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Post by alien pimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:39 am

dubluke wrote:relax dude its just fucking flouride
relaxation because fluoride and ritaline and prozac made americans owe 40.000 USD each to other countries, 10.000 of these only to china
relaxation made usa and uk the biggest intelligence importers
relaxation brought cctv in hostel rooms in london and no flight lists in us
relaxation put fluoride in french salt
relaxation will kill you as it criminalised nutrients and vitamins

i have better ways to relax and with much better results
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Post by slim » Sun Jan 25, 2009 1:49 am

My last point on this because frankly i can't be fucked anymore

Mentioning Fluoxetine and Sarin shows a fairly horrendous misunderstanding of chemistry.

The fluorine molecule in fluoxetine (not going to give it its brand name as i am no more a fan of the pharmaceutical industry's questionable ethics as i imagine your are) is bound to carbon, so in no way resembles a free fluoride ion. If it was there to dissociate away and cause havoc in the body i would take your point, but the very reason it is there is to make the molecule more stable, as the carbon - fluorine bond is extremely stable. This prevents the liver from metabolising it too quickly, meaning that less of the drug needs to be given.

Sarin works by inhibiting enzymes in your synapses that allow recycling of a neurotransmitter called acetylcholine, as far as i know the fluorine part doesn't actually work on the enzyme itself, but i could be wrong.

I'm obviously not arguing from total ignorance here, and if tomorrow a credible paper comparing areas with fluoride in their water with areas that don't is published, and finds any detriment of health that can be linked to fluoride poisoning, i will totally accept that point of view, but internet speculation and passionate argument are no match for scientific evidence, imperfect, at times, though it may be.

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Post by alien pimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:02 am

well than those people who said that might not know what you know, but from my experience here i'd rather go with them

so let's say all about the gas is bullshit

how come this is all you talk about from what i wrote and nothing else caught your attention?

always go for the papers man, they are independent, they don't care about money, they only look after your interest, so they are the best information source! just like the politicians!

and, of course, the tv!
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Post by jah know » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:09 am

My money goes on the Mayan calendar. Until you've studied it and understand the math and principles around it. STFU.

End of world is what the scared masses want to call it, but how bout 'the end of the great cycle'. 12-21-2012 at 12:23 am (my b-day btw)

Here's what I don't get. Everyone puts 'new age' in there to try and define these ideologies, but there's nothing new about it at all. It's about 26,000 yrs old in fact. If anything is new it's peoples idea that they can live through anything and that the world is just fine the way it is. Humans are fetuses that haven't even been born into the realm of true consciousness.
Herb never solved the world's problems, but then again, neither has milk.

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Post by alien pimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:28 am

Jah Know wrote: If anything is new it's peoples idea that they can live through anything and that the world is just fine the way it is. Humans are fetuses that haven't even been born into the realm of true consciousness.
haven't dug the mayan story enough, but the above are true for sure
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Post by ajantis_art » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:02 pm

not really sure about any of it tbh. my best mate nows a group of hippie/triphead types who have bought an old bunker underneath some theatre in london. apparently they're inviting selected people to join them. people who they think can maintain the species or some shit. people with the ability to synthesize hallucinogenics i reckon :|

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Post by alien pimp » Sun Jan 25, 2009 3:54 pm

they might be for real, they might be silly, but what's the point to extend that to other people that seem to have a similar-but-not-quite perspective of the future?!

again ungrounded convictions?

people lost many good habits last 50 years, including logical thinking...
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