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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:01 pm

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nowaysj wrote:Did just get a V-verb shipped for $86. That is my nice reverb.

Am dealing with the Virus. Never even came close to tapping this fucker.
I picked up a Lexicon MX200 for peanuts recently. Wanna say 110 out the door. Nothings special, but a workhorse. Also, can connect the MX series to your DAW via USB. Great 1U units...dual mono, parallel and serial stereo configurations. Nice front panel access. Bread and butter FX and Lexicon quality.
Does the usb connection have audio in/out? or is it just for controlling the hardware via your daw?

(forgive me if this is a stupid question, I know next to nothing about outboard effects)
Oh no, the USB lets you use it as an in-DAW FX Unit. Works like UAD essentially. DSP. : ) So yea. USB audio I/O I don't know if this is a typical feature or not for hardware FX units. I would say not.
But if you have a big interface/patchbay, you can just drag and drop your outboard FX
like inserts anyway right? You would wan't your computer to do that extra signal processing.
I'm a bit confused here.

The Lexicon MX series can be connected to your computer via USB, there is a VST software for the hardware unit. The software sends the audio signal via USB to the hardware FX unit, the unit does the processing then sends the audio back over USB. Really the only issue might be latency. It is supposed to save on CPU, not use more. As I'm seeing it, it would cause your computer/DAW to do any extra processing.

Setting up an hardware FX unit w/o the USB option would require (in FL Studio) setting up a "send" channel that sends the audio out of the computer via a line out on your interface, the cable connected to this line out jack would go to the line in on the FX unit. The line out of the FX unit would be connected via a cable to a line in on your interface. Inside your DAW you would set up a "return" channel set to receive audio from the correct audio input. Here again, latency is the issue rather than processing power.

I don't really know of a way to "drag and drop" external FX, besides hiring an intern to do all the dirty work ;p
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:05 pm

Thirty dollar 3630 just arrived. Really nice bit of kit. From feel and looks at least. We'll see if it can crush.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:24 am

nowaysj wrote:Thirty dollar 3630 just arrived. Really nice bit of kit. From feel and looks at least. We'll see if it can crush.
It can durty
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:34 am

Me like durty.

Dude, this should go in the pictures of your setup thread, but we're here now. Being in this new space... oh shit, I'm going to have to totally relearn my speakers. Like everything sounds so different. I was in a sub antinode before, I'm in somewhat of a node now. But just generally, I'm lost... my gain staging is all goofed up... I used to know, if something was x loud, it would reproduce y loud on sound systems. But now, I'm just awash. The real problem is EVERYTHING sounds great now. Wide and open and rich. My old stuff sounds like masterwork, which it is not by any stretch of the imagination... so I don't know how I'm going to push sounds down here.

We'll see.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:40 am

nowaysj wrote:Me like durty.

Dude, this should go in the pictures of your setup thread, but we're here now. Being in this new space... oh shit, I'm going to have to totally relearn my speakers. Like everything sounds so different. I was in a sub antinode before, I'm in somewhat of a node now. But just generally, I'm lost... my gain staging is all goofed up... I used to know, if something was x loud, it would reproduce y loud on sound systems. But now, I'm just awash. The real problem is EVERYTHING sounds great now. Wide and open and rich. My old stuff sounds like masterwork, which it is not by any stretch of the imagination... so I don't know how I'm going to push sounds down here.

We'll see.
Durty durty five dolla.

Yea. I mean...I just put my speakers in a different place in the same room (facing wide ways instead of long ways) totally different scenario. Feel yer pain.

Also...about where what should go...who gives a fuck...there are like...barely a solid dozen of us holding down the fort...whatever we have to do keep the Big Nothing from taking over production.

Sound Design sub forum bores me. So it doesn't count :lol:
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:58 am

Also have been told to put your nearfields angled in, pointing at your head. But I think I'm preferring having them parallel, facing straight out. Wider stereo image, greater separation between sounds. I don't know, I think I'm going to roll parallel. I'm sure I'm doing it all wrong...
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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:58 am

I just grabbed a Rane compressor for $35 and a Boss RPD-10 for $30.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:01 am

Haha, frag, we're fucking this guy up. GAS is SO contagious.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:04 am

Oh, I'm loving that rpd-10. That is a dirty bird.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 11, 2015 1:19 am

I'm seriously curious about the Boss Micro Series!
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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:09 am

What is this GAS acronym? Gear Addict Slut?

About to fire up that RPD for the first time. I picked it up during lunch break. I think I really want an RSD. Shhhh, don't tell anyone, that is my durty secret. I might have to get one from Japan. They are big in Japan...

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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:19 am

fragments wrote:I don't really know of a way to "drag and drop" external FX, besides hiring an intern to do all the dirty work ;p
In Ableton, you literally can. You make an external effects device where you set you I/O and levels and then you can drop that effects device where ever you want it, as an insert or as a send.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by ehbes » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:23 am

stop making me jealous of all your hardware you stnuc, I barely have room my laptop here in my dorm
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Re: Gear lust

Post by fragments » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:30 am

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fragments wrote:I don't really know of a way to "drag and drop" external FX, besides hiring an intern to do all the dirty work ;p
In Ableton, you literally can. You make an external effects device where you set you I/O and levels and then you can drop that effects device where ever you want it, as an insert or as a send.
Shit man. Niiice.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 3:46 am

mks wrote:What is this GAS acronym? Gear Addict Slut?
Gear Acquisition Syndrome

http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/guita ... ome-585947
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Re: Gear lust

Post by mks » Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:20 am

Relapse

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The seventh, cruellest stage of GAS can hit anywhere between a year to eighteen months after the purchase, although the time passed invariably depends on the amount of cash spent and the amount of meals you've had to eat from a tin as a consequence.
Yeah, I've gone for about 5 years.

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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Wed Feb 11, 2015 6:40 am

Yeah, I totally had it at bay for a few years there. Maybe not totally, a few little things. But something happened here. I broke the seal and all this GAS came out.
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Re: Gear lust

Post by R0 » Wed Feb 11, 2015 8:04 am

Speaking of gearlust have you guys checked out the TimbreWolf yet. It has brought me so much joy and its not even released yet:





Plus a remix!

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Re: Gear lust

Post by AxeD » Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:16 pm

fragments wrote:
Oh no, the USB lets you use it as an in-DAW FX Unit. Works like UAD essentially. DSP. : ) So yea. USB audio I/O I don't know if this is a typical feature or not for hardware FX units. I would say not.
AxeD wrote: But if you have a big interface/patchbay, you can just drag and drop your outboard FX
like inserts anyway right? You would wan't your computer to do that extra signal processing.
fragments wrote: I'm a bit confused here.

The Lexicon MX series can be connected to your computer via USB, there is a VST software for the hardware unit. The software sends the audio signal via USB to the hardware FX unit, the unit does the processing then sends the audio back over USB. Really the only issue might be latency. It is supposed to save on CPU, not use more. As I'm seeing it, it would cause your computer/DAW to do any extra processing.

Setting up an hardware FX unit w/o the USB option would require (in FL Studio) setting up a "send" channel that sends the audio out of the computer via a line out on your interface, the cable connected to this line out jack would go to the line in on the FX unit. The line out of the FX unit would be connected via a cable to a line in on your interface. Inside your DAW you would set up a "return" channel set to receive audio from the correct audio input. Here again, latency is the issue rather than processing power.

I don't really know of a way to "drag and drop" external FX, besides hiring an intern to do all the dirty work ;p
I did this in Cubase and Pro Tools. You assign dedicated I/O for the effect. That way
you can just insert that bus (which you name 'Lexicon MX') on any channel. So it works
similar to a plugin. But yeah, you get a little latency and you have to bounce online.

I guess you need that fully customizable io setup though. Plus the extra physical in- and outputs.

Friend of mine has his whole outboard rack in the Cubase template this way. It encourages to buy
more of the same effect though :lol:
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Re: Gear lust

Post by nowaysj » Thu Feb 12, 2015 1:57 am

Another good thing about buying and waiting for gear to arrive...

You can rtfm.

Didn't get a chance to read the BCR2000 manual... that one should be interesting. Wait, did it even have a manual? Prolly have to dl it too.
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