Producing UK FUNKY..

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:03 pm

Theres alot of people from certain genres like Grime(Marcus Nasty,Jammer)
Dubstep (Ramadanman,Kode 9) Are all jumping on the Funky House Vibe..

I think this mainly because its more soft and appeals to a audience where they are not blamed for violence etc such as Grime and Bassline are.. and Dubstep is seen more as Dark .. whereas Fukky its more male and FEMALE oriented.. So its perfect for it to go commercial

What do you lot think?

Any of you have any tips on the production of Funky House

Here some Percussion Tips for Funky in Fruity Loops(Taken from a random article found on the internet) :

2. Drums - The drums and percussion are one of the main elements of making the song groove. Basically funky house is a dance music, so you need to make percussion that people can dance to. First of all you need to add the kick. It's always good to have a solid clean kick for a house track. One way you can make perfect kicks is add two diffrent kicks playing at the same time. For instance, take a normal hip hop kick and mix it with any other techno kick (The c_kick isn't a good idea unless you add a cut to it.) Then add your hats. Add some shakers with the hats and add a shuffle to the pattern to get the funky feel. Then put all the hats in one FX channel and add small delay (only a little amount). Then u need a thick snare and clap combined and lower the volume down on thse two instruments. Then you needs sum percs, conogs of some sort. It's better to have live congos then electronic ones like the ones on a TR-808 and TR-909 drum machine. Try to either record real congos or look for royalty-free perc loops from the internet. Then if you want to add more realism, add sum drumloops to play with the drums you put together. Remember, the more variety, the more better the drums, just don't over-do it.

wub · Post by **wub** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:39 pm

Here's a shot of a house beat I've been using as a test bed for some basslines;

Top line is the main kick
Second is the same kick sample pitched down one octave in the piano roll and EQ'd to give it a bit of low end prescence.
Hat on the off beat
Clap on the end of every 8
Snare to snap on every other kick
Then two alternating closed hat samples, run through a little flange to give it some movement

Swing is set at just over half to give it a more bouncing feel.

This is by no means a be all and end all; more a sort of starting point.

wub · Post by **wub** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:44 pm

And here's another one I started work on earlier, this time using just an 808 drum set;

Top three are kicks, EQ'd to make them sit together
Clap on the off beat
Closed hat for movement
Random cow bell hits at the end of each bar, for some reason I haven't yet figured out
Then three open hat samples, all reversed and with the timing adjusted to make them as little upwards WHOOSH sounds towards the end of the bar
Next five lines are all Tom samples - again, EQ'd and fiddled to make a pattern of sorts.

This pattern has a much more robotic feel to it, mainly as I've only used 808 samples and there is no swing. Once I've got the patterning down, I'll try swapping some of the kicks et al with 'real' samples and take it from there.

wub · Post by **wub** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:01 pm

Also, if you're looking for a starting point you might try this;

3 x Funky House MIDI files

This is a zipped file containing three MIDI files for the following tracks;

Alter Ego - Rocker (Eric Prydz remix)
Bodyroxx - Yeah Yeah
Daft Punk - Da Funk

Import these directly into FL and you'll see the layout for the drums, basslines, pads etc etc. Should give you an idea about how this sort of track is put together.

(MIDI files available freely from NonStop2K)

r · Post by r » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:18 pm

thats not funky house in my ears.

check out :

Joey Youngman
Digital villains
Hardsoul (label)
Tommy Largo
Kid Creme

stuff like that...

now thats funky

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:27 pm

vengeance essential clubsounds has some kicks to start you out with
also learn sidechaining

r · Post by r » Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:10 pm

we're not making basshunter techno and sidechaining is not only a process youll do with the kicks

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:36 pm

Wub wrote:Here's a shot of a house beat I've been using as a test bed for some basslines;

Top line is the main kick
Second is the same kick sample pitched down one octave in the piano roll and EQ'd to give it a bit of low end prescence.
Hat on the off beat
Clap on the end of every 8
Snare to snap on every other kick
Then two alternating closed hat samples, run through a little flange to give it some movement

Swing is set at just over half to give it a more bouncing feel.

This is by no means a be all and end all; more a sort of starting point.

Wow, Thanks for all that detail..

thats defiantly helped me/will help me .. gunna try and put it in to practice later on at night ( as i cant sleep anymore) insomatic universitys just fucked me up haha ! ..and thanks for the midis .. =)

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:40 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:vengeance essential clubsounds has some kicks to start you out with
also learn sidechaining

Thanks =) yeah thanks but i prefer the Vengence Essential House Vol 1,2

and learnt Sidechaining though producing dubstep buh thanks!

wub · Post by **wub** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:57 pm

sunnyb wrote:

Wow, Thanks for all that detail.. thats defiantly helped me/will help me .. gunna try and put it in to practice later on at night ( as i cant sleep anymore) insomatic universitys just fucked me up haha ! ..and thanks for the midis .. =)

No worries boss - hit me up on PM or MSN if you've got any other questions - dj_wub@hotmail.com

Littlefoot · Post by **Littlefoot** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 3:40 pm

Funky House and UK Funky are actually quite different beasts.

genres are just wierd how they evolve and the names get re-used etc.

Listen to Apple his drum patterns are mental

fiziks · Post by **fiziks** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 9:30 pm

funky house, bassline house, deep house, hard house, ghetto house, tribal house, glitchy house, dubby house, tech-house, electro-house, chicago house, house house.

lol

I always think of deep house as house, I guess. Sub-genre's are fun. So who are some UK Funky people? I always thought of funky house as dj dan and that crew's sound. Which was, eh, okay I guess. Nothing to get excited about really. But, they always seemed to have a good fan base. I could never get down with the whole disco/funky whatever sound. Always seemed cheesy. Oh!, that's one I forgot, Disco House. Seriously though, if Kode 9 is making house it's probably dope.

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:10 pm

UK funky is all about syncopation. not a ton of 4x4 kicks in the majority of the tunes i've heard-- much more involved riddims than that.

and the kids, they LOVE the conga samples.

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:34 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:UK funky is all about syncopation. not a ton of 4x4 kicks in the majority of the tunes i've heard-- much more involved riddims than that.

Yeah, I was going to say that.

A lot of the stuff people are posting in this thread seems to be talking about traditional funky house - UK funky rhythms don't seem to be built on top of the basic Kick hat snare hat kick hat snare hat in the same way and I think if you did that it'd sound a bit staid next to a lot of the new stuff that's coming out.

The big difference seems to be that the snares and claps are all over the shop and the congas are key to the rhythm rather than being just another layer. Lots of things hitting every 3 semiquavers too. Otherwise dunno.

bassbeyondreason · Post by **bassbeyondreason** » Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:49 pm

UK Funky seems to be operating on the grime principle of putting stuff down randomly and seeing what sounds good. It's a healthy process.

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 12:20 am

TeReKeTe wrote: and the kids, they LOVE the conga samples.

lol

doomstep · Post by **doomstep** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 5:02 am

That 'house beat' screenshot is useless for UK House, sorry. To rigid even for trad. (US) Funky House which usually does keep the offbeat hat & straight 2 & 4 snares. Sample CDs like Vengeance are usefull, but, you wouldn't wanna use 'just' them sounds. One thing alot of UK House has in comman is big acoustic sounds, so check out sound sets designed for trad. Latin / Afro genres & North African / Middle Eastern 'ethnic' CDs always have some good shit!

UK House rarely has flat open hat & snare patterns like that. Snares will more often use a Soca pattern over a 4x4 kick, shakers & hand percussion more than closed / open hats, which tend more to play riffs, maybe 1 or 2 open hats to a bar.

Slothrop wrote:Lots of things hitting every 3 semiquavers too.

Loads of clave riddims! & deep / floor toms working with the kicks to imply a straight 4x4 without the kick actually hitting on the 4x4.

TeReKeTe wrote:and the kids, they LOVE the conga samples.

Don't forget the timbales!!!!

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:58 pm

Joe C wrote:Funky House and UK Funky are actually quite different beasts.

genres are just wierd how they evolve and the names get re-used etc.

Listen to Apple his drum patterns are mental

Yeah Cheers mate for clearing that up.. it was my mistake my aim of the thread was to focus on Uk Funky but i thought that as Uk funky is big at the moment people would saw it as Funky House.. but there few people in this helpin with Funky House so its all good..but was lookin more Congo,Bongo Percussion Help etc.!

sunnyb · Post by **sunnyb** » Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:58 pm

CHANGED THREAD NAME TO CLEAR UP CONFUSION

physical · Post by **physical** » Mon Dec 22, 2008 1:17 am

can someone pls post a link to the myspace of a good 'uk funky' producer...havent heard any of this stuff yet and sounds interesting.

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