£250 quid studio..

lewisr · Post by **lewisr** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:50 pm

Hello,

A mate of mine is getting into production, he has 250 quid to spend on a studio. He has albino and ableton already, and ive copied him my entire sample collection. other than that he has nothing.

Heres the list that ive given him, Can anyone think of any changes to this list?

Monitors - studiospares SN10's £100 copies of the yamaha Ns10's but from the reviews ive read there even better (they have bigger drivers, 8" instead of 6")

Controller - M Audio Oxygen midi man 8 V2 £50

Interface esi u24 xl - £75 mark

Headphones - Fostex T5 (£35)

Not bad for 250 quid eh?

Cheers

pyro_racy · Post by **pyro_racy** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:54 pm

that good if he can fork out the extra tenner

http://solodeals.com/MAudio-Oxygen-49-K ... e-GB&id=uk

this ive been using since last november, works a treat

lewisr · Post by **lewisr** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:00 pm

Depone wrote:ooohhh..... those sn10's suck serious balls. Had them in my old college and sounded nothing like NS10's. Stay away from them if you can

Thanks, Ill see if i can find him somehting better..

Might mean not getting the interface and headphones and getting much better monitors instead.

Thanks for the heads up.

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:06 pm

its gonna be a pretty shite studio for that, should save up more money and get better stuff then just buying the shit low end things personal opinon tho

thecatinside · Post by **thecatinside** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:11 pm

"Buy cheap buy twice". How about getting the midi keyboard and some proper headphones first and putting away what's left of the 250£ in order to get a better monitors or a soundcard later?

I've made few hasty investments and learnt that it's better to be patient and save save save and save some more to get the stuff I want than to settle with cheaper 'almost as good'-option which I'll end up hating later..

legend4ry · Post by **legend4ry** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:21 pm

First things first.....

Maybe he should just produce on shit stuff to see if hes gunna stick at it? No point buying stuff even if it is.. 'cheap' as people are saying, an just get some budget headphones and get a phono > Jack wire, link up hifi-speakers and just use that until he knows that he likes it enough to call it a hobby THEN invest money?

I mean, some people start it and then lose interest in it.. no point splashing out 250 quid, unless thats pennies to him? I for one wouldn't spend 250 quid unless I know I was gunna use it at least once a week..

I didn't even buy a midi keyboard until like.. a year into it.. monitors 2 years..

mandark · Post by **mandark** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:12 pm

The_Dza88 wrote:its gonna be a pretty shite studio for that, should save up more money and get better stuff then just buying the shit low end things personal opinon tho

Don't know where you get that from mate, talent > gear always. In my opinion killer tracks can be made with a decent computer with good software and a nice pair of cans.

On that point, monitors might not be the best idea if you're starting out. I'd recommend a nice pair of studio headphones instead. The reason being both price and the fact that a room that's not properly set-up can cause odd phasing and reverb. Macc himself said he prefers using headphones to master as opposed to monitors if he doesn't have a properly set-up room. Sometimes just egg cartons just won't do it either!

Also, go for a cheap, small and dependable keyboard. You'll rarely need more than a couple of octaves for composing bass tunes and the price and portability (especially if you want to use it in a live situation later) is well worth it.

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:30 pm

its called a personal opinion

its what i think so i didnt get it from anywhere mate
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mandark · Post by **mandark** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:41 pm

Yeah, there's a wide range of opinions on this. The only reason I said that was because I wouldn't want a newcomer to production to get caught up in purchasing expensive gear from the get-go. If he likes it in a few months / years he can get crotchety and gear-addicted like the rest of us

__________ · Post by **__________** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 9:56 pm

LewisR wrote:he has 250 quid to spend on a studio

you're more likely to get a good car than a good studio for that price, pard.

i'd spend that dollar on a good set of headphones and a legal copy of FL Studio/Ableton/etc. i reckon most people would agree with me.

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:22 pm

That does look pretty good for 250 quid i wont deny that...

Have to agree with a few others though there is absolutely no point in your mate forking out that kinda money if he's just starting producing:

a) He might not actually like it as much as he thinks he will

b) Beginners need little more than a pair of headphones/alright speakers, reason/ableton/cubase/acid (swatched for free off a torrent) to start making beats

c) If he does get right in about it straight away all hes gona do is want to get better gear - surely its better off to start with something really basic and cheap then once they know theyre interested in it save up n buy decent gear.

d) unless he plans to take his keyboard on the train with him to work i'd strongly suggest getting a 48 key one, those little ones are a pain in the tits.

stapleface · Post by **stapleface** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:27 pm

i beg to differ about the mini keyboards- the little ones are just as playable in my experience
it really isn't worth investing your money like that though

as previously said, investing in decent audioware (headphones/speakers) and getting hold of a DAW will probably be a better investment

miscreant · Post by **miscreant** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:29 pm

Stapleface wrote:i beg to differ about the mini keyboards- the little ones are just as playable in my experience
it really isn't worth investing your money like that though

as previously said, investing in decent audioware (headphones/speakers) and getting hold of a DAW will probably be a better investment

I dont see the point in getting a wee one unless your travelling with it. For improvisation its so much better having the extra keys to fuck about with without having to go down an octave.

rendr · Post by **rendr** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:32 pm

I say... Start mugging old people for their pension money, then get a pair of Adam A7's and some Sennheiser HD 800 cans.

theedman · Post by **theedman** » Mon Jan 19, 2009 11:48 pm

£10 Bag wrote:
LewisR wrote:he has 250 quid to spend on a studio
you're more likely to get a good car than a good studio for that price, pard.

i'd spend that dollar on a good set of headphones and a legal copy of FL Studio/Ableton/etc. i reckon most people would agree with me.

thetaco · Post by **thetaco** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:30 am

I recommend the XXL version due to the inclusion of Sytrus and Direct Wave, but if budget limits just go for producer.

+

imo.

If he can fork out the extra $ then this too:

All you need really. In fact, it's what i'm using right now (bar the oxygen 8, I have a diff controller) with NI Komplete.

tetris · Post by **tetris** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:10 pm

If he's starting out then I'd say Decent headphones first... Creative audio do some darn good desktop speakers for under £50 with decent volume and a decent sound, he can then tidy it all up on the cans?

danny stamp · Post by **danny stamp** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:28 pm

That's a bit too cheap IMO.

Just my headphones cost half that price!

stenchman · Post by **stenchman** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:30 pm

thats as much as my pc and monitors put together, and thats all i need lol. my mate lent me a midi keyboard but i never use it.

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