Vaccine conspiracy theory - the real effects

[-dubson-]

and if you were meant to die then you were meant to die lol

LMAO

[hackman]

your question is stupid and has an obvious answer, so i chose to ignore it

[-dubson-]

your questions is stupid and has an obvious answer, so i chose to ignore it

It being a stupid question is irrelevant, i want to know. I am actually interested as to what the answer is, enlighten me if your so clever.

[hackman]

alternative treatment and stay healthy?

[magma]

alternative treatment and stay healthy?

Why trust profit making "alternative treatment" over profit making conventional treatment? Why not use both?

There's exactly the same possibility that they're trying to rip you off and a lot less regulation to try and ensure they're not...

[hackman]

have i been slating antibiotics in this thread?

[-dubson-]

alternative treatment and stay healthy?

Why trust alternative treatment over vaccinations though? Stay healthy is the point not the solution...

[pkay]

Pandemics don't pick on simply the 'unhealthy'. That's why they are at pandemic status.

You are aware there was a relatively major mumps outbreak in the UK from people with a similar mentality? And on a smaller level in Ireland.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

What I find most bizarre is the idea of thinking that "I've never had a vaccination and I'm not ill" highly outweighs the millions of cases that havn't had vaccinations but suffer at the mercy of some of the sickest ailments. Such a destructive self centered attitude Can't you see the breadth of this 'paradigm' and it's compartmental nature? Maybe it's easy to feel big man when the opposite team all has curly legs from polio or whatever

Ever considered these magical vectors for illness (stashed inside vaccinations) could be little more than malpractice and the presence of things like (big) air bubbles with embolisms etc or contaminated apparatus/procedures? Back in the 80's a lot of people contracted HIV through something as simple as bad practice in tattoo studios. The misinformed probably said "U GOT AIDZ COZ OF THAT FREDDIE MERCURY TATOO111!!!"

Not tryna change your mind though, you're right about the certain markets (i.e. influenza which constantly evolves because of poor human attitude) but some things arn't worth the stubborn nature that comes with being against the bigger picture. Don't skip on tetanus or other bacterial based vaccinations

Also if you think humanity are a bunch of turnip heads (great insult btw haha) maybe opt for the greatest vaccination of all time and get a vesectomy

[magma]

have i been slating antibiotics in this thread?

No, but personally I'd say they had more identifiable negative effects than vaccination!

MRSA is what you get over-prescribing antibiotics!

[hackman]

alternative treatment and stay healthy?

Why trust alternative treatment over vaccinations though? Stay healthy is the point not the solution...

if you eat healthily, stay clean, keep your vitamins etc in check, etc you're far less likely to get ill in the first place
basically just maximising the efficiency of your immune system, and if you get ill then you just deal with it and it makes you stronger

why not trust alternative treatment over vaccination?

[hackman]

well whatever works for you, personally i wouldn't touch antibiotics

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Alternative treatment is great too. I like that you say 'maximise' the immune system. Unfortunately, vaccinations are aimed at a specific side of immunology you never seem to have come across... Hell, it's even got a cool resident evil style name:

Read up on natural killer T cells

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_cell

Summary: Immune systems can not exist without the anti-body, thus the requirement for vaccinations (because the only other way to get the coding for such molecules is through genetic inheritence = we pass them on = why diseases tend not to return). Anti bodies must be of a specific shape to match that (in a complimentary fashion) of the molecular shape of the intruding 'illness' ha. Molecular shape in viral bodies came mainstream with the 'H1N1' shite didn't it. People who had shaped anti bodies for other forms still got this new form

[hackman]

what the fuck man, i know about all about the lymphocytes and phagocytes

[hackman]

it's far better to produce the anti bodies normally, that is just my personal preference
i've said in this thread anyway that i think the actual idea of vaccination is good, it's just all the shit that they put in with it that i've also posted

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

You don't 'produce them normally' - they gotta be introduced or inherited. a) Vaccinations: small quantity of inactive cells to supply the genetic information or b) huge dose of active cells from infected person = contracted illnsess, but if you recover, you store the anti bodies (chicken pox scenario)

Tried being polite and useful like...

[hackman]

that's what i meant by normally, i'd rather face the risk of getting whatever disease it is and getting the antibodies like that instead of injecting myself with all the other shit they put in with them
as i said if you are healthy, you would have a strong chance of survival

[magma]

it's far better to produce the anti bodies normally, that is just my personal preference
i've said in this thread anyway that i think the actual idea of vaccination is good, it's just all the shit that they put in with it that i've also posted

Unless you have an extremely long genetic inheritence from your Mother, you won't be able to produce the correct antibodies to fight diseases... that's what vaccination is for! You'll have an immune system, but it won't be able to do shit if it's exposed to a large dose of Polio. It's got to have the blueprints..!

Plenty of healthy people used to die of disease. They don't now. This is a good thing.

Read some history man... it's FULL of otherwise healthy people dying horribly. Do you really want to see families like the one in A Christmas Carol? Crippled kids all over the country taken down by a childhood diseases. It was horrible... we're in a MUCH better place now.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

Ahhhh I see, wasn't intentionally twisting yo words, just tangled wires

Yeah, maybe the historic story is sugar coated, but remember the tale of the aztecs and the white man's cold. Highly healthy system and culture completely annhilated by some dirty english wasters turning up for a party. Similar to a vegan dying at the hands of a prime rump steak because their pristine stomachs wither

Still is good you're thinking and at least open to some. Bacterial based ones you can never really develop anti bodies, sometimes a shot in time saves (losing)9(fingers to gangrene)!

[hackman]

it's far better to produce the anti bodies normally, that is just my personal preference
i've said in this thread anyway that i think the actual idea of vaccination is good, it's just all the shit that they put in with it that i've also posted

Unless you have an extremely long genetic inheritence from your Mother, you won't be able to produce the correct antibodies to fight diseases... that's what vaccination is for! You'll have an immune system, but it won't be able to do shit if it's exposed to a large dose of Polio. It's got to have the blueprints..!

Plenty of healthy people used to die of disease. They don't now. This is a good thing.

Read some history man... it's FULL of otherwise healthy people dying horribly. Do you really want to see families like the one in A Christmas Carol? Crippled kids all over the country taken down by a childhood diseases. It was horrible... we're in a MUCH better place now.

yeah look at the state of sanitation back then, horrible