Yep, I'm just surprised you're still alive, given Paulie's utterly terrifying threats in this thread.Spaceboy wrote:I did setup Hotflush with Paul yes and ran it for a couple of years. I'm still involved in music and associated with the label. But i do nick beats as well!UFO over easy wrote:Guess I'm wrong then!go figure that one out...............................
he couldnt harm a flyUFO over easy wrote:Yep, I'm just surprised you're still alive, given Paulie's utterly terrifying threats in this thread.Spaceboy wrote:I did setup Hotflush with Paul yes and ran it for a couple of years. I'm still involved in music and associated with the label. But i do nick beats as well!UFO over easy wrote:Guess I'm wrong then!
auralassassin wrote:I'm sure Scuba isn't as interested in giving away music as those who don't have record deals, etc... thats why I figured I'd ask random people--might as well, you are all into piracy.Spaceboy wrote:ask scuba....im sure he can't wait to pass it to you
it's terrible!! it's killing me!auralassassin wrote:How does it make you feel to know that some of the big names in dub/grime can't pay to put out more hot tracks?
that's a direct threat to me (cos basically noone else is on my side..)auralassassin wrote:I've taken note of everyone on here that admits to pirating music, and sees nothing wrong with stealing product. Don't be suprised when noone hands you dubs--you can't be trusted. And this is why.
im on ur side but lets not get it heated again hhhmmdubway wrote:where was i? (was offline for a while...)it's terrible!! it's killing me!auralassassin wrote:How does it make you feel to know that some of the big names in dub/grime can't pay to put out more hot tracks?
you think i don't know that?
you think that that wasn't the only reason why i started buying vynils??
but it's not my neighbours fault!!! (cos he's using slsk)
you shouldn't be angry on ppl like them..
that's where we live...
in croatia Artists get regular salary by goverment.. it's not much - but..that's a direct threat to me (cos basically noone else is on my side..)auralassassin wrote:I've taken note of everyone on here that admits to pirating music, and sees nothing wrong with stealing product. Don't be suprised when noone hands you dubs--you can't be trusted. And this is why.
nice one mate
i'll get that as a "thank you"...
my free oppinion is not so cheap, and i'm not such a coward to be affraid of your threats..
ZGK wrote:I also live in the US, and the whole pirating aspect is debated endlessly. I download music that cant be found anywhere else (DJ Screw remixes, dubstep, underground hip hop and rap, DnB, and Turntablism, etc.)
All of these genres arent widely available or recognized by the masses. Dubstep is unheard of in Virginia, so for me to get the music without resorting to piracy, I would pay the shipping for vinyl from oversees, borrow a set of turntables from my dad and rip to my MP3 Player. Or I could simply download a mix which has all the newest songs blended into a seamless experience. I wouldnt pirate Dubstep, but I would pirate the mainstream shit major labels are putting out (Paying 15 dollars for one or two good tracks)
IMHO, Dubstep sounds better in a mix rather than a single track.
Also, the buying and collection of vinyl is fine but the space it takes up and the investment needed is pretty high. My dad has an entire wall from corner to corner fill with records (12", 45s, Rare albums, mainstream crap, everything), when he has a portion of his collection( the stuff he plays at parties) on to 100 gigabyte hard drives
well said to all of the above. Exactly my standpointGrievous Angel wrote:Just my two cents...
There is some evidence to suggest that downloading has some beneficial effects on mainstream music sales. (There have been a number of academic studies which indicate this -- I'm thinking of the Harvard Business School one in particular.)
However, it is also a fact that downloading damages the sales of a number of non-mainstream genres. For example, there are a number of reasons why Grime artists don't enjoy greater commercial success, but one important one is that too many grime fans download tracks when they could afford to buy them, or one of the (now numerous) compilations featuring grime tracks. This is less of an issue with dubstep, but it's still something of a problem as Plastician has indicated.
It's also a fact that few if any of the main dubstep artists make money from record sales. Just consider the sales volumes and work out the net profit -- it's just not enough to live on. They scrape by from doing shows. A lot work part time. If as many dubstep fans bought their records as could afford to, then there would be a lot more dubstep records in the world.
It's difficult to criticise downloaders who simply can't afford to buy the music -- if they're that short of cash then they wouldn't be able to buy it anyway, so it's not a lost sale. But there's a lot of people who could afford it and are either too tight or too lazy to shell out for vinyl or, even a 99p -- 99 fucking p - download from bleep.
I have a problem with those people.
That's a pretty good stance to be on, actually. I'll modify mine to this... but still think that even if you can't afford it, you shouldn't steal... this isn't eating--this is a commodity.Grievous Angel wrote:Just my two cents...
There is some evidence to suggest that downloading has some beneficial effects on mainstream music sales. (There have been a number of academic studies which indicate this -- I'm thinking of the Harvard Business School one in particular.)
However, it is also a fact that downloading damages the sales of a number of non-mainstream genres. For example, there are a number of reasons why Grime artists don't enjoy greater commercial success, but one important one is that too many grime fans download tracks when they could afford to buy them, or one of the (now numerous) compilations featuring grime tracks. This is less of an issue with dubstep, but it's still something of a problem as Plastician has indicated.
It's also a fact that few if any of the main dubstep artists make money from record sales. Just consider the sales volumes and work out the net profit -- it's just not enough to live on. They scrape by from doing shows. A lot work part time. If as many dubstep fans bought their records as could afford to, then there would be a lot more dubstep records in the world.
It's difficult to criticise downloaders who simply can't afford to buy the music -- if they're that short of cash then they wouldn't be able to buy it anyway, so it's not a lost sale. But there's a lot of people who could afford it and are either too tight or too lazy to shell out for vinyl or, even a 99p -- 99 fucking p - download from bleep.
I have a problem with those people.
I followed that Harvard study at length. Their research was based off of a year of studying SLSK and Soundscan records here in America.Grievous Angel wrote:Just my two cents...
There is some evidence to suggest that downloading has some beneficial effects on mainstream music sales. (There have been a number of academic studies which indicate this -- I'm thinking of the Harvard Business School one in particular.)
Theres no reason to lock this thread. It's just filled with people expressing opinions and holding their ground. In fact, i'd rather we get the SLSK soap opera over and done with in this one thread. What we don't need is 20 more threads about it.UFO over easy wrote:Someone lock this nonsense, or I'll rise to auralassassins bait again
auralassassin wrote:LEGAL distribution... stealing is stealing.
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