the dubstep yout

[Pistonsbeneath]

we were all stupid kids once

hey im on your side...

wisdom isnt something anyone is born with...

i was stupid when young then...i guess youre not

[ST100]

depends what you mean by stupid.

[Pistonsbeneath]

depends what you mean by stupid.

as in young stupid...

i listened to some questionable music and turned my nose up as some classy music when young...largely fueled by my perceived image from others.....when you get older you become less interested in buying into things....

not condemning it just saying when young this is normal...

it seems odd to me that more youngsters don't like gravious, reso, marlow etc but just jump all over the most popular and cool music...ala pendulum when there is so much more out there....

[ST100]

I see what you're saying.

and, my god. I love Reso, etc.

I know some kids who do that... I'll be playing some Loefah, or some Mala, and I won't be getting any recognition. and then I'll play something by Caspa and they'll have a sudden outburst saying something like "this is sick!!"

it makes me laugh.

[kulture]

i dont really think it's an age ting.. more just an education of music ting. Not every is in to music.. despite what ipods are trying to force. This is why the pop industry will pump out quick/cheap thrill music so that people who won't appreciate a deeper side, either cus they don't care or because they just don't think about things enough, will have something to listen to...

although, obviously the main reason they pump out these tunes is THE MONIES. And most of the bands and artists that get to this height of musical business think that everyone buys their tunes because it's an amazing piece of music... not because it's been forced into peoples lives through A&R, Radio, TV and other media forms. This is where ego's develop lol

If i played people a certain tune enough, half would end up loving it and half would end up hating it most likely... same with pop.. it's just forced on people. Dunno what the original reason i started typing was... but fuck it, it's all about chattin shit.

One day, some big record producer will think "hey, you know what, kids are liking this new sound called dubstep. I think we should jump on this and whack some autotuned-to-bludclart bitch over the the top and we're in the money"... what they don't realise is they can seriously damage the art form from which they are making money out of.... it's like seeing the first ever painting of a certain genre of art and then mass producing that genre with minimal deep relavence to the original feeling and ideas of the painting. Suddenly the whole world will think it is educated on this genre and the original true concepts are pushed aside as they are a bit too much work for the majority of peoples' mind sets.


BORED @ WORK = all of the above

[elementalism]

i dont really think it's an age ting.. more just an education of music ting. Not every is in to music.. despite what ipods are trying to force. This is why the pop industry will pump out quick/cheap thrill music so that people who won't appreciate a deeper side, either cus they don't care or because they just don't think about things enough, will have something to listen to...

although, obviously the main reason they pump out these tunes is THE MONIES. And most of the bands and artists that get to this height of musical business think that everyone buys their tunes because it's an amazing piece of music... not because it's been forced into peoples lives through A&R, Radio, TV and other media forms. This is where ego's develop lol

If i played people a certain tune enough, half would end up loving it and half would end up hating it most likely... same with pop.. it's just forced on people. Dunno what the original reason i started typing was... but fuck it, it's all about chattin shit.

One day, some big record producer will think "hey, you know what, kids are liking this new sound called dubstep. I think we should jump on this and whack some autotuned-to-bludclart bitch over the the top and we're in the money"... what they don't realise is they can seriously damage the art form from which they are making money out of.... it's like seeing the first ever painting of a certain genre of art and then mass producing that genre with minimal deep relavence to the original feeling and ideas of the painting. Suddenly the whole world will think it is educated on this genre and the original true concepts are pushed aside as they are a bit too much work for the majority of peoples' mind sets.


BORED @ WORK = all of the above

Bang on.

I arrived at the sound naturally because the elements that make it up are all sounds that I loved growing up. The new stuff that's being thrown in is what keeps me listening. Hip-hop is a beautiful form of music, but a lot of it has becoming stale and hip-hop fans will generally always tell you that it was 'better in the old days'. DnB heads will call themselves Junglists and wear the t-shirts, but most of them couldn't tell you much about Jungle music.

The key to beating this is for promoters to make sure they're booking a healthy mixture of artists, big up all of the people who are giving people a bit of education rather than guaranteeing themselves a profit.

People need to worry less about the type of people who are turning up at the nights, though. I couldn't rave when I was 9, but I listened to Jungle faithfully until I didn't like where it was going. Now I'm finding out that there was thousands of other kids, just like me and my friends who are pushing this sound hard and who are dedicated. It isn't a coincidence that I like the music that Skream and Heny G make, they were listening to the same shit in 1994 that I was.

Music is a social fabric, remember that. Dance music has always, no matter what people tell you, been a social scene first and a music scene last. We can listen to the music at home, but going out means having the chance to be around like-minded people and hear it properly. DMZ 3rd Birthday was one of the best nights of my life, but the fact that so many of the people that I know were there made it even better.

You've just gotta accept that there are a lot of kids around, with enough money to be able to buy enough coke/ketamine/MDMA to make any night enjoyable, who will turn up. Always has been, though!

[waaaae9]

I'm 23, some older mates gave me the education on jungle. Started listening to jungle age 10. Then D+B, garage, grime, now dubstep. So I couldn't say when I started listening to dubstep, just progression. I'm not surprised bout seeing a lot of youngers at nights. Dubsteps new in the context of how its being promoted and I'd have jumped on the waggon if I was a teen again.


LONG LIVE JUNGLE!

Excuse me?

Doesn't get played out enough anymore - died...
Long live, in my heart and tape packs!

[truncated]

sure beats the best of hardcore/cheesey euro trance i hear everywhere back in essex,

i play dubstep in my car round there people give me weird looks like my cars about to explode becuase of the strange noises

[eastern spin doctor]

Caspa and Rusko in comparisson to alot of other artists in the scene are more genric and more digestable to the general public due to several common elements within the music. i think this is why its easy for younger people to like it.

[-dubson-]

Caspa and Rusko in comparisson to alot of other artists in the scene are more genric and more digestable to the general public due to several common elements within the music. i think this is why its easy for younger people to like it.

yeah i suppose so, its is so annoing though when some dnb guy you know comes up to you and is like "you like dubstep, i found this awesome track"

not cause i hate that caspa and rusko stuff, their just not really getting the idea of what dubstep is

[ST100]

their just not really getting the idea of what dubstep is fully

[guyus-]

It's all about the kids.

I'm 30. I didn't invent dubstep, they did.

true
that's what i like about dubstep, big part of it reps a next generation.

[spiderman]

the dubstep youts crew.

sorry had to say it.

[mumble]

their just not really getting the idea of what dubstep is fully

I agree, most of the people that Ive met that have been into Dubstep have only listened to FabricLive37 more or less. But this is the case for all genres, theres always going to be artists that appeal to a wider audience than others.

Ive spent countless hours burnin' CD's for people trying to show them the diversity of the music. Youve just got to give them that little push in the right direction sometimes.

[grievous_angel]

I was at a dinner party tonight and there was a 13 year old there who was well into dubstep. Loves Skream and Burial, not that bothered about Caspa and Rusko.

(But really, if caspa and rusko are bringing the kids into dubstep, that is very cool...)

[dublife]

Fact is we all get into it in a different way and everyones gotta start somewhere.

I do get annoyed when I play out and get peeps comin up to me askin for 'Night' or some bait Rusko tune but at the end of the day at least they've heard of something and it's an oppurtunity to educate. Like someone said before I reckon the home stereo thing is a factor. Listen to most DMZ stuff on a little system it can sound a little weak whereas Fabric 37 you can hear most of the stuff cos its generally in a higher register. Listen to DMZ stuff at FWD or on a Function One or something similar though and you clock how stupidly sick it is. Obviously most clubs ID pretty heavily so it's hard to hear it on a system so this would explain the love of jump-up and wobble. Suggest youts try and reach some raves.

Still rate Rusko big time though. Gotta bear in mind everything he's done for the sound.