Burial - Untrue - The apocalypse?

paulie · Post by **paulie** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:19 pm

Where I live these days, you go to a club and people go mad (MAD!) when a tiny little hi hat comes in. Or drops out. It's quality.

TRG · Post by **TRG** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:22 pm

Minimal has a crazy crowd

Checked a dnb party and then Villalobos on the same night, I can totally vouch for the hi-hat>HYPE thing

Seemed so weird at the time.

4linehaiku · Post by **4linehaiku** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:35 pm

Everyone loves hi hats.
A lot of that hype can be attributed to large quantities of drugs, but I do think minimal fans are willing to go nuts to a pretty major range of music.
Obviously everything is kick kick kick kick, but the range of stuff that gets put on top of that is rediculous, and some of the wierdest, most 'leftfield' stuff gets people as hyped as the really obvious anthemic tunes. Quite refreshing.

nubian minds · Post by **nubian minds** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:35 pm

ozols man wrote:dubstep is gonna go the way drum n bass and countless other 'innovative' genres have - its the science of life.

efa · Post by **efa** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:29 pm

i-line wrote:What we need is an ark.

We all go in B2B

reverendmedia · Post by **reverendmedia** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:04 pm

edit: fucking snip

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:00 pm

New Skool Breaks is slowed down Drum & Bass.

Dubstep is slowed down Techno, Sped up Electronica, Reggae on Acid, Garage on Ketamine and guess what - I still fuckin love this music - so much good new stuff comin out!

lokki · Post by **lokki** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:48 pm

Got it today...brilliant album..played it at work to non dubstep lovers (i work at a dnb distributor)..went down well..

BIGGGGGG

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:22 pm

EFA wrote:New Skool Breaks is slowed down Drum & Bass.

Drum and bass is sped up jungle. Original jungle tunes were about the same speed as modern dubstep. New Skool Breaks is the new hard house

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:37 pm

Shonky wrote:
EFA wrote:New Skool Breaks is slowed down Drum & Bass.
Drum and bass is sped up jungle.

Jungle has sped up, Drum & Bass is the new hardcore

Original jungle tunes were about the same speed as modern dubstep.

I know, I've had fun mixing!

New Skool Breaks is the new hard house

Bashy Dubstep's the new, New Skool Breaks.

brklss · Post by **brklss** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:39 pm

Ashley wrote:Might sound a bit daft but I had a dream a few nights ago and its been lurking around my mind for a while and I just need to express my opinion and I feel the forum hasnt had a topic like this for a while.

In the next few days Burial will be releasing his new album, Untrue. Could this be what the scene needs interms of publicity or will it take the opposite turn and start a chain of events that will not ruin, but hurt the healthy scene we have at the moment.

Burials new album will take off instantly, especially with the success and the publicity the last one got. But entertainment and music journalists who never had the chance to cover the last one no doubt will make the effort to do a write up this time around atleast.

Im just fearing that the media will attract the wrong crowds, due to the fact Burial's music is not really rave music, but listening music. Something that can attract a wide audience from all different scenes and different ages. I am sure if my Nan knew who Burial was and what music he produced, she probably would listen.

Maybe I just dont like change im not sure but even pokes commented last night on the boomnoise and pokes show on SubFM that he would like the media and the attention the scene is getting at the moment to subside and quiet down a little.

The more I think about it, the more it reminds me of Mortal Combat with the 5 combos leading to a KO. Benga + Coki - Night is another one of those tunes that crosses the border out of dubstep and into other genres doing the round in Ayia Nappa, EZ's KissFM show and fuck knows where else, especially at £4.99 at HMV it will probably be played at weddings next.

DMC championships. DJ Final put a few bits in his set, sparking the ear drums of hundreds of DnB fans waking them up to a sound that is happening.

I am not saying these people shouldnt produce these tunes or the other people cant play them. Just highlighting the fact that the scene is moving in a direction and everyone should be aware.

Another comment last night in the boomnoise and pokes show was that, boomnoise commented about Drum and Bass arena putting money into a scene that they know is happening. Cashing in quick before the big bang?

Maybe the current turn of events wont actually attempt to ruin the scene with commercialisation and strong media publicity, but trying to keep it our scene will...

Discuss

A real artist/musician does not create for the public but for self-definition and development.

By the way, real artist don't give a shit about this forum.

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:41 pm

reverendmedia wrote: he said dubstep was essentially slowed down dnb

Now this has started to bother me because he blatantly hasn't had a proper listen to whats going on. For someone so forward thinking I'd expect him to see what started jungle in this scene - pioneering sounds!

necta selecta · Post by **necta selecta** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:51 pm

EFA wrote

Now this has started to bother me because he blatantly hasn't had a proper listen to whats going on.

Why give a toss what goldie (or anyone else) thinks ?

tone.def · Post by **tone.def** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:52 pm

[quote="EFA"][quote="reverendmedia"]
he said dubstep was essentially slowed down dnb[/quote]

Now this has started to bother me because he blatantly hasn't had a proper listen to whats going on. For someone so forward thinking I'd expect him to see what started jungle in this scene - pioneering sounds![/quote]

what's so crazy or "wrong" about this quote? dubstep has the exact same basic musical elements as drum&bass: sub bass, drums (kicks and hats etc.), pads/atmospherics and very little else. it's just at a way slower tempo and slightly different beat structure. as far as i'm concerned it's all coming from the same place, just in a different form.

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:16 pm

double post fuckery

efa · Post by **efa** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:16 pm

I have a lot of respect Goldie. So you agree, Dubstep is Drum & Bass slowed down - sorry I don't - I've been a Jungle head since 94 and this is nothing like slowed down Drum and Bass. I've been playing around with these sounds in Dubstep as have other people. This scene's worth more than bullshit comments like that and I have lost a little respect for him, can you please point me in the direction of this interview when it drops please as this may have been taken out of context due to the fact that.

reverendmedia wrote: (i did hear him say this, but i just take the pics so don't quote me please...!).

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:25 pm

tone.def wrote:
EFA wrote:
reverendmedia wrote: he said dubstep was essentially slowed down dnb
Now this has started to bother me because he blatantly hasn't had a proper listen to whats going on. For someone so forward thinking I'd expect him to see what started jungle in this scene - pioneering sounds!
what's so crazy or "wrong" about this quote? dubstep has the exact same basic musical elements as drum&bass: sub bass, drums (kicks and hats etc.), pads/atmospherics and very little else. it's just at a way slower tempo and slightly different beat structure. as far as i'm concerned it's all coming from the same place, just in a different form.

If it was just slowed down d&b it would be erm, d&b slowed down, not dubstep. It might not be simple to define what's different structurally but it is different - dubstep is a feeling

You could as easily say reggae is just wonky rock - they have the same elements - bass, drums, guitars, keys, vocals.

reverendmedia · Post by **reverendmedia** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:03 pm

first off - i did say don't quote me. and definitely not him for that matter.

i regret bringing goldie into it now. it was rash and unfair on him. not to mention very unprofessional of me.

i've deleted my post.

apologies.

when the interview drops I'll post the link.

bob crunkhouse · Post by **bob crunkhouse** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:07 pm

lol goldies gonna smash your face off

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 8:17 pm

reverendmedia wrote:first off - i did say don't quote me. and definitely not him for that matter.

i regret bringing goldie into it now. it was rash and unfair on him. not to mention very unprofessional of me.

i've deleted my post.

apologies.

when the interview drops I'll post the link.

Not to worry, the internet wouldn't be what it is today without knee-jerk reactions to inaccurate hearsay?

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