SMOKING BAN GREAT NEWS

[legend4ry]

I'd fancy my chances against a Smart car. Adopt a low stance...POW! Write off. I simply stub out my cig on the bonnet, and poddle off to the dance.

maybe..... until the extreme reverb created by the crumpling of said smart car bounces off a nearby tall building and perforates the eardrum of an innocent employee of the neighbouring carpark. This results in you getting sued and charged for severe negligence and contributing to an inhospitable and unsafe working environment.

!!!

You say that like you've experienced it!

[kins83]

I'd fancy my chances against a Smart car. Adopt a low stance...POW! Write off. I simply stub out my cig on the bonnet, and poddle off to the dance.

maybe..... until the extreme reverb created by the crumpling of said smart car bounces off a nearby tall building and perforates the eardrum of an innocent employee of the neighbouring carpark. This results in you getting sued and charged for severe negligence and contributing to an inhospitable and unsafe working environment.

Good! I'm glad I made the parking attendant deaf. Only just remembered to pay that damn fine last night, would have leapt up to £70 otherwise. Stupid traffic wardens.

[fc]

being at bestival this year was already a miserable enough experience without also being hounded by the security for smoking in open sided tents.

should have come to Outlook lol

[fc]

i bet a lot of the people who campaigned for the smoking ban never even go out to pubs and clubs.

Me.
I think people need to consider the bigger picture here. Quit rates are 25% up, and considerably less people are taking it up in the first place as well as protecting workers...How can this be a bad thing? if you lot had your time again can you honestly say you would choose to take it up? would you encourage your children to start smoking? OK so it maybe it is more difficult to get your nicotine fix down at fwd but stop being so goddamn selfish! the point of the smoking ban is to create a culture where smoking is less socially acceptable - good for everyone in the long run

[rogue star]

Fuck cigarettes i just wanna bun a spliff in a dance

[dr ddd]

on the flip side, i really do believe that over zealous dry ice machine operators should be shot

[surface_tension]

yea that is real good, don't believe the hype though. Now the government is limiting the licenses, meaning that FOR A PENNY TO THEM, you can actually stay in business. Amounts to extortion.

[geiom]

i bet a lot of the people who campaigned for the smoking ban never even go out to pubs and clubs.

Me.
I think people need to consider the bigger picture here. Quit rates are 25% up, and considerably less people are taking it up in the first place as well as protecting workers...How can this be a bad thing? if you lot had your time again can you honestly say you would choose to take it up? would you encourage your children to start smoking? OK so it maybe it is more difficult to get your nicotine fix down at fwd but stop being so goddamn selfish! the point of the smoking ban is to create a culture where smoking is less socially acceptable - good for everyone in the long run

I don't even smoke lol.

I agree with most of what you are saying, I just think a 100 percent blanket ban is too much.

There is some idea that since herbs went out of the dance the class A drugs became more popular leading to the over noisy heavy metal macho stuff they call dubstep these days....

[Pistonsbeneath]

i bet a lot of the people who campaigned for the smoking ban never even go out to pubs and clubs.

Me.
I think people need to consider the bigger picture here. Quit rates are 25% up, and considerably less people are taking it up in the first place as well as protecting workers...How can this be a bad thing? if you lot had your time again can you honestly say you would choose to take it up? would you encourage your children to start smoking? OK so it maybe it is more difficult to get your nicotine fix down at fwd but stop being so goddamn selfish! the point of the smoking ban is to create a culture where smoking is less socially acceptable - good for everyone in the long run

I don't even smoke lol.

I agree with most of what you are saying, I just think a 100 percent blanket ban is too much.

There is some idea that since herbs went out of the dance the class A drugs became more popular leading to the over noisy heavy metal macho stuff they call dubstep these days....

vex'd were around before the ban though....surely its when the tunes are being made thats when smoking weed has an effect

[geiom]

true, but how many vex'd style tunes did you hear in the dance tho ?

there's tons of music to choose from out there, its what the DJ's select/what the crowd seems to go mad for that affects the music choice at raves.

[slothrop]

To be honest, the thing that pissed me off most about the whole situation was the number of people who sat around looking the other way while stuff like detention without trial, ID cards, surveillance society, war in Iraq, 'extraordinary rendition' and so on happened, but are suddenly overflowing with righteous fury that "fundamental human rights" are being destroyed now they can't light up in a pub.

Although it's not as annoying as the way that politicians have suddenly become interested in 'ancient freedoms' now its their offices that are getting a once over from the old bill rather than climate change protesters getting arrested under anti-terror laws...

[geiom]

To be honest, the thing that pissed me off most about the whole situation was the number of people who sat around looking the other way while stuff like detention without trial, ID cards, surveillance society, war in Iraq, 'extraordinary rendition' and so on happened, but are suddenly overflowing with righteous fury that "fundamental human rights" are being destroyed now they can't light up in a pub.

Although it's not as annoying as the way that politicians have suddenly become interested in 'ancient freedoms' now its their offices that are getting a once over from the old bill rather than climate change protesters getting arrested under anti-terror laws...

some people can't understand how some of those changes might affect them, smoking ban affects them on a day to day.

this thread ain't big enough to contain/discuss all the civil liberties that have been lost since Blair arrived.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Taking-Libertie ... 1905978030

this book is tho.

[legend4ry]

OK so it maybe it is more difficult to get your nicotine fix down at fwd but stop being so goddamn selfish! the point of the smoking ban is to create a culture where smoking is less socially acceptable - good for everyone in the long run

Its a bit jarring I mean, one of the most sociable things in my life was meeting up at the cafe after a messy night, having a cigarette and a coffee and talking about the night before..Now we have to use this awful invention called the phone


I think the smoking ban has made it so little indie skats can go out and be straight edge in peace and upper middle class people can go to the pub and not have to go outside for some fresh air every 5 minutes...The only people ive known who have quit smoking is because they can't afford it ...... Or have moved to rolling backy cause its so expensive to smoke straights.

I dunno 'bout everyone else but practically everyone I see in the street has a cigarette in their hand...A few of my mates have started smoking since stopping toking (cause of the smoking ban they couldn't bun in clubs) its had a ripple effect on people who smoke and to be honest if 2nd hand smoke was THAT deadly, they would of banned cigarettes all together, people know the risks and carry on so why not let the percent of the population who want to kill them selfs a bit more every time they spark up have their cake and eat it ain't we a nation what laughs at and enjoys ignorance?? I personally think its a joke, spesh when you're at the pub/club and you see the bar workers going out for cigarettes when all the people drinking do and you can actually get a echo in the room cause all thats in there is empty pint glasses and its only 8pm?...Its like telling meat eaters to go outside so the vegetarians don't have to see the meat or smell it..

[fc]

Its like telling meat eaters to go outside so the vegetarians don't have to see the meat or smell it..

lol not really! give it another year Legendary and you'll have forgotten you were ever allowed to smoke inside in the first place..it's about changing the culture - for lots of people it's now completely normal to go outside for a cigarette, most of my mates prefer it now anyway..

A few of my mates have started smoking since stopping toking (cause of the smoking ban they couldn't bun in clubs) its had a ripple effect on people who smoke and to be honest if 2nd hand smoke was THAT deadly, they would of banned cigarettes all together

not feasible cos of human rights etc, which is totally fair enough. smoking ban causing your mates to smoke hmm a likely story..and certainly not typical of the rest of the uk, department of health has facts n figures to prove the success

anyways, i don't want to come across as some self-righteous non-smoker, i dont have beef with people smoking at all, each to their own init, it just annoys me when people are so short sighted they can't see the plus side of things like this due to abit of inconvenience to themselves

[legend4ry]

Fair play about good health and all that just didn't think people actually cared THAT much.. Only people I knew pre-ban to care about it was people who barely even went out anyways. I agreed with the ban till the weekend when I played out and couldn't have a smoke in my hand on the decks, made me nervous throughout my whole set


Still, at least the piss & stale beer has been sorted out in places I go too, was the worse a few days after the ban, pubs didn't clock on they had to clean I guess..

[fc]

I agreed with the ban till the weekend when I played out and couldn't have a smoke in my hand on the decks, made me nervous throughout my whole set

pressie for you



will look like you're smoking a tampon though

[fc]

I don't even smoke lol.

yeh whatevs..

'Smoking' mix August 2008 -
http://www.dubstep.com.ua/download/rins ... nsemix.mp3

[legend4ry]

I agreed with the ban till the weekend when I played out and couldn't have a smoke in my hand on the decks, made me nervous throughout my whole set

pressie for you



will look like you're smoking a tampon though

Times like these needs for someone to say .. "wouldn't be the first time" but sadly I can't deliver the jokes.

Yeah I am thinking of getting the gum for clubs so I don't have to trek outside and such.

[HamCrescendo]

All my mates are smokers. Meaning they end up going outside at pubs/clubs and I'm left on my jacks. Naturally I dont want to be left there, so I go outside anyway, the smoking ban actually harms me as a non-smoker because I get fucking freezing just for wantin to chat with mates, like we should be able to do inside.


Couldnt give a rats arse about passive smoking, fair enough if I was a little kid living in a smokey house (which the ban does nothing to prevent), but its just goin out with mates every so often and breathing in a little smoke, couldnt give a fuck about that.

[geiom]

Couldnt give a rats arse about passive smoking, fair enough if I was a little kid living in a smokey house (which the ban does nothing to prevent), but its just goin out with mates every so often and breathing in a little smoke, couldnt give a fuck about that.

hadn't thought about this - guess its quite likely that some parents might go to the pub less since the smoking ban and do even more of their smoking around their kids.

not great.