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[R3b_Official]

@manudiao Dude great track! Far better than mine in every way. Yeah i started listening for a couple hours on youtube, looking at mixs and some skynet videos. Love him. Your whole track is nice and has a liquid feel and what would make it ten times more better is getting that Dnb drum precussion. Its litteral adding tons of high end sample like hats,crash,prec. Look up some same pack with loops. I have like two small percussion loops, but sampled them in my own way to make some originality and the rest was in abletons drum machine. You could get some sick rhythm with the audio files but that gets crazy in your work station. But if you add more Dnb drums and precussion it will be great.

[Ocelots Revolver]

Thanks for the drum advice! This was just experimenting around a bit, i honestley started listen to Dnb like a couple days ago and download a sonic academy series on it and was very helpful basically copyed the song but did my own mastering instead and mixing. Ill change the riser ( imo was getting tred of that also) and lessen the pad thing a bit. The snare i eq the highs little to much.... but ill change it up some time next week after hearing it a million times! I need to look around for some good vocals for a song. Your soundcloud in your sig is crazy awesome! The only thing change a bit is try adding a lot more compression to make it more full and fat. Also at 2:35 the lead sound was crazy loud and unexpected. Maybe bring it down a little or fade it in smoother, i dont know how to explain it? What you do to make that lead? Also what daw are you using? Track sounds pretty professional id buy it! Could i download it off soundcloud if your not going to change anything with it?

I will be making some small changes to the track eventually, but feel free to download it.

The master is compressed harder during the drops to give more impact, which is why 2:35 is so loud when compared to the breakdown, which is still too quiet and needs more volume.

The bass in the drop (is that the lead you're talking about?) is a reese made in massive. A macro controls pitch bend as well as a performer crossfade that fades between a flat line and a stuttered pattern. The performer in turn controls the amp, so an envelope must be used on the performer's amp. Theres more to it than that, but thats the essence of the patch.

[dotcurrency]

DankaBeats: The snare sounds weird imo. Less reverb and boost the bass a little bit. The hi-hats are way too loud, bring them down a bit. Add more synths man! It's a nice beat and nice bassline you got going but it needs more spicey elements.

manudiao: Very nice breakdown man! I like it a lot. The drums are boring. Need more percussive elements and layer that snare! The drop is a little unorganized, everything sounds just thrown together, no problem though, just work on some EQing on the reese (use a sub rather than just using the bass that the reese has) also make the reese more upfront than that arp and pad. Maybe a tad bit of sidechaining as well? Again, loving the second breakdown with the vocal choir and all!

mtl6: The drums are a little harsh to me but that just might be from taste, it's really neat but got boring after a while imo. Add more elements, the song is a bit too predictable. It's certainly very danceable though haha. The synths are also kind of drowned out by the (harsh) drums I think.



I spent quite a lot of time on this track, well over 12 hours, trying new things and such. Apologies for the long breakdown:
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[R3b_Official]

@Dotcurrency AMAZING! Awesome tune and have nothing to complain about but maybe one thing thought. Around 2:38 theres a lead synth playing. It sound really funky and catch but is sorta drown by the sidechain chord thing synth. You dont have to change the chord synth but maybe bring up level on the lead synth a little bit more just to add that finess. What key did you use for your song and what kind of chords? Really resonate sounding.

[Nokko]

Thanks to those who left feedback on my last post!

Dotcurrency: Really nicely done. Nice melodies and chord selection. Reminds me a bit of Zedd actually! In the build up to the main drop, you bring in that roomy snare sound, I feel like that could be lowered in volume by a lot, and cut the low end + low mids too. In the drop, you've got those little synth leads in between the pumping chords, I think you could emphasize those more, with a stronger sound. They seems a little weak, and I think those are really cool little leads that deserve to be heard more! I'd also experiment with some vibrato on those leads, might be a nice effect and add some additional lively-ness. Oh, ok I just noticed that you brought in some more layers on the leads later during the drop, so I guess you can disregard what I said hahah! I still feel it could be a bit "denser" of a sound, if you know what I mean? Great work otherwise, I'm digging it!

DankaBeats: I'm not too sure what to say about this one since I don't have much experience with this style, but it sounds pretty solid. Interesting variations going on in the second one, I feel like if you added some more percussive elements it would be cool. Sounds good mix wise, maybe try spacing things around in the stereo field more for some interesting effects.

manudiao: Daaamn, this is awesome! Love the airy-ness and the overall vibe is so chill. Just a few things I would work on: I feel like the different hi hat samples you used are too dissimilar and make it sound a bit awkward. I'd try and find some hi hat sounds that mesh a bit better, and throw in a nice ride on the beat, and then bus it all out to a slight reverb to glue it together. Reese sounds cool, the high end is a bit harsh I find, but its better than any reese I've made! I'd work on refining the reese sound, and the hi hats. Overall though this has huge potential, I'm really excited to see where this goes. Keep it up!

mtl6: Cool ideas, I like the feel. I feel like the main bass sound could be a bit thicker. Have you thought of adding some more hi hats playing a faster rhythm? May be a variation you could add.

Heres a clip of my latest tune. This one is almost done, I'm just working on getting the mix right. Can you hear clipping on it? I've listened to it too many times and can't tell if I'm driving the master too hard hahah. Any feedback of any form is appreciated, thanks in advance!
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[dotcurrency]

Thanks guys! I plan to change the lead synth and also add more variation to it as well, appreciate the input!

What key did you use for your song and what kind of chords? Really resonate sounding.

F Minor if I recall correctly! Not sure what you mean by what kind of chords, but they're triads for the most part but I layered them with a bass and a top end

Also Nokko I think soundcloud changed the way it works, you cant embed private tracks now

[mtl6]

dotcurrency- really like the arrangement and style of this but I feel like the intro is missing some mid frequencies. i can tell the synth has a lot of highs and the bass has a lot of lows, but maybe some stuff in the mid range would sound good. i like the cinema bells you got in there too lol might just be my tastes but i almost wish your drums were a little harsher haha i feel like the kick could use a tiny bit of higher freqs to let it punch through. solid production though.

nokko- ah god i love this kind of music...i try to make similar stuff sometimes. the track sounds a little too clipped in my opinion, which kinda drowns out the kick from really hitting through IMO. your synths and melodies are perfect though so good work. also, just in my own perspective, that brief supersaw synth stab you have at :43, :47, etc. would sound more badass if you cut the bass out for those parts. like this track so far though, reminds my of some of my other stuff on my sound cloud

i got a little tired of making electro house so i tried making some chiller stuff. lemme know what you think, i'm trying to figure out how to make the main melody more varied but i'm not sure yet. thanks!

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[mthrfnk]

@mtl6: Sounds nice on the intro, the drums are nice on the drop and the vocals are a good touch. The mix sounds quite good atm, really no feedback on that to give. I think adding in a top line to complement the chords would be a good addition - for example a high end piano line just to glide on the top of the mix. The transitions between the main, the small break and back to the main section are good, although I think a section in the middle like the outro would be cool. Nice work

@Nokko: The drums are really weak on this imo, the synths drown them. I really don't like the synth on the drop, it sounds like you've got mad tight reverb or delay on it which I don't like because it's distracting and sounds weird. This synth takes up way too much room in the mix and also it would be good to have it progress more than a single repeated line. The kick needs to be much louder and punchier to drive this tune along. The melodies and chord lines you bring in are good and I'd make more use of them.

@dotcurrency: The high pitched thing on the intro gets a little annoying imo, perhaps tame it down or filter it in/out, idk it just started to grate on me by the time the break came. The chords and melodies are nice, but try to level your synths more in the mix - some are much louder than others which is off putting. I feel the build drags on too long and that snare build sounds a bit weird imo, perhaps cut the mids a bit on that. The drop is quite good, lacks low end though - definitely add a driving/pumping sub or fat saw in the mix. The little frill melodies are nice, I'd make them more prominent. As for the chords, again these need more low end and top end sparkle - they sound kinda muddy or dull, try to get them to really punch through (esp. in the half time bit - I'm thinking Seven Lions style). Definitely some good potential.

@manudiao: Intro is quite nice but I wouldn't filter the drums so much. The build and filtered drums and teased reese sounds nice - the drop is cool too bur work on the mix, the reese and synths cover the drums completely and it's a shame because this track could be really good if mixed right. You need to tone back everything and bring the drums up - maybe clear some of the reverb up too. The vocals are a nice touch and fit seamlessly. I'd perhaps add more sub to the reese too.


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[Kes-Es]

Dotcurrency- I'm liking your drums but I feel like the whole track lacks a brighter tone, it all sounds really muffled, I the vocal is nice but it's not my thing, overall this is pretty sick, like the intro into the break is really good, very anthemic, man, it's really not my thing, the sweeps in the break at about 1:32 to should fade out earlier. I really like the percussion in this whole track. the kick boom could be taken out IMHO. Either way, this is pretty solid. The synth runs in the drop are amazing. good work man. that halftimey bit doesn't work imho.

Mtl6, I like this, it has a very nostalgic feel to it, the siren was nice, I don't know about the vocal sample, and the percussion is a little basic but the melody stuff is on point. good stuff man.

Mthrfunk- this is catchy as all fuck, clean drums, and the intro is attention grabbing, the drop suprised me a lot and personally I would have gone a different direction, definitely darker, everything is clean I just can't get on board with it, it doesn't match well. Both parts individually are dope though.

Here's about an hour of my night, it needs a lot of work but it's the first serious track I've attempted after a hiatus of months and I'm fair stoked about it, the aesthetic is different than you guys are probably used to and is a little bit of a step forward from my older tracks under another alias, and it's drumstep, tell me what you think

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[R3b_Official]

@Kes-Es Love me some drumstep! First person to see someone post something about drumstep on the fourm. Its a pretty good track just need to mix it a bit better. Im on my laptop speakers right now and sound pretty good. Ill listen with my headphones in a bit when i find them. The song has strong resemblance to figure. One of my favorite artist right now. I think the track would be a lot better if you change stuff or introduce stuff every 4 or 8 bars. I think i got it to making a solid track and why stuff played on the radio is catchy.

Even though the songs on the radio are repetitive, every song even though you cant hear it. Something is brought new every couple bars or so. Wether its just fading an auto filter or adding a new hat or something. Now a days people have short attention span and the more we mix it up and add new sound or remove them. The person will be more interested in the music. Thats why most of us dont listen to classical, we wont something exciting to happen every 16 bars or go at a faster pace. Thats my two cents in. Try adding more sounds, even though thats very vague but just try it and learn to transition things in drum or synths!

Could i ask you how you got that growl at 0:11? I could never get my growls to modulate like that... :/ also what did you to for the talking yoy? Doesnt sound like a simple bitcrusher or sample hold fx. It sound very figure like and ive been trying/looking for a sound like that for awhile, not to copy it but to understand the synthetics of it and branch from the typical yoy yoy sound. Thanks if you dont mind sharing!

[fiveone]

@kes - you need variation before the drop... a lot of it! the drums are a bit flat, especially that snare! bring it out of its shell.

@mthrfnk - love those synths, i was actually mucking around with a 160bpm-ish beat that had that kind of feel to it if you wanna collaborate? love the chord work as well. reminds me of japan for some reason..... lol

@mtl6 - wow, insanely clean beat. have you tried your hand at some hip hop? sounds fantastic. love the background synths coming into play around the 1:30ish mark. great drop into the bass.

here's my tune, started it last night and *kind of* finished it this afternoon. but might work on it some more later! thoughts? i was trying to recreate that laaavely sine sub skank that seems to be missing from a lot of tunes these days. hope you enjoy

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[Kes-Es]

@Kes-Es Love me some drumstep! First person to see someone post something about drumstep on the fourm. Its a pretty good track just need to mix it a bit better. Im on my laptop speakers right now and sound pretty good. Ill listen with my headphones in a bit when i find them. The song has strong resemblance to figure. One of my favorite artist right now. I think the track would be a lot better if you change stuff or introduce stuff every 4 or 8 bars. I think i got it to making a solid track and why stuff played on the radio is catchy.

Even though the songs on the radio are repetitive, every song even though you cant hear it. Something is brought new every couple bars or so. Wether its just fading an auto filter or adding a new hat or something. Now a days people have short attention span and the more we mix it up and add new sound or remove them. The person will be more interested in the music. Thats why most of us dont listen to classical, we wont something exciting to happen every 16 bars or go at a faster pace. Thats my two cents in. Try adding more sounds, even though thats very vague but just try it and learn to transition things in drum or synths!

Could i ask you how you got that growl at 0:11? I could never get my growls to modulate like that... :/ also what did you to for the talking yoy? Doesnt sound like a simple bitcrusher or sample hold fx. It sound very figure like and ive been trying/looking for a sound like that for awhile, not to copy it but to understand the synthetics of it and branch from the typical yoy yoy sound. Thanks if you dont mind sharing!

I appreciate it man, yeah I spent longer on sound design than I did structuring the track so everything besides that is pretty rough, PM me for details about my sounds man I'll give you some tips, I like to think it's a pretty original sound even being sort of derivative of a yoy or growl.

[R3b_Official]

Alright cool, sent a pm

[Living_Tragedy]

If I missed you out it's because my feedback would be completely useless to you anyway.

@Kes-Es - I think the lack of sub in the melody section is a bad idea. Maybe put it in and then remove it for the buildup. Also the main synth I think needs widening. The kick and snare need perking up a little too. They're generally pretty good but I think the kick could do with a cleaner punch and the snare sounds a bit muddy in places. Maybe use more hihats in 1/16ths but I think that's personal preference. Keep going with this.

@mthrfnk - Sounding great from the beginning as always. That kick might need to have a tad more weight at the start. Holy f- those stabs are beautiful. This is a fantastic tune. I'd be very interested to know how you got this track so professional sounding. I can't really critique this much. Really well done mate.

@mtl6 - Oooooo, nice 808 kick. Very clean sounding. This is another one I can't really critique, everything sounds good to me man. Maybe bring the vocal up a little but I don't think that's important. Nicely done.

@dotcurrency - Nice sounding beginning but I think that bass would work a lot better if it was heavier and really crisp. Really nice breakdown, nothing to critique there except maybe to give the snare a bit more weight on the buildup. I think the drop could do with some white noise and maybe a bit more reverb on the main pads. Really nice work so far man. Keep it up.

Okay, so I tried something a little different here. I kept the song quite bare and didn't use many uplifters/downlifters. The kick is something I've never tried before. Just critique me everywhere please.

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[fiveone]

does that mean my track is alright or...?

[Living_Tragedy]

It means I don't know that type of music and my feedback would be useless. Sorry man :/

[mthrfnk]

Mthrfunk- this is catchy as all fuck, clean drums, and the intro is attention grabbing, the drop suprised me a lot and personally I would have gone a different direction, definitely darker, everything is clean I just can't get on board with it, it doesn't match well. Both parts individually are dope though.

Thanks, the point of the track was basically have the drop clean as fuck - and make it almost jarring to the listener. Guess it worked

@mthrfnk - love those synths, i was actually mucking around with a 160bpm-ish beat that had that kind of feel to it if you wanna collaborate? love the chord work as well. reminds me of japan for some reason..... lol

Thanks for the offer but tbh I don't have time to collab, any time time I do get to music I like to spend it working on my own stuff. The plucks are a Koto style instrument - which is Japanese

@mthrfnk - Sounding great from the beginning as always. That kick might need to have a tad more weight at the start. Holy f- those stabs are beautiful. This is a fantastic tune. I'd be very interested to know how you got this track so professional sounding. I can't really critique this much. Really well done mate.

Thanks, what exactly do you want to know about how I got it "so professional sounding"?

[Kes-Es]

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Here is the updated version for anyone interested, sounds a million times better.
if you have comments post them on soundcloud so as not to clog up the thread.

[f1rstsense]

@Kes-Es
That bassline is fucking evil. But for such a severe drop I think you build more tension with the build up. The drums are lovely imho defo on spot. Also add a mimicking sub bass underneath that midrange bassline and it will be really heavy.

@oner_music
I love it. I dont have any valuable to add apart from telling you that its awesome

Heres my breaks wip, its gonna be my first track, but I'm kinda lost what should or not be changed and also looking for some mixing advices. Thanks!
https://soundcloud.com/firstsense/mixed ... es/s-H92So

[mthrfnk]

@f1rstsense: Nice intro although the snare seems a little flat, maybe boost the tone of it a bit. I like the ambiences going on and the chords driving it forward. I think your basses/midrange on the drop could use some work, personally I'd smash them with more distortion and saturation and chop them up more - the straight notes get a bit repetitive. I'd also bring the piano up as it's too low in the mix when the bass is playing. This is a pretty well thought out track, definitely got that old school dnb/undergroudn vibe about it and the mix isn't too bad either

@Kes-Es: The intro is quite catching. Drums definitely need work, the kick seems weak. I'd also add more sub to the bassline, again it sounds a little weak on the low end vs the top end. I'd definitely play around with the main sound too, maybe widen the top end or add some phasing to the midrange, adding in some other elements might be cool too to avoid it become repetitive. A tight reverb would really help glue the track together as well imo.

@Living_Tragedy: I get what you're trying to do with the clean vibe, the intro is quite nice, I'm a sucker for delayed plucks and the kick drives along nicely. On the chord build, I'd add more bass and perhaps automate reverb on the chords getting bigger and bigger during the build and then cut it at the drop. Tbh I'm not a fan of the drop, mainly because the sounds lack weight and top end - both your screamy sine/saw patch and the chords need a firm bassline underneath. Claps would also brighten up the percussion. Again another element you could add is a hard pluck on every other beat - I find in minimal house tracks this keeps things progressing nicely, helping drive the track. I like the second drop more but again a little more power in the synths would help. I think with your chords you need another octave above on a really wide patch and maybe some strings mimicking the chords on the midrange (but lower in the mix).

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