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otzem · Post by **otzem** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:25 pm

hello.. im new in the forum and in producing dubstep aand im using reason 4 and I'm quite pleased with the kicks and bass loops i create, but i can't figure out how to add some nice effects and stuff.. I'm using mostly the subtractor for creating wobbles and i'll give u a sample of what I created yesterday.. I think its good but please tell me if I did something wrong or didnt add something.. and if there are any ppl in the forum who use reason 4 who can help me with the program please say your opinions

Thank you.

the link with the sample: http://www.divshare.com/download/6312769-971

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:33 pm

i'll knock up a basic wobble in thor using the fm osc, can get some real nice wobs with those and upload shortly

forget subtractor, learn thor!!!!!!

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:56 pm

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=5a27 ... aec95189f8

have a go with that, its about as basic as it gets and is nothing special, but should be quite clear how i got it on the go

stick with thor man, such a sick synth

otzem · Post by **otzem** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:00 pm

ya thanx.. well I haven't used thor before but yesterday I did a quite nice bass with it.. yea u're right its way better than subtractor.. I think i'll be using only thor in the future.. and what about my sample track ? is it bad, is it good? thanks

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:46 pm

Otzem wrote:ya thanx.. well I haven't used thor before but yesterday I did a quite nice bass with it.. yea u're right its way better than subtractor.. I think i'll be using only thor in the future.. and what about my sample track ? is it bad, is it good? thanks

i like it, hats could be a bit brighter, but liked it all the same

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:04 pm

I disagree. (I would cuz I'm a tnuc hehe)

Learn the basics on the Subtractor, then get funky with the Malstrom. Only if you really need to would I reach for Thor.

The learning curve on Thor is higher if your new to synthesis, so why complicate things unnecessarily?

The Subtractor can make some sick sounds anyway, so it's not the worst synth to learn to use. As well as standard effects, pads and basses, Subtractor is excellent for organ and glockenspiel sounds!

If you truely want sick sounds at your finger tips, invest some time in creating combinator patches.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:35 pm

futures_untold wrote:I disagree. (I would cuz I'm a tnuc hehe)

Learn the basics on the Subtractor, then get funky with the Malstrom. Only if you really need to would I reach for Thor.

The learning curve on Thor is higher if your new to synthesis, so why complicate things unnecessarily?

The Subtractor can make some sick sounds anyway, so it's not the worst synth to learn to use. As well as standard effects, pads and basses, Subtractor is excellent for organ and glockenspiel sounds!

If you truely want sick sounds at your finger tips, invest some time in creating combinator patches.

bare it in mind that these comments are from some one who, and i quote "cant stand reason 4"

yes subtractor and malstrom are good synths, and i see what you are saying, learn the basics. but the basics can be learned on any synth

subtractor and malstrom are simply old hat now, and are totally weak stood up next to the mighty thor

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:45 pm

Well quoted! You've caught me out......

But putting that aside, I still reckon Thor is overly complex to learn on. (While I recognise it is easily the best featured synth in Reason)

I'm mean sine waves are a bit old hat now, but people still love feelin' em!

Tell ya what, let's have a patch contest!

You name me a sound, and I'll achieve it using a subtractor or a Malstrom!

flateric · Post by **flateric** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:48 pm

futures_untold wrote: You name me a sound, and I'll achieve it using a subtractor or a Malstrom!

The entire audio track from the film "the sound of music".

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:50 pm

lol

One sec

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:51 pm

---> http://isohunt.com/release/114340/music

This is my resynthesised version using only the subtractor and the vocoder.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:01 pm

futures_untold wrote:You name me a sound, and I'll achieve it using a subtractor or a Malstrom!

http://rapidshare.com/files/183230780/Sound_1.wav.html

not the beats obvoiusly, but the bass, go on son, you re-create that in malstrom or subtractor

once you have, you can send the patch over to me

flateric · Post by **flateric** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:04 pm

futures_untold wrote:---> http://isohunt.com/release/114340/music

This is my resynthesised version using only the subtractor and the vocoder.

Well you fail. I asked for the entire audio track, not the OST.

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:06 pm

flateric wrote:
futures_untold wrote:---> http://isohunt.com/release/114340/music

This is my resynthesised version using only the subtractor and the vocoder.

Well you fail. I asked for the entire audio track, not the OST.

no you fail, he said a single sound

otzem · Post by **otzem** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:13 pm

darkmatterUK wrote:
i like it, hats could be a bit brighter, but liked it all the same

well I agree about the hats but umm.. but when they're too 'bright' they sound kinda strange to me.. idk i'll see what I can do. About the thor, yea I think you can get pretty cool sounds with it but its kinda hard.. that won't be a problem for me anyway, ill learn how to use it. And what's that combiner about? I can't figure out what it does

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:19 pm

Otzem wrote:what's that combiner about? I can't figure out what it does

it combines things, you got a copy of that patch i uploaded right?

well that was a combinator patch, you can basically go from having one synth, to a chain of synths in one. a super synth if you like.

or effects, combine the effects devices, possibilitys are endless with the combinator.

i stick everything in a combinator these days

EDIT:- sorry that was poorly explained

open a new reason project, select a combinator, you will see a dark space along the bottom of the device, right click in that dark patch and then select a mixer, right click again and select a synth

now you have combined something, and you can just keep going from there really

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:22 pm

darkmatterUK wrote: i stick everything in a combinator these days

Same.

It also keeps the rack clean!Makes shit so much easier to find spesh when you got like 5 samplers, 5 malstroms, a few thors and a subtractor plus all linking to EQs, verbs, phasers an filters!

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:25 pm

Legendary wrote:
darkmatterUK wrote: i stick everything in a combinator these days
Same.

It also keeps the rack clean!Makes shit so much easier to find spesh when you got like 5 samplers, 5 malstroms, a few thors and a subtractor plus all linking to EQs, verbs, phasers an filters!

yea absolutely, just name each one as soon as you have what you want in it, so much easier

futures_untold · Post by **futures_untold** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:28 pm

darkmatterUK wrote:
futures_untold wrote:You name me a sound, and I'll achieve it using a subtractor or a Malstrom!
http://rapidshare.com/files/183230780/Sound_1.wav.html

not the beats obvoiusly, but the bass, go on son, you re-create that in malstrom or subtractor

once you have, you can send the patch over to me

Subtractor for this one...

Process:

Make hoover.

Tie filter to LFO.

5 mins with a Subtractor. (Notes recorded, but no controls are automated)
http://rapidshare.com/files/183243099/F ... _.wav.html

The reason file so you can see fo yo delves (mofos

)
http://rapidshare.com/files/183243013/F ... _.rns.html

darkmatteruk · Post by **darkmatteruk** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 6:32 pm

ive got to admit mate, to me that doesnt sound an awful lot different to the init patch

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