DUBSTEP LOSING INTEREST...

chef · Post by **chef** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:32 pm

Kion's got the right mentality.

kion · Post by **kion** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:33 pm

bagelator wrote:
KION wrote: Too much sugar rots your teeth
and cross polination makes for stronger babies

Yeah my old dog was a mongrel and he lived like a puppy till he was 16. Rotter cross bull mastif cross allsorts. Dropped dead in the end but was a lively old fuxxer, and not a grey hair on his bristly ginger scalp!

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:36 pm

bagelator wrote:
KION wrote: Too much sugar rots your teeth
and cross polination makes for stronger babies

as long as the genetic difference is great enough.

"distant cousins, there's a limited supply..."
(not relevant maybe, just a li'l bit o' Don Van Vliet)

chef · Post by **chef** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:38 pm

Lol, you lot are jokers

cogent · Post by **cogent** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:41 pm

KION wrote:ok, on a deeper level, isn't part of the emotional connection (when listening to it on an ipod) the memory of hearing it on a big rig or at a good night out?

Thats how it works for me. I build that reference for myself, and it gives me a buzz listening to it. But if I don't have that original reference (of hearing a tune out) I don't tend to feel it in the same way until I hear it in its natural surroundings. And then everything changes!!

agree with this... But if I hear a wicked tune on radio / i pod etc.. it just makes me wanna go out to hear it on a big system.. (rahh not had a chance to do this in a while either!!)..

Not read all the replies to this thread, but can understand both sides here.. I'm still loving dubstep to the max and their will always be good / not so good tunes in all genres.. Things can become a bit samey but if your listening to dubstep or any kind of music, I think its only natural that your own productions will be influenced by it.. The hardest thing is putting your own stamp on it..

Dubstep don't excite me like it use to but that's only because it ain't as fresh to me now as it was.. I see the enthusiasm from new cats on here and think I used to be like that, its not that I don't interest me anymore, more like its now part of my daily diet / routine and like everything you just become used to it being there.. So its like getting a new toy I suppose, you can't put it down for weeks, something else might come along to distract you but you still class your other toy as your favourite.. if that makes sense!!

Just my 2p's worth anyway...

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:43 pm

KION wrote:ok, on a deeper level, isn't part of the emotional connection (when listening to it on an ipod) the memory of hearing it on a big rig or at a good night out?

Thats how it works for me. I build that reference for myself, and it gives me a buzz listening to it. But if I don't have that original reference (of hearing a tune out) I don't tend to feel it in the same way until I hear it in its natural surroundings. And then everything changes!!

Might be being a bit esoteric, but I think that the natural surroundings of a tune are in your head and how you feel about it. The rest is essentially mechanics. I never use an i-pod as I like to hear my natural surroundings. I know what you mean about the club though, but if it's a good tune, I can still enjoy it for it's own sake rather than for nostalgia.

bedward · Post by **bedward** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 6:57 pm

i don't think it's so much nostalgia as
yr brain/whatever interpreting the input of yr senses, associating it with the object/experience that produces those phenomena (amongst others) and filling in the gaps before passing/parsing it all on to yr consciousness.

sensory stimulation is only a part of perception.

jeez, now i sound like a bloody trancer or something.

it's all maya....

RubiconMan · Post by **RubiconMan** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:26 pm

more BIG tunes than ever..i get shivers everyday from a big tune.
some of the stuff popping out recently is just next level.
a fresh tune still a fresh tune, but i guess more effort is required to sort em out. for examples sake, 1 in 3 new releases year ago would be bangers, now maybe 1 in 10 (eg) more than 3 times the records being released so more quality bangers. dont mean to sound negative like.
i got more time than ever for this music, sumthing struck a chord with me and it still does and im confident it will continue too.
BIG UP ALL STEPPAS hahaha basically keep your ears open

audiotheory · Post by **audiotheory** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:17 pm

r33lc4sh wrote:
Corpsey wrote:Not if the bass is one of the main musical elements in the track.
and maybe that's the problem?;)

random trio · Post by **random trio** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:40 pm

Chef wrote:. The tune's about bass so you gotta feel it, it weren't made for the local coffee bar.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:48 pm

Chef wrote:There's a big contrast between hearing Horror Show on your laptop speakers at work and in DMZ @ about 3am. The tune's about bass so you gotta feel it, it weren't made for the local coffee bar.

spot on.

ramadanman · Post by **ramadanman** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 9:44 pm

i find a lot of it's about the beats as well. good interaction between the bass and the drums is what creates the groove, the funk, the dancable stuff. a tune can have a sick bassline, but if the drums aren't right, sometimes i just can't feel it. people like mala and coki have the drums totally figured.

mala - jah power
coki - shattered/tortured/earth a run...ok basically every coki track out there
kromestar - surgery

jus wan · Post by **jus wan** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:14 pm

I'd agree with you on that point ramadanman. My fav tunes are the ones with a funky groove. That new ironsoul reggae thing is a good example. I havent been paying a lot of attention to dubstep since 2003 or so when the last horsepower album came out. But in the past couple months things are really picking up with tons of new names producing quality tracks. Really feeling the mix of styles. Variety is the spice of life

slothrop · Post by **slothrop** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:58 pm

ramadanman wrote:i find a lot of it's about the beats as well.

And the melodies, and the stabs and the samples and everything else.

There's a difference between 'big loud low bass is the most important part' and 'big loud low bass with some token drums is all you need all night.' The thing that really blew me away and surprised me the first time I heard dubstep on a big(ish) system wasn't the bass (which I'd kind of been expecting - I've always been into loud bassy music) but the way that the highs - specifically I think it was the stabs on System - completely engulf you in treble when you'd thought a moment ago that you were as engulfed as you can get in bass. And the way the ravey bleeps on Tapped came in after a few tunes of minimal dubbiness and throw in a completely new dimension. Top buzz.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:10 pm

Dub boy wrote:Debate & discussion is integral to all forms of expression inc. music

I'm running my uni's Debate Soc this year... so I agree 100%.

But however much I LOVE to "have things out" I've found that it's not always worth it, especially in areas like music or religion.

This forum is an exception because there's so much common ground. We can afford to split hairs and get all abstract
about it because we're in good company (and no-one's going to launch a Jihad against you when you talk bollocks).

Bedward wrote:artistic reasons have put (a lot of) dubstep outside of that accessabilty bracket.

it also makes it harder for mainstream culture to run off with it, cos it doesn't sound that good coming out of the radio at work, or on tv.

Big issue IMO.

If people heard dubstep on a tiny portable radio, they'd think it was shit. I certainly would.
This is why I like the constant encouragement to go to club nights. It improves the scene immeasurably.

Joseph-J wrote:And if you're bored, listen to something else for a while. Thats what I did and came back hungrier than ever.

Great attitude for life in general. Keep yourself on your toes and never OD on one habit.

8 · Post by 8 » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:32 pm

Macdonalds hamburgers vs really nice fresh salt beef bagels?

I know which i prefer, but if i was hungry and maccy dee's was all that was available, I'd take that. Whether I'd enjoy it who knows, but it would serve a purpose.

get mih get mih

I love you lot.

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04 am

i like my the with lots of sugar-- sometimes....

hatsudai · Post by **hatsudai** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:34 pm

ramadanman wrote:i find a lot of it's about the beats as well. good interaction between the bass and the drums is what creates the groove

spot on I reckon- drums are hardly mentioned when talking about dubstep. Personally I don't hear Distance mentioned enough but his drums are the best going around. Really well put down and compliment his tunes so much.

Speaking from a completely different perspective as most posters on this board (ie as someone whose dubstep scene is yet to grow past the 40 or so of us- Tokyo has one 100% dubstep night -which started in sep). I have loved and been moved/wotever by so many good tunes ages before had the chance to hear them on a proper system. I must admit tho, the first time I heard this music on a real rig I got 100% of what it is exactly but this didn't change how much I connected with the tunes when hearing them at home with my little subby or on my i-pod with the sound up full.

I completely agree with those who said if your not feeling it, put something else on and comeback later

boomnoise · Post by **boomnoise** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:57 pm

from the title of this thread, isn't the suggestion that perhaps dubstep is losing interest in us? i'm sure it feels a certain ambivalence toward forum members. it's probably a little tired being so in demand. i've heard rumours it's self medicating to cope with the stress. i suggest we club together and book it into the priory for a bit of rehab.

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Wed Oct 11, 2006 4:06 pm

boomnoise wrote:from the title of this thread, isn't the suggestion that perhaps dubstep is losing interest in us? i'm sure it feels a certain ambivalence toward forum members. it's probably a little tired being so in demand. i've heard rumours it's self medicating to cope with the stress. i suggest we club together and book it into the priory for a bit of rehab.

haha

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