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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by fractal » Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:22 pm

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What's the deal?
You know about the deal?

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you got me with that one! coffee up the nose

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fractal wrote:Dubplate culture isn't for everyone. I've noticed it really pisses off the enititled generation who want everything now and have the attention span of 2 year olds. I still play tunes that are decades old myself... Meh
this

playing old tunes imo is fookin fine and dandy...none of this "ah mans playin old stuff, we want fresh new bits only" yea new tunes are nice when a new tune u aint heard catches u off guard n u get that awsome "WOT THE FUNK IS THIS" moment its the 1! but if u play a ridonkulous banger from way back nostalgia crew are on it and the new heads get educated...cant go wrong man...

word. oneman knows, he slips the old classic or forgotten bit in all the time and it just hits you like a wave! smiles for miles :corndance:
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Dark Reign » Tue Jan 18, 2011 11:14 pm

Loefah, you should release digital :)

Or at least release the older 12's as a compilation CD

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by -dubson- » Wed Jan 19, 2011 12:33 am

rhythm wrote:Swamp 10 to 15 were mastered today according to Loefah's Twitter. sick.

I think this is some of what's coming, anyone else know the rest? (FunkBias "Live Forever", Zed Bias "Stubborn Phase", Boddika "Basement"....?)

09: Addison Groove: Sexual / Work It
10: Falty DL: Mean Streets Pt. 1
11: Boddika EP (2727, Rubba, Sometimes, Soul What)
Boddika is having a EP mastered i saw on FB. Which tunes are on it I don't know. I guess the Zed Bias and FunkBias tracks will make up one 12".

Whatever the order is i'm sure the quality will be good cant wait for Electron. :corndance:

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Phigure » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:31 am

Dark Reign wrote:Loefah, you should release digital :)

Or at least release the older 12's as a compilation CD
Lol, absolutely not
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Shum » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:33 am

Phigure wrote:
Dark Reign wrote:Loefah, you should release digital :)

Or at least release the older 12's as a compilation CD
Lol, absolutely not
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by cosmic_surgeon » Wed Jan 19, 2011 2:48 am

Never understood that attitude. Surely it's up to the artist/label head to decide how they want to release the tunes? Always see that argument being brought against digital heads, but it's a sword that cuts both ways. If Loefah decided to release digital (which being realistic, I don't think he will) I'd be very happy. Vinyl lovers still get their vinyl, it's not like Dark Reign's saying it should be digi only...
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by noam » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:15 am

imjust gona say it - id be SUPER pissed if vinyl only labels started throwin out digi's...

do one.

if vinyl's ever gona survive you need labels like this that persist and are stubborn with it

you got your Kryptic Minds CD. be happy.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Phigure » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:21 am

cosmic surgeon wrote:Never understood that attitude. Surely it's up to the artist/label head to decide how they want to release the tunes? Always see that argument being brought against digital heads, but it's a sword that cuts both ways. If Loefah decided to release digital (which being realistic, I don't think he will) I'd be very happy. Vinyl lovers still get their vinyl, it's not like Dark Reign's saying it should be digi only...
but the exclusivity is what it's all about

and this is coming from someone who wishes he had the money to buy more loefah vinyl. all i've got is disko rekah :(
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Shum » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:22 am

You should definitely cop Tempa Allstars Vol. 2 man, too many big tracks on there. They've been repressing their back catalogue regularly now (hence it won't sting your wallet so much) and 'Truly Dread' is well... truly dread lol.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by cosmic_surgeon » Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:02 pm

noam wrote:imjust gona say it - id be SUPER pissed if vinyl only labels started throwin out digi's...

do one.

if vinyl's ever gona survive you need labels like this that persist and are stubborn with it

you got your Kryptic Minds CD. be happy.
Maybe the best dubstep album ever (not counting Burial) so very, very happy! I also see what you're saying mate, but my point was that if Loefah did decide to release digitally the "sense of entitlement" rhetoric would then land on the other side of the fence - and it'd be interesting the see if anyone pulled a u-turn on that point. Thing is, Mala loves vinyl too and people like your good self continue to buy vinyl. Deep Medi release tracks digitally now as well, so people without the means/inclination to buy vinyl can enjoy them. Might be a bit of an assertion, but have Deep Medi lost any vinyl sales since making the switch or have they simply increased the amount of people with access to the tunes? That's a good thing in my view.

I can't help but think Quest's complaints earlier last year about not getting enough love, and Mala's remarks about being unable to keep up vinyl only distribution because it was affecting the artists he signed, are probably related.
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by crowleyhead » Wed Jan 19, 2011 3:49 pm

That said... I'm actually hoping Loefah does go for the cassette release.

Hey, I'm odd. I think a lot of stuff on cassette sounds better than vinyl.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by waki » Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:49 pm

lol at saying they should rls on vinly only.

what about the avarage listener then (who is not a dj)? should i pirate the vinly-mp3-rip?

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Stigmatism » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:48 pm

waki wrote:lol at saying they should rls on vinly only.

what about the avarage listener then (who is not a dj)? should i pirate the vinly-mp3-rip?
You don't have to be a DJ to buy vinyl.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steepletone-3-S ... 229&sr=1-7

£40 isn't the end of the world either.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by waki » Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:53 pm

Stigmatism wrote:
waki wrote:lol at saying they should rls on vinly only.

what about the avarage listener then (who is not a dj)? should i pirate the vinly-mp3-rip?
You don't have to be a DJ to buy vinyl.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Steepletone-3-S ... 229&sr=1-7

£40 isn't the end of the world either.
yeah sure, but imagine listening to music for 2 or 3 hrs (or more likely for a whole day) while playing a game, brwosing the web, chatting, etc. this way...

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by banquo » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:00 pm

Whoever said Loefah owes us nothing is spot on. He is an absolute ambassador of the uk's remarkable dubplate culture. anybody who calls for mp3 releases and a compilation of old 12s (god forbid!!!!) is certainly slightly out of touch with the roots and mindset of all those who "run" the scene. i do totally agree that its annoying hearing tunes for 12months and then being bored by the time of release but love it or not that is exactly what dubplate culture is and also how it survives the test of time! loefahs appearance fees at gigs probably earns him a much better wage than the profits made off vinyl releases so therefore he will also hold onto tunes for as long as possible, i would!! it keeps people coming through the doors of clubs, even more important considering he does most of his trade in the saturated city of london where there is always a potentially better night to attend.

people should just be grateful that loefah (a self-confessed "slow one") took the time at all to bring swamp81 into fruition and took the time to bring us tunes that otherwise may never have seen the light of day. would you rather have the tune 12months after its radio time or never at all?

if you're obsessed with having an mp3 of every tune then it must be said that maybe 'dubstep' isnt the genre for you... the genre is led by the dj's and producers such as loefah who do it BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT and not just because they may make a living out of it.

i remember a time when typing dubstep into itunes would result in the computer equivalent response of F*CK OFF. the scene has never been about releasing tunes as quickly as possible for maximum profit..... it has (and hopefully always will be) about rinsing good music as loud as possible for as long as possible before the lights turn on. if you cant live with that then maybe just buy an ipod and start listening to cheryl cole.

big up yourself loefah and please just keep doing what you do.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by waki » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:15 pm

banquo: forget me if i don't get it but you talk about the dubplate culture which is completly different thing. i don't think the guy who wrote the digital thing wants to have the tunes in mp3 right after he hears it. he just wants to have another alternative of buying a tune _after_ the release date. dubplate culture is not vinyl culture.

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by banquo » Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:30 pm

not saying dubplate culture IS vinyl culture but in the context of the release argument (what this thread was started as) they go hand in hand. one explains the other

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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by adamjames » Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:25 pm

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incnic wrote:Blawan EP?
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huh? what? someone say Blawan EP? where?
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Phigure » Wed Jan 19, 2011 11:59 pm

banquo wrote:Whoever said Loefah owes us nothing is spot on. He is an absolute ambassador of the uk's remarkable dubplate culture. anybody who calls for mp3 releases and a compilation of old 12s (god forbid!!!!) is certainly slightly out of touch with the roots and mindset of all those who "run" the scene. i do totally agree that its annoying hearing tunes for 12months and then being bored by the time of release but love it or not that is exactly what dubplate culture is and also how it survives the test of time! loefahs appearance fees at gigs probably earns him a much better wage than the profits made off vinyl releases so therefore he will also hold onto tunes for as long as possible, i would!! it keeps people coming through the doors of clubs, even more important considering he does most of his trade in the saturated city of london where there is always a potentially better night to attend.

people should just be grateful that loefah (a self-confessed "slow one") took the time at all to bring swamp81 into fruition and took the time to bring us tunes that otherwise may never have seen the light of day. would you rather have the tune 12months after its radio time or never at all?

if you're obsessed with having an mp3 of every tune then it must be said that maybe 'dubstep' isnt the genre for you... the genre is led by the dj's and producers such as loefah who do it BECAUSE THEY LOVE IT and not just because they may make a living out of it.

i remember a time when typing dubstep into itunes would result in the computer equivalent response of F*CK OFF. the scene has never been about releasing tunes as quickly as possible for maximum profit..... it has (and hopefully always will be) about rinsing good music as loud as possible for as long as possible before the lights turn on. if you cant live with that then maybe just buy an ipod and start listening to cheryl cole.

big up yourself loefah and please just keep doing what you do.
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Re: Swamp 81- What's the deal?

Post by Drop_Dead » Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:06 am

Phigure wrote:
cosmic surgeon wrote:Never understood that attitude. Surely it's up to the artist/label head to decide how they want to release the tunes? Always see that argument being brought against digital heads, but it's a sword that cuts both ways. If Loefah decided to release digital (which being realistic, I don't think he will) I'd be very happy. Vinyl lovers still get their vinyl, it's not like Dark Reign's saying it should be digi only...
but the exclusivity is what it's all about

and this is coming from someone who wishes he had the money to buy more loefah vinyl. all i've got is disko rekah :(
Quite ironic since thats been released digitally

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