Wow i'm seriously desperate for help.

[acrap]

get the fuck out of here with that shitty ass song and your bullshit negativity you miserable prick

dafuq mate, why so harsh?

after reading this thread all i can tell you is: listen, listen, listen. listen to tons of music with GOOD headphones/speakers, til you start noticing all the little details, til the patterns emerge from the chaos, til you can listen to the same tune 4 times in a row each time focusing on a different thing and every time you'll find new stuff you didnt notice before.
maybe weed will help you reach that state. take notes, and listen listen listen until it starts being like that all the time.
at the same time experiment with effects like phasers, filters, compressors, delays, reverbs et cetera til you can be in a club dancing your ass off drunk as fuck but at the same time your brain starts separating the different layers of the bass and you start hearing the effects used.
you might get to a point where everything you hear sounds predictable and boring, and that can be depressing but you'll get over it. switch genres for a while, listen to stuff you never liked with your new pair of ears and try to understand the patterns and rules of other styles, then apply them to the music you make in a way that it still sounds like your favorite tunes but fresh and different.

but the most important part: patience. what you're trying to do is basically rewiring your brain and that won't happen overnight. it'll take a few years but trust me it pays off if you don't give up.

i've heard this advice from so many people on here so it must have some truth. I really must start listening to other genres of music but where to begin? should the genres of music be somehow rhythmically related to the music that i'm trying to produce? i dont wanna be pick up just any genre and mind you that i'm honestly just doing this because you guys said it'd help because i'm perfectly content just listening to brostep but if i dont take advice from people on here who have been doing this longer than i have then i'd be foolish. i wouldnt mind picking up a new genre but i'd like some reccomendations if possible? do you guys mean just listen to ALL music ? cant smoke weed by the way i get tested weekly cause i'm out on bond :/. Great info man cheers thanks for your time

[jrisreal]

Just listen to stuff you enjoy...don't force anything on yourself with music. I really like hiphop, dnb, house, and I like anything melodic and full of emotion. Just listen to what you like. Produce when you are inspired to. Don't force any of it.

[-[2]DAY_-]

dude try listening to what you like
if you ONLY like brostep.... then i just don't know what to say. if thats the case there really is something wrong with the state of music and young people these days. Weren't you ever into rock? jazz, punk rock, blues, reggae.. classical? ragtime.. opera... hip hop... soul music.....
I mean theres so much out there. Listening, even passively, without TRYING to learn, just does something to your brain. It introduces more information ,more possibilities, and you'll start to understand what makes a piece of music have structure. understanding things like intro, A section, B section, bridge (AKA "drop", "breakdown" etc) and picking up on things like... many pieces of music are arranged in an ABAA format, or ABABC for instance... stuff liek that doesn't come from a 400 page book OR a video tutorial. it comes from understanding music, and understanding what it is you're trying to create is a statement of musical information. There are effective weays of doing it. you leanr then by listening.
there's a quote -- "No one creates in a vacuum". if you're isolated from other stuff, out in space, nothing can get in and plant seeds for your musical development.

anyway tl;dr. the short answer is if you wanna make dubstep, listen to DUB, REGGAE, and UK GARAGE! no?

[acrap]

Well i'm not gonna lie i have learned quite a bit of music theory since i last spoke about it. i know how to construct a minor scale and construct triad chord scales using a minor scale. i know diminished chords, major and minor chords and some progression. i think i need to learn some harmony as well but i havent gotten to that yet. I used to like alot of alternative rock and trance but when i was introduced to "brostep" i fell absolutely in love with it. I just love huge sounds and the aggressiveness of it i really cant explain why i love it so much but yeah it may be trendy now but it doesnt mean it isnt music and shouldnt be pursued. I wanna make the most disgusting pieces of shit sounds and mix them in with a beautiful womans voice or a harmonious melody because they sound fantastic together in my opinion. Dont get me wrong i also love to move people and get praise for a piece of work that i'm proud of. Thats why i'm always talking about making big tunes that people would like. Thats a major reason why i'm doing all of this. I love having the ability of moving peoples emotions. I have a feeling that most people have a wrong misconception of me or just for the genre in general.

[hasezwei]

well... do you like drum n bass? it's actually where a lot of the first brosteppers have their sounds from.

it can be really narsty



this stuff is called jump-up or "clownstep" which was already a deragory term before most people even knew dubstep existed lol


then theres neurofunk which at the mo is the cutting edge when it comes to sounddesign, and a lot of it is really atmospheric too. from a producer's standpoint one of the most interesting styles of dnb.

seriously, some sounds used in neurofunk are so fucking complex it's not funny anymore. a pain in the ass to make but oh well.

and theres a ton of other stuff, some really deep dark and minimal stuff, more ambient/laidback stuff, there's drumfunk which is requires you to be a self-indulgent breakbeat fetishist (but if you are one it's like sex trust me), there's of course horrible commercial shite that sounds like fucking electro house with boring melodies and annoying cliché female vocals and all the massive presets the kids love nowadays and probably another 20 substyles i cant be arsed to write down.

honorable mentions to rockwell and current value for having the balls to be weird as fuck though i definetly prefer rockwell.

^^^ if you like 'yoy' sounds this one will make you poop your pants


^^^ this one feels like a 2 ton heavy robot dancing shuffle on your head. in bullet time.

so yeah i hope you enjoyed at least one of the vids i tried to post only stuff that might appeal to brosteppers without sounding like sped-up brostep.

[antipode]

I'm slightly offended you just compared CV to brostep.

[hutyluty]

get the fuck out of here with that shitty ass song and your bullshit negativity you miserable prick

about time mate

dont let noone put you in a box- take em all on!

[acrap]

@hasezwei i really like that rockwell song haha but then again i guess that's obvious cause im am indeed a yoy person, and i liked the neuro funk but not as much as rockwell. thanks for taking the time to show me this man

[hasezwei]

I'm slightly offended you just compared CV to brostep.

i know, i'm sorry
but i thought the heaviness might appeal. also him and dean rodell pretty much invented the whole quarterstep thing which is basically hard as nails in your face abrasive stuff that's even slower than dubstep but definetly inspired by what we would NOT call 'proper' dubstep.

but hey this reminds me of something.... acrap, do you like broken note?

@hasezwei i really like that rockwell song haha but then again i guess that's obvious cause im am indeed a yoy person, and i liked the neuro funk but not as much as rockwell. thanks for taking the time to show me this man

hey no biggie i love showing people music

[jrisreal]

NEUROFUNK

[hasezwei]

NEUROFUNK

i still cant believe he's now doing that feed me stuff :/
i mean theres some decent feed me tunes but meh...

[acrap]

Hey guys i'd like to propose something. Its stated that all i listen to is brostep but something just crossed my mind as you started showing me different genres that might appeal to me. What is considered brostep now a days is so broad that in reality you could be listening to the same genre and not even know it. I would like to post 3 examples of 3 totally different sounding "brostep" songs which i'm in love with and would like to propose that influence can come within the genre through itself considering that its so dynamic from song to song. Don't take this time and write about how much brostep sucks because in all honesty this is my favorite genre and i'm respectful for other peoples taste. Anyway's no more blabbing you could listen to a small portion of these songs and see that in reality they're not very similar.

[ehbes]

get the fuck out of here with that shitty ass song and your bullshit negativity you miserable prick

dafuq mate, why so harsh?

after reading this thread all i can tell you is: listen, listen, listen. listen to tons of music with GOOD headphones/speakers, til you start noticing all the little details, til the patterns emerge from the chaos, til you can listen to the same tune 4 times in a row each time focusing on a different thing and every time you'll find new stuff you didnt notice before.
maybe weed will help you reach that state. take notes, and listen listen listen until it starts being like that all the time.
at the same time experiment with effects like phasers, filters, compressors, delays, reverbs et cetera til you can be in a club dancing your ass off drunk as fuck but at the same time your brain starts separating the different layers of the bass and you start hearing the effects used.
you might get to a point where everything you hear sounds predictable and boring, and that can be depressing but you'll get over it. switch genres for a while, listen to stuff you never liked with your new pair of ears and try to understand the patterns and rules of other styles, then apply them to the music you make in a way that it still sounds like your favorite tunes but fresh and different.

but the most important part: patience. what you're trying to do is basically rewiring your brain and that won't happen overnight. it'll take a few years but trust me it pays off if you don't give up.

i've heard this advice from so many people on here so it must have some truth. I really must start listening to other genres of music but where to begin? should the genres of music be somehow rhythmically related to the music that i'm trying to produce? i dont wanna be pick up just any genre and mind you that i'm honestly just doing this because you guys said it'd help because i'm perfectly content just listening to brostep but if i dont take advice from people on here who have been doing this longer than i have then i'd be foolish. i wouldnt mind picking up a new genre but i'd like some reccomendations if possible? do you guys mean just listen to ALL music ? cant smoke weed by the way i get tested weekly cause i'm out on bond :/. Great info man cheers thanks for your time

I've been getting my hands on various types of jazz and honestly, its great for inspiration if you can listen to each instrument and how they complement each other.

[JBE]

Well i'm not gonna lie i have learned quite a bit of music theory since i last spoke about it. i know how to construct a minor scale and construct triad chord scales using a minor scale. i know diminished chords, major and minor chords and some progression. i think i need to learn some harmony as well but i havent gotten to that yet. I used to like alot of alternative rock and trance but when i was introduced to "brostep" i fell absolutely in love with it. I just love huge sounds and the aggressiveness of it i really cant explain why i love it so much but yeah it may be trendy now but it doesnt mean it isnt music and shouldnt be pursued. I wanna make the most disgusting pieces of shit sounds and mix them in with a beautiful womans voice or a harmonious melody because they sound fantastic together in my opinion. Dont get me wrong i also love to move people and get praise for a piece of work that i'm proud of. Thats why i'm always talking about making big tunes that people would like. Thats a major reason why i'm doing all of this. I love having the ability of moving peoples emotions. I have a feeling that most people have a wrong misconception of me or just for the genre in general.

This post almost makes me feel like I'm being trolled. It just feels strange to me that you can say you liked Alternative Rock or Trance and as soon as you heard Brostep that was pretty much the end of everything else. I'm not even going to lie here. When I was a kid I used to stay at my grandpas house for a few hours every day after school because my mom didn't get home from work until late in the afternoon. My grandfather was a huge John Denver fan and literally owned every single one of his albums. He would play his music all the time. To this day, no matter how much I absolutely loathe country music, I still enjoy listening to a John Denver song every now and then.

To me music doesn't just die like that simply because you heard something you thought was cool. I mean sure, you'll probably have the urge to listen to that something new a lot more than everything else for awhile, but eventually that stuff that you loved before will come back.

You can't just force yourself to listen to something that you don't want to listen to. If you're not listening to it simply because you enjoy it, then any inspiration it might give will be completely useless because you'll just automatically ignore it. All the information that you're going to gather from this thread, for the most part, is going to fall entirely on deaf ears. In a week or 2 you're going to be bored from reading the books, or watching the videos. Once that happens you're going to open up your DAW, go directly to massive and begin doing EXACTLY what you did before you even started this thread. You're going to get frustrated and angry because you'll be back to making crappy loops with sample back beat loops and a bunch of sounds that don't fit together, and you're going to pound your fist on the desk and wonder why nothing works. This is called impatience. Hell, chances are you probably have a book sitting right next to you and you're thinking if I sit and read that whole thing tonight, by tomorrow I'll be able to make an awesome song. The one great thing that producing teaches you though, is how to handle disappointment. And really, a lot of aspiring producers went through exactly that. They just didn't quit.

The only thing that sets you apart right now, from someone out there that is making great music, is they kept trying. They didn't quit because of the frustration, or the anger or the disappointment of not getting the results they wanted right away. They just kept trying, studying, watching, and learning. As long as you can do that, who knows. Maybe in a couple years you'll be able to attain all those aspirations that you're seeing now.

Or maybe you'll just get shanked in prison.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

[acrap]

Well i'm not gonna lie i have learned quite a bit of music theory since i last spoke about it. i know how to construct a minor scale and construct triad chord scales using a minor scale. i know diminished chords, major and minor chords and some progression. i think i need to learn some harmony as well but i havent gotten to that yet. I used to like alot of alternative rock and trance but when i was introduced to "brostep" i fell absolutely in love with it. I just love huge sounds and the aggressiveness of it i really cant explain why i love it so much but yeah it may be trendy now but it doesnt mean it isnt music and shouldnt be pursued. I wanna make the most disgusting pieces of shit sounds and mix them in with a beautiful womans voice or a harmonious melody because they sound fantastic together in my opinion. Dont get me wrong i also love to move people and get praise for a piece of work that i'm proud of. Thats why i'm always talking about making big tunes that people would like. Thats a major reason why i'm doing all of this. I love having the ability of moving peoples emotions. I have a feeling that most people have a wrong misconception of me or just for the genre in general.

This post almost makes me feel like I'm being trolled. It just feels strange to me that you can say you liked Alternative Rock or Trance and as soon as you heard Brostep that was pretty much the end of everything else. I'm not even going to lie here. When I was a kid I used to stay at my grandpas house for a few hours every day after school because my mom didn't get home from work until late in the afternoon. My grandfather was a huge John Denver fan and literally owned every single one of his albums. He would play his music all the time. To this day, no matter how much I absolutely loathe country music, I still enjoy listening to a John Denver song every now and then.

To me music doesn't just die like that simply because you heard something you thought was cool. I mean sure, you'll probably have the urge to listen to that something new a lot more than everything else for awhile, but eventually that stuff that you loved before will come back.

You can't just force yourself to listen to something that you don't want to listen to. If you're not listening to it simply because you enjoy it, then any inspiration it might give will be completely useless because you'll just automatically ignore it. All the information that you're going to gather from this thread, for the most part, is going to fall entirely on deaf ears. In a week or 2 you're going to be bored from reading the books, or watching the videos. Once that happens you're going to open up your DAW, go directly to massive and begin doing EXACTLY what you did before you even started this thread. You're going to get frustrated and angry because you'll be back to making crappy loops with sample back beat loops and a bunch of sounds that don't fit together, and you're going to pound your fist on the desk and wonder why nothing works. This is called impatience. Hell, chances are you probably have a book sitting right next to you and you're thinking if I sit and read that whole thing tonight, by tomorrow I'll be able to make an awesome song. The one great thing that producing teaches you though, is how to handle disappointment. And really, a lot of aspiring producers went through exactly that. They just didn't quit.

The only thing that sets you apart right now, from someone out there that is making great music, is they kept trying. They didn't quit because of the frustration, or the anger or the disappointment of not getting the results they wanted right away. They just kept trying, studying, watching, and learning. As long as you can do that, who knows. Maybe in a couple years you'll be able to attain all those aspirations that you're seeing now.

Or maybe you'll just get shanked in prison.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

i agree with almost everything on here except for the fact that you're saying you find it strange that i dropped everything else once i heard brostep. Well bro thats why you're you and i'm me it happened i dont know what to say i'm sorry i guess. i just simply prefer brostep over all other previous music i heard. sure i still can listen to it but i think to myself, why? when i can listen to something that i'd like to listen to more than that. And yes i will continue to do what i did before only i will also touch up on my music theory and practice complimenting the sounds i've been able to make. either that or i'd get shanked in prison and never heard from again. cheers

[antipode]

hahaha shanked in prison. fuck off tnuc.


ps liked the first 9 seconds of that 3rd tune you posted.

[extremesociety]

get the fuck out of here with that shitty ass song and your bullshit negativity you miserable prick

dafuq mate, why so harsh?

after reading this thread all i can tell you is: listen, listen, listen. listen to tons of music with GOOD headphones/speakers, til you start noticing all the little details, til the patterns emerge from the chaos, til you can listen to the same tune 4 times in a row each time focusing on a different thing and every time you'll find new stuff you didnt notice before.
maybe weed will help you reach that state. take notes, and listen listen listen until it starts being like that all the time.
at the same time experiment with effects like phasers, filters, compressors, delays, reverbs et cetera til you can be in a club dancing your ass off drunk as fuck but at the same time your brain starts separating the different layers of the bass and you start hearing the effects used.
you might get to a point where everything you hear sounds predictable and boring, and that can be depressing but you'll get over it. switch genres for a while, listen to stuff you never liked with your new pair of ears and try to understand the patterns and rules of other styles, then apply them to the music you make in a way that it still sounds like your favorite tunes but fresh and different.

but the most important part: patience. what you're trying to do is basically rewiring your brain and that won't happen overnight. it'll take a few years but trust me it pays off if you don't give up.

i've heard this advice from so many people on here so it must have some truth. I really must start listening to other genres of music but where to begin? should the genres of music be somehow rhythmically related to the music that i'm trying to produce? i dont wanna be pick up just any genre and mind you that i'm honestly just doing this because you guys said it'd help because i'm perfectly content just listening to brostep but if i dont take advice from people on here who have been doing this longer than i have then i'd be foolish. i wouldnt mind picking up a new genre but i'd like some reccomendations if possible? do you guys mean just listen to ALL music ? cant smoke weed by the way i get tested weekly cause i'm out on bond :/. Great info man cheers thanks for your time

Figure out who the people you like listened to and start there. Then figure out who they listened to, and so forth. My 2 cents.

[acrap]

hahaha shanked in prison. fuck off tnuc.


ps liked the first 9 seconds of that 3rd tune you posted.

Here's some attention for you bro

[acrap]

get the fuck out of here with that shitty ass song and your bullshit negativity you miserable prick

dafuq mate, why so harsh?

after reading this thread all i can tell you is: listen, listen, listen. listen to tons of music with GOOD headphones/speakers, til you start noticing all the little details, til the patterns emerge from the chaos, til you can listen to the same tune 4 times in a row each time focusing on a different thing and every time you'll find new stuff you didnt notice before.
maybe weed will help you reach that state. take notes, and listen listen listen until it starts being like that all the time.
at the same time experiment with effects like phasers, filters, compressors, delays, reverbs et cetera til you can be in a club dancing your ass off drunk as fuck but at the same time your brain starts separating the different layers of the bass and you start hearing the effects used.
you might get to a point where everything you hear sounds predictable and boring, and that can be depressing but you'll get over it. switch genres for a while, listen to stuff you never liked with your new pair of ears and try to understand the patterns and rules of other styles, then apply them to the music you make in a way that it still sounds like your favorite tunes but fresh and different.

but the most important part: patience. what you're trying to do is basically rewiring your brain and that won't happen overnight. it'll take a few years but trust me it pays off if you don't give up.

i've heard this advice from so many people on here so it must have some truth. I really must start listening to other genres of music but where to begin? should the genres of music be somehow rhythmically related to the music that i'm trying to produce? i dont wanna be pick up just any genre and mind you that i'm honestly just doing this because you guys said it'd help because i'm perfectly content just listening to brostep but if i dont take advice from people on here who have been doing this longer than i have then i'd be foolish. i wouldnt mind picking up a new genre but i'd like some reccomendations if possible? do you guys mean just listen to ALL music ? cant smoke weed by the way i get tested weekly cause i'm out on bond :/. Great info man cheers thanks for your time

Figure out who the people you like listened to and start there. Then figure out who they listened to, and so forth. My 2 cents.

Another fantastic piece of advice i never thought of this lol thank you man

[mikeyp]

Also, try to not restrict yourself by genre. By the time you actually get really good, chances are brostep won't be the same thing it is now. Just make music, not a certain genre. Months and years from now, the thing making people dance like you want to is just gonna be different plain and simple. Also, a majority of what you hear from big name producers today is not what they started off making in the beginning of their careers. You've gotta be able to and willing to evolve and be open to other sounds and genres.