DRUMMERS (a question)

jalfrezi · Post by **jalfrezi** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:49 pm

people say that reni from the stone roses was an amazing drummer, technically advanced and whatever.

i've watched a video of them and although i think the beats are cool and funky i just can't really see what makes him so much better that another drummer.

is it the little nuances that he adds? like a quick little fill or what?

i did a search on google and he was 3rd best drummer ever in a poll behind keith moon #2 (my favourite) and Art Blakey #1.

can someone explain in simple non-drummer terms why he is so respected.

EDIT i've just watched anothe video of a 'drum cover' on youtube and it does look busy, something similar to keith moon so maybe this whole thread is pointless. if it is talk about other drummers instead.

r · Post by r » Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:53 pm

your own creativity in sound uses of your drumkit.

Do you drum like a click ?

nuances of drumhits

does it all flow ?

stuff like that

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 4:23 pm

playing busy does not a good drummer make.

people really connect w/ the stone roses and the grooves are massive. that's why he's good.

jolly wailer · Post by **jolly wailer** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:02 pm

a 'good' drummer has alot more to do with the personality that comes through in the playing rather than the actual stuff that is played...

like, we're all individuals right, and we all have worth as individuals and in some senses thats like this miraculous and irreplacable thing, so like, even if I could recreate the patterns of another drummer thats beside the point, it has more to do with what a particular soul sounds like when they and only they play.. its kinda deep.

You get to a point where musical prowess or technicality becomes secondary, forgotten in favor of that intangible vibe of playing with another prson who you value and have open channels of communication with, and then through that accommodation to individuality this whole other higher level of musical brilliance is acheived.

like, its great if you're a badass on the kit, but that only goes so far.

My drum teacher was actually buddies with Art Blakey through the 50's and beyond, back when he was living in NYC, its amazing how close knit the jazz scene was, how much knowledge was running through that community of musicians, and it shows that music has a lot more to do with relationships people have with each other, its never just pure sound in a vaccuum, its intersecting with all.

from the drum and off musing on all things now.

terekete you ever do lessons bruv?

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:34 pm

^ yeah mate i'm teaching all the time these days; really enjoy it. makes you really look inside and figure out how to explain something that you've been doing for 20 years to someone who's brand new to it. There's this sense of euphoria that students get once they've gotten the hang of something-- in drumset it's the feeling of being really locked in and keeping a beat, in tabla it's geting a few basic techniques down so that you can start to play musical stuff-- really fantastic to watch.

it also makes you practice a ton, because you've gotta always be on your a game when yr teaching!!!

you playing a bunch these days my man?

inertia_dubz · Post by **inertia_dubz** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:10 am

admittedly this isnt relevant to dubstep but if u want to hear a sic drummer, the guy from protest the hero is amazing
technically complex drummer with lots of rhythm changes in addition to the time signature changes

a great influence if u ask me, for any drum sequencing, jus for ideas in progression so you arent stuck with a single drum loop thropugh all your tracks,

personally i think caspa should check him out haha

pieces.

janner · Post by **janner** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 1:03 pm

i can't believe anyone even has bare faced cheek to question Reni's drumming !!!

have you seen him play elephant stone live? that is some effing unfathomable talent. the man is all over the kit on that 16beat, giving some severe attention to the parts of the kit other drummers can't reach... that's some fairly inventive shit with the floor tom, esp circa '89, all while singing a lot better than ian!! love his mental harmonies too

imagination, the skill to execute, the sickest of groove and massive improv abilities

he is a don

djake · Post by **djake** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 2:54 pm

Dave Grohl should go back to playing drums!

oh and nirvana should come back aswell

janner · Post by **janner** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:10 pm

djake wrote:Dave Grohl should go back to playing drums

you're taking the piss

but

http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/ ... bum-179962

jalfrezi · Post by **jalfrezi** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:51 pm

Janner wrote:i can't believe anyone even has bare faced cheek to question Reni's drumming !!!

have you seen him play elephant stone live? that is some effing unfathomable talent. the man is all over the kit on that 16beat, giving some severe attention to the parts of the kit other drummers can't reach... that's some fairly inventive shit with the floor tom, esp circa '89, all while singing a lot better than ian!! love his mental harmonies too

imagination, the skill to execute, the sickest of groove and massive improv abilities

he is a don

ok I watched it and I do get what you mean now. i think its the same as a guitar player - i can see how good someone is because i know what they are doing. as much as i love drums my knowledge is really limited to chopping up breaks and looking at a matrix editor. i didn't realise the groove was what made him great. a lot like def leppard i spose.

gh02 · Post by **gh02** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:59 pm

Reni is a God ... nuff said

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