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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by sigbowls » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:12 am

sounds good before 110 then it gets too loud but nothings wrong with the vocal
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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by NinjaEdit » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:14 am

Fatigue usually means it's over-compressed. If you've got compressors on, remove or adjust them. If the compression came from the mic, you may have to re-record. You can expand some range back into it, but it's hard.

De-ess.

The stereo delay doesn't have to be on during that whole period. Maybe just have it engaged on select parts for effect, and use a reverb instead.

Maybe some words/phrases can be emphasised with and additional vocal. This would add dynamics in a way.

Good tune, btw.

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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by ChadDub » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:18 am

jonahmann wrote:Fatigue usually means it's over-compressed. If you've got compressors on, remove or adjust them. If the compression came from the mic, you may have to re-record. You can expand some range back into it, but it's hard.

De-ess.

The stereo delay doesn't have to be on during that whole period. Maybe just have it engaged on select parts for effect, and use a reverb instead.

Maybe some words/phrases can be emphasised with and additional vocal. This would add dynamics in a way.

Good tune, btw.
I mean fatigue as in I've been listening to this track for literally 4 hours in a row now and I've listened to it for 3 or so hours last night, meaning idk what sounds good and what doesn't anymore lol.

I did a little de-essing using a multiband compressor but idk how it would stack up against an actual de-esser.

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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by ChadDub » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:23 am

signals wrote:sounds good before 110 then it gets too loud but nothings wrong with the vocal
ah fuck, I guess the automation clip didn't kick in or something in the export. It's meant to be the same level as the first verse (instruments and vocals).

So it doesn't sound too muffled or too crispy? The original started out very muffled until I brought up the highs/mids and brought down the lows a little and then used maximus (a good multiband compressor) on the master to bring everything out. But now I think it MIGHT be a little too thin?

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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by sigbowls » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:29 am

i was listening on my laptop and the music sounded like screeching but maybe it sounds better on good speakers
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Re: Tell me what's wrong with the vocals in this track

Post by eyeatus » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:35 am

considering the mic he used, it sounds pretty good.
a few things to try-
roll off above 16k hz on the instrumental &vocals (sounds really sharp)
record vocals again (in the closet) or (in a tunnel)
hard pan different vocal takes
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make room for vocals by EQing out somewhere between 300-800hz on the instrumental

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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by Dizzo » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:00 am

HimanshuVikal - I really like the intro it sounds kinda 8 bit but i think that the arpeggio that starts at :14 might sound really good with a pan going from left to right. Maybe its just me but i always think panning sounds really cool if done right. IMO the bass doesnt sound good just getting brought in like that. I think if it were initiated by something even just as simple as a single kick it would sound better. When the kick and snare get brought in i think that you made the snare really wimpy and out of proportion to the kick.

azuk - The sound design at the beginning sounds very dungeony and really cool but i think that the kick and snare in the beginning could use a bit more filling. Like maybe a cymbal or a few hats between each kick and snare but maybe thats just me. But when the drop hits your sub bass is very loud and thats really all i can hear. Like i cant hear any of your wobbles or anything. And when the second drop hits i think you can do at least a little bit bigger of a builder than a kick. Even if there was just some white noise in your build i think it would sound much better.

dotcurrency - Dont know why youre not so sure about the intro i think it sounds really good! I really dont have much to say about this one. But i think the kick could have a bit more sub to it. Especially since its four on the floor. With that repetitive of a drum beat after a while the kick just seems to sound more clicky and i think some sub would help. I really like the vocal to but i couldnt really hear it all that well over everything else which is kinda disappointing because it seriously sounded really good and fitting to the song!

I tried to make something with a euphoric feel. Personally i dont think the sounds are blending very well together (so if anybody has any advice on that) and i kinda got a serious case of writers block so i havent come up with a second drop or outro yet. I really just dont want to make it repetitive so im giving it some time. And see if you can spot the modern talking :P
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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by mthrfnk » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:13 pm

@Stargazer: Kinda remind me of Owl City on the intro, I quite liked it. It could use a bit more energy on the part with the LFO'd synth and build, since it's quite empty perhaps chords or a pad? Sounds a re okay on the drop but the high pitched panned thing gets irritating. The main LFO synth needs way more midrange weight, it sounds kinda lost in the mix imo. Overall some cool ideas :D

@dotcurrency: Love the intro with the foley. The chords sound a bit awkward before they really kick in although they sound okay on the build The drop is quite nice although everythings a bit central, perhaps push the high end out a bit wider. A thicker bass and punchier kick would help too I think. If you mix this right it'll sound pretty nice :W:

@lightshapers: Like the strings on the intro, the drops quite heavy, but the panned bass sounds a little weird. I think this would also benefit from something else in the mix other than the squeely lead and bass, perhaps some offbeat stabs? Mix sounds nice, but maybe change out the snare sample every 4 hits and replace it with a massively reverbed one - should help add variety to the perc.

Here's a remix I'm currently working on - I basically did this in a 6 hour straight sesh so it's rough but I'd appreciate comments from people with fresh ears since I want to finish it ASAP. I know the leads harsh and slightly hollow I'm working on that:
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Post by Dizzo » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:55 pm

mthrfnk wrote:@Stargazer: The main LFO synth needs way more midrange weight, it sounds kinda lost in the mix imo.:
Any tips on how to add midrange weight? The only way to do that that i can think of is by EQing and when i try to EQ it any more it sounds kind of distorted because right now i think i have it kinda sitting in a sweet spot. And for the high pitched panning thing is it specifically the panning that gets irritating - like if i take out the pan do you think it would sound better?

And for your first song at the beginning i think that the orchestral part (what sounds like strings not the piano) sounds kinda drowned out by the bass. Its kinda hard to hear and i really like orchestral stuff in songs so i think that would sound a lot better if it showed through the bass a little more. And something right at 0:31 sounds really out of tune. Your drum breaks are seriously just spot on and i like the chiming fx panned to the left. You said that the lead sounded kinda harsh and hollow and id have to agree on the harsh part but i really like the hollow sound. Imo it kinda gives the song much more depth - just keep that in the back of your head if youre gonna work on the lead any more. I also really like how every other snare has a ton of reverb as apposed to just being a dry snare. I also think that the reverbed snare would sound really good in the outro (maybe another drum break too because those are seriously sounding good) like maybe right where the final kick is or something - but thats just my opinion.

And for your intro to your new release i think there's too much distortion on the vocals. I also like how the crashes are very powerful but they seem almost a little too powerful. Especially the one right at the climax of the intro. And for the vocals in the outro i think that with the pitch drop at 2:48 it just kinda drops too fast. Like maybe if the vocal was stretched or something it might sound better.

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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by willryan042 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:17 am

@dotcurrency: i really like the ambient intro and how you slowly bring everything together. this shit gets crazy pretty quickly though, in a good way. drop is fucking solid, mix is great. you got yourself a nice upbeat club tune for sure man, i dig it.

@stargazer: damn this synth is groovy man! i think it's gelling together pretty well so far, although the drums seem a bit... flat i guess i'd say. and i think the synth from the intro is still the main focus after the drop, not sure if that's intentional. maybe beef up that dirtier synth somehow to make it stand out a bit more.

@mthrfnk: first track is tight. mix is solid, liking the piano and trumpet sounding instruments. i'm always a fan of real(ish) instruments worked into tracks. i think you said it's a remix and i haven't heard the original, personally I'd mix up the drums a bit instead of the standard kick/snare pattern. you working in that drum fill is a start but i think it gets a bit repetitive because you use it a couple of times. but i'm really liking this man. chill but energetic. nice work!



Here's a weird one I've been working on for the past couple days, a house/garage/I don't know what to call it remix of Adele. I'm having some issues with mixing it, mainly because i have so many vocal tracks going on. My ears are pretty beat from listening to this, so I could definitely use some outside input.

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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by kaili » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:48 pm

@willryan
something is eating up the drums, could be the vocals not really sure, either way the vocals are a tad too loud. not really sure how to help you but just try some sidechaining/eqing etc to give them drums room to breathe :)

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Re: WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

Post by Darj » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:48 pm

Hi :)

@ willryan042 : I liked the panning of the vocals, and the main idea of your remix is nice. You hats sounds to me a bit muddy, and your clap needs a bit more presence in the mix. Nice work anyway.

@mthrfnk : It's pretty hard to comment an intro, I can only say it doesn't sound bad.

@Stargazer : The high synth is killing my ears, not sure it's a good idea to play this on a sound system. Your drums need more punch on the mixdown, and the arrangement is pretty basic.


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Post by R3b_Official » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:14 pm

@mthrfnk
- Dude! Banger tunes as always! Seriously nothing wrong with anything :4: perfection. Reminds me of one of daft punks Tron album. Very cenematic and edge. Big ups on Digital Dreams m8

@willryan042
- Nice and relaxed tune. Pretty ambient if you ask me. Tbh i got kinda bored at the 1:00 to 1:30 mark, seem to much of a loop going on. Not much going on or ear candy. Also at the 4:02 mark it seems like its too much of big jump for me since the song very mellow and slow. Other than that its a great remix! Wished they played more remixs like this around instead of shitty half ass atempts throwing in a new set of drums and changing the sample and tempo around a bit.

@kaili
- Solid tune, everything in the mix down is great! The sub could be brought up a little tiny bit and add maybe some slight distortion and tube to make it punch through the song since there is not much mids. The sample or whatever you used was interesting but it did not fit at all in the mix... I think take it out and look for something else. The whoshing and gargling movement takes away from your drums and precussion. Try add a nice mid-range bass with a long attack and add some other modulation to it. I guess a reese ahah. Other than that its pretty good :W:



Ok heres mine! So ive been messing around with growls lately and ive think im close to the SMANS growl. Tried making it in operator and did some easy modulation and got good results. So I thought why just make the growl when i just remake the whole song?

My mixs down are a lot better and eqing and compression is getting there.

Im not really into old skrillex very much but it is such a well know song and have to admite started up a lot of the electronic music crazy, either you like it or not :corncry:

The growl is terrible in this clip because i had so much going on my old laptop its starting to poop on me. Got like 128% in abletons cpu. For a couple mins i kept freezing and unfreezing the track to get the modulation sort of right. Will do a better job later, Im tired of listening to this on replay over and over :u:

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Post by drewspuppet » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:22 am

@ Stargazer-
Nice atmospheric feel.

The intro section clap that comes in and then a little later in the track.. where it is fairly open not a lot going on feel like needs to be louder and add reverb. I thought the snare fit nicely in the track though.

I loved the atttack/high fx sound that comes in like 1:32, 1:40..

I did feel though that the really high synth stuff was either too loud, needed to be eq'd and lasted too long... though I felt it was too piercing so if it was eg'd or turned down might fit well imo.

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Post by drewspuppet » Mon Sep 16, 2013 1:42 am

@ Darj .. no other way --

I really like the composition. For me the sort of acid like synth sound that plays throughout provokes irritation, but maybe not in a bad way.

Follow me here -- the reason it envokes irritation is because my mind wants to focus on the sound, but it too background and quiet in the mix.. yet I can't unhear it. LOL.. that kind of irritation seems to fit with the mood of the track, keeps interest and creates tension... however I wouldnt mind if at the end there you made it big gnarly and brought it to the front.

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Post by Icetickle » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:31 am

@dotcurrency: Love both the intro and the drop of the track! Just stereo spread that water or whatever it is in the beginning.

@Stargazer: TBH I didn't really like it too much. You are playing that wobbly pitchy sound from the start to the end of the track. Everything feels too centered. The track feels lifeless overall, bring some happiness in it :lol:

@mthrfnk: Already told you that the voice ruined it for me :(

@willryan042: You should try gluing the whole thing together somehow. Buss compressing and saturating.. something like dat.

@Darj: I just love the atmospheric beginning in your track, stick to that! :)
Also props on dem hihats !

@R3b_Official: You need to work on your mixing dude.


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Post by GregoryTJ » Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:10 pm

@willeryan042
I love it from about 0 - 30 seconds, when the bell thing comes in the whole tune seems out of key.

Also the drums do seem a little bit quiet, it could be the mix, it sounds like it is pumping, maybe a compressor set too high or an EQ boosting the basses and mids too much fed in to a limiter too hot and masking the kick?

@Darj
Really neat tune, it does seem a bit repetitive even for the genre though.

@Stargazer, pretty much what everyone said about the high pitch thingy.

@Icetickle
The whole mix sounds wonk. Mix everything really quiet and leave tons of headspace, just turn up your speakers/phones. After it is mixed well, bounce it to audio and compress/limit/EQ until it is as loud as you want without noticable distortion/pumping.

Cool tune though. Maybe tighten up your kicks & snares by opening them up in an audio editor, adding a quick fade out on them, tuning them and finally lowering the reverb decay you have on the snare.

If you have FL Studio you can just click the kick/snare sample and raise the "out" knob up a bit instead of manually adding fade outs.

You can also try boosting the transients on the kick with a waveshaper and maybe boosting the highs, but those are just ideas...

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Post by Alexandercunningham » Tue Sep 17, 2013 9:37 am

GregoryTJ - I like the sound a lot, fresh. Good mix, don't have much to say there. Infuse it with some samples and I think you'll be home.

Icetickle - The transitions are not emphasized enough, easily gets bland. You should work on em havin more punch.

Darj - Shit man, i didn't have any woofers when listening, but shit sounds sick... Can't say much, think you're close to nailing it.


Here's my latest project, a project I might even finish... Im thinking on maybe asking a friend of doing some rap over it and haze it up a bit more...

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How should go about the arrangement on it, can't really feel how one would go about that, anyone who could post inspirations references or whatnot would be awesome.

Should I play around more with pads, and the same thing there, Im used to use very few instruments on my tracks, hence I don't know how to go about that either.

Is the vox-play too much? And is the sound OK?

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Post by LilWUB » Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:28 pm

No longer a WIP. Thank you DSF for the feedback!

EDIT: Cheers, Icetickle! I agree with you about the intro part and flipped the script on it! Thanks FAARE FACED for listening and giving me some feedback. I also agree with the mixdown part though the ending is supposed to be more chaotic as opposed to punchy. However, I did make some mixdown tweaks to liven it up.


Icetickle - Nice carefree atmo! Feels like we could work with noise and filter sweeps more to give the sound life and motion. Idk about the snare hits on the breakdown - they seem to lack expression.

GregoryTJ - This is fun! I wish the growly bass that comes in at :19 tore my head off. What did you use - FM8? Sausage fattener is good at getting things nice and fat and loud. But I know you haven't spent a ton of time on this yet.

Alexandercunningham - Cool vibe! For something like this the drums need to be the star of the show to carry everything. Try bringing everything else down first. Get the drums sounding amazing and bring everything in to compliment them. Also work with various percussion instruments to give the drums some more groove. I think you would really benefit from filter sweeping noise and pads.
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Post by Icetickle » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:03 pm

@GregoryTJ: So basically I liked everything except that noisy synth in the beginning. But that could just be me tho.
BTW. do you have pads in the tune?

@Alexandercunningham: Love the atmosphere of the track and it's really clean, props on dat.
But it lacks some weight. I would add a clean sine bass (not sub) punching through the drop.

@LilWUB: That lead in the beginning is too high (IMO) and doesn't really fit in with the voice.
Other than that it's not bad. Really original and those basses are dope as fuck.
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