executive steve wrote:Well, I've a hell of a lot more DnB records, and it's still the bulk of what i buy, for better or worse... Personally i think it's unfortunate that Dubstep is currently repeating all the mistakes that DnB made, only in a shorter space of time...
What excited me about dubstep was the fact that there was finally a new style of urban sample based music that was more about the rollout and the sub bass and the subtle rhythmical changes than it was about the impact or the big drop, and the spotlight of publicity has changed that utterly; personally i blame the UK student night circuit, long a refuge for the worst variety of plastic predictable shite in DnB...
Having said that, I'm immensely grateful for the effect that Dubstep has had on DnB as a whole; it's ironic that just as Dubstep absorbed all the worst bits of DnB in the past 18 months - huuge drops, horrid midrange, Crissy Cris, "Pendulum Snares" etc that DnB has absorbed a load of the best bits of Dubstep, rediscovering elements that used to be part and parcel of the way things were done; space, dynamics, huge subs, minimalism as more than an excuse to just copy and paste a wack loop for 6 minutes...
Personally i think the future of the two genres is very much intertwined, and i think it's really interesting to what will happen to the rhythmical space between the two genres - I'd love to be able to start a set with Dubstep and progress up to DnB without having to make any really big tempo changes; when people start writing DnB at 145 or writing Dubstep at 155 and retaining the subtlety and the funk and the VIBES that are the hallmarks of both genres at their finest, that will be the way forward i think... Those Autonomic podcasts are only a hint of what's to come in my opinion...
Shouts to anyone keeping it real, no love to those who sold their souls...
i dig this post. here is a person (like the person who started this thread) who is not frightened by a little thinking. If you don't have an opinion, don't just shoot down the thread. Get informed and create your own opinion. Otherwise what are you doing with your time? you're just a sheep otherwise, right? if somebody who regularly voices their honest opinion digs a track or a mix you've made, at least you know they're being honest.
so funny i should stumble upon this thread tonight... i was just listening to a mix that begins with dubs and ends in dnb as i drove home from work, blazing a spliff and sipping brews. Lately i listen to dubstep a lot more than dnb, simply because i don't have the mental and financial resources to be up to date in both genres. however, when the dnb section started, i was totally loving it. i listened to that shit for years almost exclusively before becoming a dubstepper.
someone mentioned earlier how they think instra mental etc are the only producers who are currently creating the good shit as far as dnb is concerned. i do kind of see where you're coming from. also, HAVE YOU HEARD THAT SPECTRASOUL TUNE "MELODIES" (
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrw9XHaEqkU) that's the sort of tune that brings some real legitimacy to drum and bass. i mean wow. if you don't dig that shit, i can't help you. it's a movement away from those horrible canned buildups and general overproduction that dubstep is kind of absorbing now.
having said that, can you imagine dubstep without the influence of drum and bass? would you have even gravitated toward the genre if not for your love of drum and bass?
i dig this kind of thread because it stimulates intelligent discussion. as much as i like to get retarded at a party and dance with the rest of the punters, i think it's important to really listen and observe the way things evolve and influence eachother. it just proves to me that there are other people listening as intently as i am and noticing patterns etc.
im always down for a little healthy discussion.
