. I always make sure my tracks are sounding 100% crisp and are complete without any hops, skips jumps or any other stupidness. I listen to them 2-3 times carefully to make sure at the very lest.

Anyone releasing stuff digitally should fix the fuck up because it's not on. It's long for everyone involved.

moving_ninja · Post by **moving_ninja** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:49 pm

whighzeguy wrote:I had a question about mp3 shops.
Does the mastering or quality of a tune ever get compromised between producer and shop? There are a couple tunes (listed below) I recently bought that I have to completely blast the gain just to get to equal volume as the tunes I'm mixing them with. I want to say that I have numerous tunes by the producers that are mastered perfectly so I'm guessing it's something on beatports end. I wonder if I should even bother hitting beatport up to let them know. Another thing I found odd was with Caspa's "Where's My Money Remix". The tune I downloaded ends but there's still has about 1 minute of silence at the end of it. I made a mental note but it just seemed odd to me.

"Killed It Dead" - Emalkay Rmx
"Stompa" - DZ

Alot of labels simply supply the wavs they get from the vinyl mastering house which can't be as loud due to the levels used in cutting records.

I know for stuff on Tectonic, Earwax, Kapsize and Caravan - there is a separate digital mastering process which normally involves a bit more limiting of the masters to get them as loud as you'd expect if they were released on a cd.

Its a shame other labels aren't giving as much consideration to digital releases with the music industry in the state it is these days.

joshuablack · Post by **joshuablack** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:53 pm

I know for stuff on Tectonic, Earwax, Kapsize and Caravan - there is a separate digital mastering process which normally involves a bit more limiting of the masters to get them as loud as you'd expect if they were released on a cd.

Yeah we do this for Sidestepper and the DUB SPOT Exclusives store.
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whighzeguy · Post by **whighzeguy** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 3:35 pm

I wanted to mention that the guys at Beatport were a pleasure to deal with and got me all straight. Outstanding customer service.

trench · Post by **trench** » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:31 pm

beatport is cool about things, you can always download your purchases tracks again if you logged into your account..... unless they changed it, havn't been on in a month or 2.

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