Cubase, VSTs, and Edirol UA-4fx

shig · Post by **shig** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 2:46 am

Hi guys thanks for taking the time to read this, I have a strange problem which I've been trying to sort out on and off for 2 hours now, I've searched around google and the forum and I can't find anything that's related to my specific problem, so...

I basically thought I'd try cubase instead of my typical Logic, and I got it all up and running, using an Edirol UA-4fx as a sound card and a microkorg as a midi controller, and I loaded all my VSTs and started having a mess around with it. Like a tnuc, I broke the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' rule, and I started fiddling with the device settings further. here's some helpful print screens to aid my description:

The drop down menu on the VST audio system has the ASIO option, and my soundcard. I chose my soundcard, which I think is what would allow me to hear the VSTs through my soundcard and not the pc speakers (tho i'm not a pro so im not really sure) and was presented with a different set of options than what you can see on the image. There was a buffer rate, which was set at minimum, and I bumped it up to maximum, then cubase crashed. When I went back on, all my driver settings had reset, and when I did them all and got back to the VST audio system part again, every time I tried to set it to the edirol, I got the message:

'can not found a device. please connect a device.'

complete with terrible grammar.

Now I can use the Microsoft wavetable synth fine, MIDI is not a problem, but when I load any VST, although the input level on cubase is showing something, I get no feedback, and the audio level on my sound card is dead. i'm pretty certain all my connections are fine:

this is frustrating as fuck so anyone who can help it would be much appreciated.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:00 am

turn on your vst output like you have your input turned on in 2nd pic

shig · Post by **shig** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 3:13 am

if you mean tick the 'online' box, that makes no difference :/ I forgot to mention, i posted that pic because the self test thing just keeps going into infinity... just emphasising the fact that somethings fucked.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 4:11 am

Shig wrote:if you mean tick the 'online' box, that makes no difference :/ I forgot to mention, i posted that pic because the self test thing just keeps going into infinity... just emphasising the fact that somethings fucked.

ah shit will try to help more tomorrow when not so tired

MidnightMassDubstep · Post by **MidnightMassDubstep** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:17 pm

I have this exact same problem would be eternally grateful if someone could fix (:

ketamine · Post by **ketamine** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:20 pm

Shig wrote: basically thought I'd try cubase instead of my typical Logic,.

This is where you went wrong.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:00 pm

fuck i know i posted the fix to this in another thread
just woke up from a nap lemme find my sx3 power book and dig it out for you

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Mon Jan 05, 2009 11:36 pm

program files>steinberg>ASIO>wpsetup.exe i think should be the fix

MidnightMassDubstep · Post by **MidnightMassDubstep** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:26 am

Fucking cracked version doesn't have it >.<

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:58 pm

DJPavillion wrote:Fucking cracked version doesn't have it >.<

yes it does

MidnightMassDubstep · Post by **MidnightMassDubstep** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:59 pm

Not mine dude

shig · Post by **shig** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:14 pm

Deadly Habit wrote:program files>steinberg>ASIO>wpsetup.exe i think should be the fix

okay, so I turned on cubase today and before I even had a chance to do that, I was able to reassign the VST audio system to the edirol. bingo, problem solved, EXCEPT now my soundcard isn't picking anything up

the levels are dancing around on the sequencer, but I'm not getting any sound back, despite the settings being the same as they were when I made the thread. Is there something I'm missing? I swear, I'm just not meant to use cubase.

thanks a lot for your help so far, deadly habit.

shig · Post by **shig** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 9:30 pm

fuck this, I unplugged everything and started again and now the soundcard works but cubase crashes every time I try to load it

I can't even say it's a shitty piece of software cause I never had the chance to use the fucker

I'm going back to logic. thanks to everyone with some sage words of advice.

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:30 pm

is it cubase sx2 or sx3 cause i've had very few issues with those
far as srudio 4 no experience with it yet as i'm a cheap bastard

shig · Post by **shig** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:25 pm

hey, i'm a cheap bastard too, it's a cracked version which explains all the crashes but my main concern is that if my soundcard works the sequencer doesn't, and vice versa.

it's cubase studio 4. I think my sound card isn't picking up MIDI now, because it's not reading it in cake walk either. I haven't tried it on logic yet because I'm a bit cba about moving all my gear upstairs :p

macc · Post by **macc** » Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:49 pm

ALWAYS use your soundcard's dedicated driver (the UA-4X driver), not the generic ASIO Duplex that it gives you as an option. If it asks you to do the test ('the audio configuration has changed' or whatever it is when it starts up), don't bother, ignore the warning, choose your dedicated soundcard driver. Set the buffer length/latency in your soundcard's control panel to something reasonable.

If you're saying that the meters are jumping about in cubase but you don't hear anything, that is because Cubase is sending the audio to the wrong place. Press F4 and choose the output tab, then select the appropriate hardware output from the options your soundcard provides.

It's nothing to do with VST System Link - that is about using two computers in synchronisation together. Forget that entirely.

Hope this helps

EDIT - btw I don't think there's ever been a working crack of C4, any version of it. Steinberg are rather proud of that...

deadly_habit · Post by **deadly_habit** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:05 am

yea as far as i know no cracked working 100% studio 4

symbl · Post by **symbl** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:14 am

Your first mistake is trying to substitute that bloated steinberg app for Logic.

macc · Post by **macc** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:21 am

Oh fer chrissakes

shig · Post by **shig** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:26 am

SymbL wrote:Your first mistake is trying to substitute that bloated steinberg app for Logic.

I just wanted to check out some of the other sequencers available, but I'm starting to regret ever trying this because I literally am not able to send or recieve MIDI any more

it's not a setting on my soundcard that I've missed cause I've checked everything, and it's not the sequencer cause I've tried both computers now, as well as reason, logic, cakewalk and FL; none of them pick up anything. I'm gonna try a friends controller tomorrow.

Thanks to everyone who posted for the help and advice.

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