Computer Music Magazine: Guide to Making Dubstep

spooKs · Post by **spooKs** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:47 pm

It's a bit late but what the hell, pour me a cup please Mechabot? Got any dark chocolate hobnobs or anything?

mechabot 01 · Post by **mechabot 01** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:03 pm

Hob Nobs are about as easy to come by here as a pork sandwich in Israel, double stuffed Oreos?

dj $hy · Post by **dj $hy** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:07 pm

Mechabot 01 wrote:Hob Nobs are about as easy to come by here as a pork sandwich in Israel, double stuffed Oreos?

LOL

No sugar ta, sweet enough

PG Tips in US though?

pdomino · Post by **pdomino** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:01 pm

Not about hobnobs, about Oaties... from Aldi.lol

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:11 pm

bluenote wrote:
you could have someone who has original ideas flying about, but has no idea how to put them into practice. For someone like this, a basic formula (to use as a STARTING POINT) can clearly only be a good thing.

It's a difficult one, for every shit copycat producer that could potentially spring up as a result of this you could get a diamond in the rough.

i agree!!

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:11 pm

DJ $hy wrote:
Mechabot 01 wrote:Hob Nobs are about as easy to come by here as a pork sandwich in Israel, double stuffed Oreos?
LOL

No sugar ta, sweet enough PG Tips in US though?

oh yes you can get them here! it's great

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:14 pm

trying to look in a more positive perspective...

has anyone actually READ this article and found it useful?

im sure someone has...

corpsey · Post by **corpsey** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:17 pm

It's not as if there aren't people making fucking shit tunes who know better anyway.

overcast radio · Post by **overcast radio** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:35 pm

hehe jode:)

little boh peep · Post by **little boh peep** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:07 pm

Corpsey wrote:It's not as if there aren't people making fucking shit tunes who know better anyway.

tranquera · Post by **tranquera** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:26 pm

I'd like to read this magazine... Knowledge is power... If more people could make beats... Things could be more democratic and diverse... Why not? In the end of the day... Only a few will be real artists... A Burial don't appear every time... I don't understand this fear...

mechabot 01 · Post by **mechabot 01** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:57 pm

incyde wrote:
DJ $hy wrote:
Mechabot 01 wrote:Hob Nobs are about as easy to come by here as a pork sandwich in Israel, double stuffed Oreos?
LOL

No sugar ta, sweet enough PG Tips in US though?
oh yes you can get them here! it's great

Ok, let's keep it on topic - Are you for real? can you really get Hobnobs in NYC? If so, let me know where please, I'll even buy you a pack for the heds up.

Shy - Yup, they are proper PG Tips too, not the via Egypt crap like the cadburys chocolate. ( not that there is anything wrong with Egypt, apart from the bad cadburys).

rogue star · Post by **rogue star** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:26 pm

all about specs my friend! failing that a good central market store will suffice, and yes paddy they get good PG out there, twas nuttin but gold leaf for me when i was there last

haridas · Post by **haridas** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:36 pm

i used to make shit dubstep then i bought CM mag, now its the bollocks
what ya gunna do

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:39 pm

Mechabot 01 wrote:
incyde wrote:
DJ $hy wrote:
Mechabot 01 wrote:Hob Nobs are about as easy to come by here as a pork sandwich in Israel, double stuffed Oreos?
LOL

No sugar ta, sweet enough PG Tips in US though?
oh yes you can get them here! it's great

Ok, let's keep it on topic - Are you for real? can you really get Hobnobs in NYC? If so, let me know where please, I'll even buy you a pack for the heds up.

Shy - Yup, they are proper PG Tips too, not the via Egypt crap like the cadburys chocolate. ( not that there is anything wrong with Egypt, apart from the bad cadburys).

Ahhh i was talking about PG... dunno about Hobnobs.. but as Rogue said, just gotta look in the right place I reckon..!

mechabot 01 · Post by **mechabot 01** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:15 am

I can get em from the 'english store' for like $12 but I'm not a mug, and I kinda take offense to the 'I'm really from Kingston but pretend I'm from south london coz it makes me ard innit' twats that run the store.

They also run a chippy, suasage in batter for $8, me thinks not, I did go for it once and it tasted like rabid goat cack. (not that I have tasted rabid goat cack but I've got a good imagination).

When I first moved here I went and splurged, 2 crunchies, cadbury's cream egg, weetabix, 4 bags of walkers and some other bits, it came to like $45. I'm all for treating myself but that's taking the piss, especially if it was to be a weekly habit.

Suprisingly enough, in Jersey ( and suburbia in general) the supermarkets usually have a good selection for a decent price. Bisto, colmans mustard, yes fuckin yes bruv. Only thing I havn't been able to find is Paxo sage n onion stuffing, but never fear, my mum is bringing over a stash of it when she comes for xmas.

Anyways, I think I've probly nabbed around 15 (use every tune) plug ins from CM over the years, little duck, green machine, fromage etc etc etc. Used tons of the samples from the mag too. How to guides are always a positive thing, whatever they are for. I've never understood xenephobia within music scenes, more the merrier innit.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:46 am

the best thing about this forum is that there's 1000 people dying to call you elitist for anything and everything. FFS people! i think its depressing when creative people need a magazine to connect the dots for them! what happened to experimentation? what happened to trial and error? its this whole fast track thinking that really underscores the world we live in and the reason why art and artforms are constantly exploited by the media and their systems. everyone wants to be amazing at everything immediately without putting in the work....without finding things out for themselves...without making the necessary mistakes in order to push your output in the right direction.

why is that so fucking hard to understand? fuck all these self help magazines! make music for yourself. make creative mistakes for yourself. if a company made a diy magazine, spelling out in detail the fast track to mediocrity and blandness, i could count on the fact that someone in here would be defending it, and then calling someone else an elitist in about 30secs flat. jokes.

mechabot 01 · Post by **mechabot 01** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:23 am

I guess we're going for 20 'pages then...

Seckle - No disrespect at all, your a mod on this site but I gotta disagree with you, this is a discussion board after all so let's do it.

Every edm genre (pretty much) has had a 'guide to' in a magazine, who really has the right to say it's wrong. People hearing this music and wanting to get into production can learn a lot from guidance, wether it's me taking the time to give people help or hints or advice in the production forum (having 12 + plus years of proffesional production experience) or it's a magazine giving up pages in something that is designed to appeal to it's market of choice.

Can you explain to me, what is the difference between someone asking a production question on the production forum on the site that you mod on, to a magazine printing advice to up and coming producers. Yeah it's a basic template, just like you find in every sequencer on the market, are you telling me you throw all vst's out the window and program the algorythms yourself, I don't think so. Everyone needs help in someway, there is always someone more knowledgable than ourselves, whats the harm in learning from them. I know pletny of people that code there own plug ins fom scratch and even vsti's, that doesnt make them any better of a producer than those that don't or any more of an artist than those that don't.

Art has no boundaries or rules, anyone that inflicts them so is in fact an enemy of art or a hinderance at best..

Nobody gets in a car and suddenly knows how to drive, we learn from someone or something else. Then we pass our test and we gain our own set of experiences and that defines wether we are a good or bad driver.

Standard!

Now can someone for the love of god tell me where to get Hobnobs from in brooklyn!!!

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:19 am

the cheapest place to get PG tips in NYC is the patel bros. grocery. the badboy, don dada, only-mala-and-joe-have-this-on-dub one is on 74th in Jackson heights. the I-saw-skream-and/or-benga-cane-this-tune-it's-baaad location is on main st. in flushing, just off the 7. There's also a I-hear-those-guys-in-NYC-cut-this one on Newark ave in JC, right by the sabzi mandi.

yeah that's right-- desi dudes know their PG Tips!

Otherwise, if you want to innovate, you'll innovate, regardless of whether or not there's a magazine out there giving you hints to get along your way. I've saved myself from re-inventing the wheel many a time by doing research; i've also convinced myself that THIS is the RIGHT way to do something (inevitably not being the right way) from doing the same.

me, i'm more of a coffee guy. Though I am a fan of green tea and analog-filtered hihats.

SHAFEY · Post by **SHAFEY** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:50 am

seckle wrote:the best thing about this forum is that there's 1000 people dying to call you elitist for anything and everything. FFS people! i think its depressing when creative people need a magazine to connect the dots for them! what happened to experimentation? what happened to trial and error? its this whole fast track thinking that really underscores the world we live in and the reason why art and artforms are constantly exploited by the media and their systems. everyone wants to be amazing at everything immediately without putting in the work....without finding things out for themselves...without making the necessary mistakes in order to push your output in the right direction.

why is that so fucking hard to understand? fuck all these self help magazines! make music for yourself. make creative mistakes for yourself. if a company made a diy magazine, spelling out in detail the fast track to mediocrity and blandness, i could count on the fact that someone in here would be defending it, and then calling someone else an elitist in about 30secs flat. jokes.

Creative people don't need the dots joined up for them at all, and by the sounds of it, that isn't what this tutorial does - From what people have said, it would seem like the article is to help people be creative, not hinder it. Creativity does need a starting point, sometimes it can't just happen magically.

You make it sound like someone is less of a producer if they read things like this. How does Skream make wicked tunes? Partly because he is fucking sick and probably naturally creative/musical, but also I would think because he learnt aspects of production at college.

Just because a music mag is giving people a basic guidline/starting point, doesn't mean people won't be experimenting and making mistakes. If anything there is going to be more of both!

To say that this is another example of the modern-day 'I want everything right now but don't want to work for it' attitude is a bit extreme. This is a very targeted magazine that will be bought/read by people with a very specific interest in music production. It's not brainwashing the world to try and make dubstep.

Oh, and I'm not dying to call you elitist. I just don't agree with your comments on a discussion board.

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