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Post by youngadubstepper » Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:43 pm

Its onli good if its dun right!!! the most lyrical and aggressive mc's should spray on dubstep!!! skepta aint reli right for it i dun fink personally!! dubstep wuld suit sumone like ghetto, durrty gooodzz, scorcher maybe, wretch is bare lyrical but dnt fink hed suit dubstep.... but durrty goodz definatly....
hu else agree's!!
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Post by human? » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:13 am

fuck this thread.

if youve enver heard dubstep with mcs i can only assume youve been listening for 5 minutes. go back to bitching about dnb MCs on DOA.

total internet waste.

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Post by human? » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:19 am

Slothrop wrote:Did we not have this thread literally a week ago in the main forum?
indeed. over and over and over again, across the internets.

geeks who are too scared to "name names" and are usually closet racists perpetrate this nonsense, while contributing nothing and ignoring history..

why not just have your MCless parties complainers? i know why... cause parties without MCs are boring as fuck.. end of..

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Post by justrob » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:30 am

mc's can add to a party, mc's can take away from a party but to say that a party needs mc's? thats hogwash.
Junglist wrote:obviously have nowhere near as much experience as justrob, the problem was getting the sub to have some power

Junglist wrote: I clearly know how to make music. Why else would I have 170+ posts in a dubstep production forum if I didn't make the music you fucktard! :roll:

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Post by justrob » Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:46 am

mc's can add to a party, mc's can take away from a party but to say that a party needs mc's? thats hogwash.
Junglist wrote:obviously have nowhere near as much experience as justrob, the problem was getting the sub to have some power

Junglist wrote: I clearly know how to make music. Why else would I have 170+ posts in a dubstep production forum if I didn't make the music you fucktard! :roll:

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Post by eshscramble » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:04 am

i've only heard an MC that i liked once. usually i hate it, especially if i DL a mix.

HOWEVER,
if the show is poppin, and it's a good MC(flow, presence, don't say dumb stuff, etc) AND i have had at least 4 or 5 bass/newcastle, i can deal with it :wink:

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Post by human? » Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:49 am

i apologize for my harshness re: this topic, its something that has been on my mind alot lately in various realms of performance & party. what im REALLY sick of, is fucking complaining & dumb generalizations when there is so much talent out there and infinate amounts of fun to be had...

so im complaining about complaining and come off salty as fuck, truth be told i have so much fun everywhere i go all the time, maybe im weird like that,,,

and yo, i know how it rolls in Picksburgh yo, just rocked at shadow lounge last thursday, fresh Hiphop session in one part, vibesing reggae dancehall party in the other, mad females, mad talent, and MCs all around, get off your high horse and linkup. for fucks sake.


big respect to all the dope MCs and hosts and DJMCs and people yelling in the crowd MCs, and everyone who raps to themselves... keep singin the good song..

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Post by manray » Thu Oct 30, 2008 9:53 am

human? wrote:i apologize for my harshness re: this topic
Well you are sounding as dumb as all the other people you are complaining about. Fix up.

I ain't feeling MC's over dubstep but if they let the music roll out then it's all good with me. People like pokes etc.. do their job well. They just fill in every now and then and provide a bit of a voice for the performer.

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Re: Mc's over Dj's

Post by serox » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:08 am

abZ wrote:
fiziks wrote:Personally, I hate the idea. The only time I wanna hear a MC is on a hiphop track. Because, lets face it, it's usually some asshole jibber jabbering over a tune making shit sound bad. I've never heard anyone MC over dubstep, but I always thought it was a bad idea over DNB and can only assume the same over dubstep.
It is the same IMO. You know how we roll in Picksburgh, 0 MC's. I want to hear the music for fucks sake.
I have to agree with you two. I come from a Techno background and I cannot stand MCs. They normally have nothing to say and they are saying it to loud.
Don’t worry about people stealing an idea. If it’s original, you will have to ram it down their throats.

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Post by danoldboy » Thu Oct 30, 2008 10:51 am

Mc's are an essential part of the live interaction between the crowd and dj. If you've ever been to a night with a good MC you'd appreciate the rolling vibes and energy that they can bring to a set.

If you've only ever heard mc'ing on a set you've downloaded then you need to get out of the house.

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Post by turfa » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:06 am

in grime, ye... but dubstep isnt about mcs. (imo obviusly)
i dont go to hear mcs, and if im told there will be mcs im dissapointed.

i dont mind MCing and rapping, but for dubstep its all about the track itself. thats why the production quality of dubstep towers over the production of grime tracks.

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Post by danoldboy » Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:35 am

Mc's have been spitting over dubstep week in week out since before it even had a name. How is it not a part of the sound, especially live?

I'm not going to go on so I'll just say it's an integral part of the culture to me, I understand if it's not for others.

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Post by vision » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:14 pm

the problem is alot of mc think its all about "them".

thay will never say it but thay do. you can tell when (as it was said) when a big tune drops thay wana spit over it as mutch as that can.

remember without a mc there is still music but with out the music where is the mc?

and IMO the reason Dnb was never as "big" as i sould have been was because of mc's.

how meany nights brag on the flyer "NO MC" because thay know more people will turn up.

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Post by serox » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:21 pm

I played out not long ago and didnt know they had an MC to chat over my set. Turns out they could have either the MC or myself coming thru the monitors. They those the MC and was not having any of it from me.

I chose not to play and let some bloke mix and make a total fool of himself.
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Post by DZA » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:05 pm

at the end off the day its choice, if you dont like it dont listen, i dont like people mcing over things but it dont stop me enjoying the music, theyve allways been there and are allway gonna be there just enjoy the music while ya can
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Post by relik » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:05 pm

There are good emcees and bad, just like there are good djs and bad. Saying emcees don't belong over jungle or dubstep is being completely ignorant to the history of the sound. There is nothing I love more than a proper emcee over a jungle set. There are way too many proper emcees to even name that contributed to many classic jungle tunes. Plenty of dancehall cats. Jungle wouldn't be the same without emcees period.

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Post by whitelight » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:16 pm

I'm surprised no one mentionned Kode9's Memories of The Future.

Spaceape is doing an amazing job there, and it gives an awesome result.

I personally don't mind MC as long as they have something special to give and fit the music. The Bug's tracks are a good examples of this. Warrior Queen rocks and Flowdan has such a voice!

But I believe someone MCing over a track not originaly made to have a MC over it can really fuck up the vibe.
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Post by serox » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:26 pm

WhiteLight wrote:I'm surprised no one mentionned Kode9's Memories of The Future.

Spaceape is doing an amazing job there, and it gives an awesome result.

I personally don't mind MC as long as they have something special to give and fit the music. The Bug's tracks are a good examples of this. Warrior Queen rocks and Flowdan has such a voice!

But I believe someone MCing over a track not originaly made to have a MC over it can really fuck up the vibe.
Those lot are more singing tho, arnt they?

MCs are going wiggy wiggy wiggy, look at me, look at you WOO. check out my bad boy hat. BOO.

etc.
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Post by b-lam » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:38 pm

tempest wrote:yeah while we're at it, fuck ride cymbals and fuck french horns :|

i think we should all listen to music made from 808 kits, pure sines, and a few reverbed up bits of ambience to provide bare viiibbez. oh and while we're at it everything should be in the key of G to maximise bass impact. All newcomers will be ostracized for jumping the bandwagon. oh and no hair at our dances. i hate hair.

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Post by abZ » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:56 pm

Serox wrote:I played out not long ago and didnt know they had an MC to chat over my set. Turns out they could have either the MC or myself coming thru the monitors. They those the MC and was not having any of it from me.

I chose not to play and let some bloke mix and make a total fool of himself.
Good on you. I would have done exactly the same. Too many people are just desperate to get on the decks.

I am sure I sound like a total hater in this thread but I actually have performed several times with an MC. I will only do it on my terms tho and when the MC and I have an understanding. If I say shut up then that's it. If they don't comply the xlr is getting pulled. And I have told MC's from other crews to sit down when they tried to do their thing over my set. You just have to stand up for yourself.

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