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azair · Post by **azair** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:19 pm

Hi all.

For quite some time I've been making music in Logic which I still love, but I would like to try some DJing out, where to start? My budget is pretty low, but I'm open for advices, not sure if I need vinyl or CD turntables yet, vinyl is too expensive I think..

I want to spin dubstep and hip hop, especially some oldskool hip hop.

lewisr · Post by **lewisr** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:26 pm

you could get ableton and a novation nocturn contoller

azair · Post by **azair** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:29 pm

Sure, interesting, can you tell me more about it?

azair · Post by **azair** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:29 pm

Sure, interesting, can you tell me more about it?

lewisr · Post by **lewisr** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:40 pm

Ableton is software, Its a DAW so you can use it to produce as well as your logic.

you can import full tracks (.wav or .mp3) and the beat match them so that they play in time with eatch other etc.. loads of effects, all together a really popwerful user friendly package.

you can get the demo off the ableton site probably. youll get an idea of what it can do far better like that.

As for the nocturn..

Just a midi controller with a crossfader... sexy

The novation and ableton websites will tell you far more than i could.

Easy

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:59 pm

ya could get a demo off virtual dj for now

danny stamp · Post by **danny stamp** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:39 pm

There's another thread here in Production on Ableton (not the Ableton Live 8 one). I've posted some guides right at the end.

It's awesome software. It's all I've ever used for DJ sets. Feel free to shoot away with questions when you're starting, but do check that other thread! I've linked to forums which specialise in it.

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:26 pm

vinyl will always be the most fun, but yr right: it's expensive.

the cost of starting up a setup, be it cdjs or turntables, is pretty much the same.

serato is a great tool, rock-solid and always getting updated. Considering that they and ableton are releasing something together this year-- should be big.

gwa · Post by **gwa** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:01 pm

Wachs Lyrical wrote:I know that in America everyone uses Serato but in the UK a lot of people rock Traktor by Native Instruments.

I have found it reliable 100% of the time.
Then get yourself their external soundcard and some decks and you away. Never have to buy another track again

I use Traktor and a Numark Total Control (Yeah its Numark, but it was made with NI and it pretty much mimmicks the layout of traktor.) and it's fucking sick. You can get a package for about 220 with the controller, headphones and a soundcard. Plus Traktor 3LE comes with it.

azair · Post by **azair** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:32 am

Alright thanks everyone. I'll try out the Serato Scratch software for now. If we talk equipment, what should I look for?

abZ · Post by **abZ** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 4:41 pm

Depone wrote:This- http://www.serato.com/scratchlive

Get some decks, and a laptop. and you wont have to pay for vinyl, just buy tracks from digital tunes/beatport etc and your away!

Just spend about 4 grand and your good to go!

If you are starting from scratch I would defo look into Traktor or Ableton. Controllers are even optional in one of these set ups.

caeraphym · Post by **caeraphym** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:06 pm

Traktor Scratch Pro or STFU.

chrish · Post by **chrish** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:17 pm

M-Audio makes Torq & a dedicated mixing controller, the xponent. I have Torq & love it, I have never used the xponent but I know several that have & they all give it great reviews.

http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=pro ... mily&ID=dj

boyd · Post by **boyd** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:03 pm

I chose the good old vinyl route having just started a few months ago. Grown to love it, but certainly isn't a cheap hobby.

Really enjoy getting tunes on release you can't always find on mp3 though, it's opened my eyes to whole new parts of the scene/new artists/labels etc. And rinsed my student loan.

About serato - are you basically just limited to you and your mates' tunes, plus 320s you can legally get on the net, and tunes ripped from CDs? I swear most of the tunes I've bought on vinyl you can't get (legit) 320's of.

chrish · Post by **chrish** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:24 pm

boyd wrote:I chose the good old vinyl route having just started a few months ago. Grown to love it, but certainly isn't a cheap hobby.

Really enjoy getting tunes on release you can't always find on mp3 though, it's opened my eyes to whole new parts of the scene/new artists/labels etc. And rinsed my student loan.

About serato - are you basically just limited to you and your mates' tunes, plus 320s you can legally get on the net, and tunes ripped from CDs? I swear most of the tunes I've bought on vinyl you can't get (legit) 320's of.

If you have a stereo soundcard you can record the vinyl to MP3 using Audacity or another wave editor type program & then you have legit MP3's of the vinyl, and the records stay in perfect condition........

Coppola · Post by **Coppola** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:28 pm

ChrisH wrote:
boyd wrote:I chose the good old vinyl route having just started a few months ago. Grown to love it, but certainly isn't a cheap hobby.

Really enjoy getting tunes on release you can't always find on mp3 though, it's opened my eyes to whole new parts of the scene/new artists/labels etc. And rinsed my student loan.

About serato - are you basically just limited to you and your mates' tunes, plus 320s you can legally get on the net, and tunes ripped from CDs? I swear most of the tunes I've bought on vinyl you can't get (legit) 320's of.
If you have a stereo soundcard you can record the vinyl to MP3 using Audacity or another wave editor type program & then you have legit MP3's of the vinyl, and the records stay in perfect condition........

legit? yeah...

chrish · Post by **chrish** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 2:20 am

BEN? wrote:
ChrisH wrote:
boyd wrote:I chose the good old vinyl route having just started a few months ago. Grown to love it, but certainly isn't a cheap hobby.

Really enjoy getting tunes on release you can't always find on mp3 though, it's opened my eyes to whole new parts of the scene/new artists/labels etc. And rinsed my student loan.

About serato - are you basically just limited to you and your mates' tunes, plus 320s you can legally get on the net, and tunes ripped from CDs? I swear most of the tunes I've bought on vinyl you can't get (legit) 320's of.
If you have a stereo soundcard you can record the vinyl to MP3 using Audacity or another wave editor type program & then you have legit MP3's of the vinyl, and the records stay in perfect condition........
legit? yeah...

How is it any less legit then ripping an MP3 from a CD that you purchased?

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