WIP Thread - GIVE FEEDBACK TO OTHERS BEFORE POSTING!!!

[zosomagik]

@wewuk big fan of the tribal sounding drums you got in there. also those are mixed down really well! If anything i'd say toss some white noise sweeps in there to give it some more depth, you'd be amazed at how much a sweep can fill out a mix.

@subfect the intro has a serious trampa vibe to it, digging the deep feel. i'm not sure how you feel about throwing in some real slow metallic sounding synths but it could spice it up a bit. also white noise sweeps all day.

@zorbot the arrangement is pretty good but i'd work on getting some of those sounds in key

No intro, just kinda started writing a drop and melody today and this is where i've gotten to. lemme know what you guys think.
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and then there's this com truise 80's type tune i was working on. would also love to know what you guys think.

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You gave feedback on tracks on the first page of the thread, which is a year old. But, your clips are pretty tight man. Not really my personal cup of tea, but definitely pretty good. I know the first one is just a tiny clip, but maybe have some mid range background stuff going on to fill out the sound more? As for the second one it has some cool vibes, I'm diggin that mario coin type sound lol if that makes sense.

[ParaTroXic]

Feedthedemons- Holy shit, I am genuinely excited to hear your finished untitled track. Your snares are punchy as hell, well mixed down. The lead synth sounds really unique, has its own flavour to it - keep using that sound, its awesome. The Sub sounds like it has some stereo width actually suits it very well however I don't know if it would translate well on a sound system. I would advise making a version with a Mono sub and see what it will sound like. The only other advice is to add some more low-mid sounds as a layer to fill it out abit more. Other than that, this is one of the best tracks imo that has come out from this forum.

Zaksperaw - Very nice and has a good atmosphere and melody. I never usually complain about this, but I think there is too much bass. Perhaps you could lower the sub bass slightly, just so I can hear the mids and highs abit more clearly, seeing as its more melodic sounding track.

This is a short clip of the drop in my House track . Sounds pretty rough atm, but tell me what you think.

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[alexeyhermann]

ParaTroXic rough, but sounds like a well structured piece of arrangement, keep working its good start

zosomagik I like the sampling and the melody overall, nice flow , keep working ) I would suggest adding some transitions every 4 or 8 bars

Annex space-jam-no-sub - very interesting, you should definitely finish it
untitled-dub-beat - already quite catchy and grovy i like it

Alexandercunningham writing-songs-to-gurlz - awesome ) !

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[kaili]

ParaTroXic rough, but sounds like a well structured piece of arrangement, keep working its good start

zosomagik I like the sampling and the melody overall, nice flow , keep working ) I would suggest adding some transitions every 4 or 8 bars

Annex space-jam-no-sub - very interesting, you should definitely finish it
untitled-dub-beat - already quite catchy and grovy i like it

Alexandercunningham writing-songs-to-gurlz - awesome ) !

my tune
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the drums could hit harder, especially the snare, and the whole tune has a nasty kinda 'dry' feel to it, maybe add more reverb and stuff. im not into brostep so thats about all the feedback i can give ya

https://soundcloud.com/kailimusic/atom- ... p3/s-Euf9P
private link here, i guess this is done im just wondering if theres anything i should do to it before i upload it?

[ParaTroXic]

Kaili, you're supposed to give feedback to at least three people. Don't post a track asking for feedback, when you can't even be bothered to give others some constructive criticism.

[kaili]

Killa, you're supposed to give feedback to at least three people. Don't post a track asking for feedback, when you can't even be bothered to give others some constructive criticism.

er my name aint 'Killa' but ye, didnt realise had to give 3 posts feedback, calm ur panties
ur 38 second clip is alright, specially for that genre, but it could do with more sub for sure
@ alexeyhermann this is an okay start, just really generic bass sounds and again could use more sub and a punchier snare, maybe try some parallel compression or something and make the bass more than just a beatport top ten ripoff

happy now...?

[ParaTroXic]

Yes I am : )

[antman]

Holy Crap haven't done this in a while! Lets get into it!

@alexyhermann Intro is smooth. Reminds me of some sort of action movie, so its really suspenseful. The tune itself is great, the melody fits in really tight with your intro. overall its great. But in terms of mix down it sounds waaaay over compressed/limited. I feel like you completely scooped a frequency out of the struck or something. It just sounds really crunched by a compressor.

@paratroxic Talk about dance floor banger jeeze. This is tight as fuck. Groove is on point. Sounding a bit rough mix down wise, bass kick could be a bit "tighter" but other than that, hope to hear a finished product soon.

@Annex Vibes! That bass screechy sound is really fresh, throw an intro on it and lets hear you finish it up! Mix down is sweet everything is crisp and sounds great, all you've gotta do is finish it. The second track gives off some insane vibes and sounds great. Def wanna hear more of that one!

@zosomagik Such a happy tune with a rather eerie vibe to it. I really like this one its something different. Mix down is great too. Those keys are really crisp as hell. Interesting one for sure!

Heres mine! Lemme know what you guys think (FOR SOME REASON IT SAYS ITS UNAVAILABLE JUST CLICK THE LINK)

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[Alexandercunningham]

@Antman: Great stuff as always, but it kind of lost it a bit too much to the end.

@Kaili: I loved the drop! Was expecting something completly different in the build up, but dang, really cool tune man! Im not on any good speakers for now, so I can't comment on the sound any further..

This is a little thing I recently did with a friend. We are both REALLY new to Ableton, we're going to have a sit down with the mix, but if you have any comments that could help I'd appreciate it a lot.
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[mthrfnk]

Haven't been in this thread for a while...

@Alexandercunningham: Like the dark intro and I like the drums too, everything sounds quite clean in the mix. The chords can sound a little muddy at times but I think if they were much cleaner it wouldn't suit the track. One thing I'd maybe add is a foley or vinyl layer to give some crackle on the top of the track, I think it'd suit. The vocals sound nice and are chopped up well. As you start adding more and more at the end of the track the drums become lost (mainly the kick), try and work some room in the mix for the drums and let the track breathe around them.

@antman: Like the snappy snares and the crisp hats on the intro... the ripping bass is pretty nice too. This isn't the sort of of dubstep I tend to like but I can tell what you're going for. The bass sounds good but perhaps needs a little more warm low end, the high end stabs you add are a bit off imo, they just don't seem to sit well with the bass to me. Definitely a good start to a tune and worth progressing more.

@kaili: The sample on the intro is a little muffled imo, I've used the sample before so I know it's not a great recording but perhaps use EQ or an exciter to bring out the top end so it's more audible. The perc and bass play nicely against one another and the tune progresses well, I specifically like when the reese style stuff comes in towards 2:20, tbh I'd bring this in sooner and make it more prominent. Nice tune!

@alexeyhermann: I don't like how the tail of your snare ends so abrubtly after it sweeps down - try some reverb on that to smooth it. The orchestral and foley sound quite cool together. On the drop the midrange needs more low end for sure, and make it hard mono. The drums also need more power on the drop and need variation from the same pattern. The track overall sounds a little empty, so try bringing the mix together more.

@ParaTroXic: Sounds pretty bouncy from the start but the drums sound kina rough, not much I can judge from the short clip but it could definitely be big if you slot in some nice builds and tighten up the low end drums.

Couple of things from me I'd like feedback on, both electro style stuff:
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[kaili]

cheers man, finally got some decent feedback, ill spot you some back after im done listening to Rinse and ill edit this post
edit: okay well not my kinda music again, but the production sounds very nice and clean, only thing i could say is maybe add more punch to the snare on the first tune, some more 200hz maybe

[zosomagik]

@alexeyhermann- I really like the track, but some of the drums sound muffled and I felt the snare could have had some more snap

@alexandercunningham- Dope vibes, reminds me of xxyyxx. I felt the higher vox could have been a little louder when they first came in, but other than that sick track.

@mthrfnk- I'm a huge fan of layering rain and birds in the background over stuff, so that caught my attention right off the bat. Really uplifting kind of stuff, I really like the track a lot.



Here's something that just got a little too incoherent for me, it's not so much a WIP as a throwaway although I may revisit it. But your feedback is always appreciated!

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[ehbes]

ParaTroXic- personally i'd add in some feedback loops sidechained in to just twist it up and make it a bit darker, but thats more my style.

Alexandercunningham- id change the focus of the tune from the drums to that lead you have, on kind of a XXYYXX vibe.

antman- i reckon you change up the drums to something a little more dancehall ish and you could have a real nice Coki style tune

Dont watch the intro as its just there to give context to the rest of it. if it says unavailable just click the link

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[Augment]

@ehbrums1: Shit's weird haha! I like it though. The main sound you have sounds very thin though, some lower frequencies wouldn't do any harm to it. The beat is groovy, hi hats are a tad loud tho. Some more elements to it would fill it out pretty nicely, if nothing but just some other pads.

@zosomagik: The kick doesn't really fit the whole vibe imo, maybe try a kick with another transient/lowpass this one. Reaaally chilled out though, the vocal could be dropped as I find it more disturbing to the whole vibe than anything. Some switch ups, and some new stuff introduced throughout the track would make it not sound like just a loop. Maybe another chord sequence at some point to spice things up.

@mthrfnk: Not much to say to you mate, I like most of your tracks alot. Only thing is that your mixdowns seem to lack fullness to me in the lower mids. Not sure if you deliberately eq these out? But atleast to me it makes it sound thinner. Tried adding a fat saw under the supersaws, eq'ing the top end of it out and leaving the lower freqs to make the whole drop sound fatter? Other than that, it's awesome as fuk.

Alright, so one of the tunes I'm working on at the moment. Other than the obvious mixdown, anything else I should change about this? Don't expect any dubstep though, pretty far from that haha

EDIT: Updated the WIP a bit
https://soundcloud.com/blinkesko/linkin ... ix/s-w9uIJ

[npcompl33t]

@blinkesko
Intro sounds pretty epic man - I like the bass you have there. The kick you have though doesnt seem to do it justice in my opinion - it is hard for me to really pick it out. I think during the verse your base could use a bit more movement - just playing the 4 note progression seems to get a bit old for me, but that is probably just personal taste. I think towards the end you could have some other instruments come in to make the finale a bit more epic. The end seems a bit abrupt as well.

@ehbrums1
Seems like a good start - but it seem like it doesnt really have any kind of musical ideas in it- just kind of sounds like random noises. It seems well mixed, although the kick gets on my nerves after a bit.

@zosomagik
Get some stereo width in there man! Cool sounds but nearly everything sounds like it is straight mono - absolutely nothing on the sides at all - it is hard for me to focus on anything else haha.

mthrfnk
I listened to your first song - it sounds really well produced. Good sounds - nice stereo image, and I can't really hear anything wrong with it from a technical standpoint - other than i might add a bit more low end to the kick, but that is probably just personal taste. The only thing I would really say might need some work is your arrangement - I like the lead melody - but I feel like your breakdown in the center could be written so that it is a derivative of the main motif but maybe doesnt quite resolve, so that when it picks back up you really feel it. Pretty cool musical motifs but I don't really feel any movement in it if you get what I am saying. Really nice work though.

Here is my track
https://soundcloud.com/npcompl33t/shinra/s-KpOCa

it is the first song from a new project I am starting with a friend. Curious to know what you guys think. Thanks!

EDIT: For some reason it is saying track unavailable when i try to play it - so if the embedded player doesnt work please use the link.

[Dizzo]

zosomagik - You bring something in at 0:36 that i think sounds really good but it sounds kinda quite. If you do ever revisit this you might wanna raise that a bit. All in all i really like it up until the 1 minute mark. I personally dont think that vocal fits the song very well at all. I get its a really laid back vocal but its very raspy and it almost sounds out of tune. Theres also some zaps or something that kinda fills in the vocals - im not quite sure whether i do or dont like them - i would also experiment with that little part. But aside from those two things i really like the over chillness of it.

mthrfnk - Its seriously hard to pick apart your work but for monologue it sounds like you bring in a completely new sound for the first drop (i start to hear it right at 1:26) to me its a little overpowering. I get that drops are supposed to be that way but with the super happy vibe and the way the intro is it sounds a little out of place. Wish i could give you more but your work is just too good to really pick apart and this song in particular reminded me big time of kaskade.

alexeyhermann - The grittyness of this track is really awesome. I think you can do a bit more with the drums than the simple kick and snare. The simpleness of the drums gets very repetitive after a while. I think that even just an extra kick here and there will fix that. Those hits that fill in the bass like right at 0:45 and 0:47 sound really out of place to me. I dont know what else would work better but they sound just awkward and to add to that they are really high in pitch compared to everything else. Maybe even just lowering them might make them sound better - but i dont know though. All the other fills work out really well though, its just that one. Overall though really like the dark almost electric guitar grit i get from this.

Heres something ive just started - im kinda going for moombahton but im having a really tough time just getting the lead to sit well in the mix (this is really my main problem but dont just focus on that). This is a super rough draft but just let me know if you guys have any ideas to make the lead sit nicer. Other than that since its such a rough draft also let me know if the volume levels are good or if anything is off and if the overall melody sounds good too. Im always open to interpretation for my melodies
If it doesnt work just click on the link
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This is kind of a reference because i think that lead in the track sits really good in the mix and this is kinda what im going for in the track im working on.
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[PhaserBass]

@blinkesko Nice work c: I love the kinda mellow feel it has. For me the snare is a bit too powerful for the tune as it is such beautiful and dreamy. Could also be that my ears are just playin around with me Anyway a good tune overall. Likin it )

@npcompl33t Whoa I dunno what to think I was surprised of the techy sound I ran into hmmmm I think the synth starting at approximately 1:11 messes things up a bit. Not much but it started to bother me somehow. Loving the part which starts at 1:42 <3 Reminds me of my trappy hip hop instrumental days c:

@Stargazer IMO the synth is a bit too wet and loud. Turn it down a notch and listen what it sounds like c: Also I think you need more power to your kick. Layer a punchy short kick with it, compress and eq. That should do the trick I like your concept. Keep it going and have some chips. :>

Soooo this is my newest clip I managed to export out of FL. I know there is a weird sounding part at 0:15 but anyway. Some sound effect hints would be useful ^-^.
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lol 1337th post ^^

[Ocelots Revolver]

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Love the atmosphere in the intro. A lot of these one-shot sounds and lead need to be pushed farther back in the mix though, a tune like this doesn't usually throw things right in your face. Drums sound bare, needs some kind of effects or reverb. Feel like this could use a shaker loop in the background or something. Hat sounds too loud and could use other hat samples to compliment it. Awkward drum rhythm doesn't quite work but I see what you're going for and with more editing maybe you can nail it. Lead synth is very simple but matches the character of the tune perfectly, needs reverb and effects badly though. Would appreciate the tasteful addition of pads, super long reverb tails during the drop don't do it for me. Feeling like a subtle arpeggio in the higher register or something like that could do wonders to keep the track progressing after the first 16 bars or so of the drop. I like the rhythmic sub bass but could use some variations and a strong bass up to the 500 hz range or so to compliment its efforts at times. Lots of room in this track to throw bring in strong elements to develop the melody.

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Feel like it comes in too strong and loud. Fan of the buildup at 40. Techno-y drop isn't my thing but its catchy as fuck. Snare sounds weak as fuck, could even use a clap here. Great breakdown, good panning into kind of a trappy drop, which would be entirely boring if it werent for the change in rhythm so I find it a little gimmicky. Short break into another technoy drop, does this track have any direction? Choose a couple angles and commit to them instead of drasticly changing things every 16 bars please. Guitarish kind of lead at 2:05 doesn't have an interesting enough melody to be so prominent, put it into the backgroud more. Huge drop again at 2:40ish, big fan of this but once again it lasts for like 8 seconds and its onto the next thing. No consistency in this track. Like the hip hoppy snare and crash fills. Overall a lot of great material and concepts to work in this track but the arrangement needs to be completely redone.

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Could def, see this twisty bass loop going somewhere, dig the groove. The kick doesn't seem to match the rest of the track, would like to hear something layered on top of it to add some high end. Snare is good but sounds naked. Buildup could use a little more restraint, I'd filter the bass loop and simplify the pattern it plays. Drop gets repetitive, throw some one shots in there for a moment to get away from the bass sound.




My WIP:

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[Dodecadylan]

@ Ocelots - Love the drums, great riddim to them. the synth in the buildup just before the drop seems a bit too prominent for my likings though, but then my headphones are quite excited on the hi's.

another thing i would say is i feel like the bass in that drop is a bit too weak, like, could maybe use some fattening up. although this is my opinion i can see how others could disagree, great track for sure! good feels.


@machinima - awesome wonky bass, love the patch, especially love the vibratoey bit towards the end. my issue with the track is the lack of drum layers, the hat pattern that comes in is good, but i feel there could be maybe some more hi's going on in there to fill in the gaps between dat kick n dat snare. also reckon could use some changing up, as well as maybe some more synths other than the rise to make the thing a bit more intriguing.


@ebrahms - mad stuff, the intro is very offputting, but i did like it when the drums kicked in, also like them weird wet sounds that are in the intro. Think of maybe adding in a thicker sound, maybe even just some sub to go with the lead. as well as that some description of a follow-in to the drop such as a rise.
must say im not too keen on the melody that is played, but it does work when the other elements come in, maybe try changing it up at the start?



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Here is my track, there's loads of random crackling that occurs and i can't for the life of me work out why. any tips would be appreciated.

[Coolschmid]

@paratroxic: That is really really cool. Maybe I'm missing something because I'm on my shitty headphones, but it sounds like something really interesting that deadmau5 would put out. Finish it up! I think it might sound better if you switch the clap to something more hard hitting (but still small) like a little snare IMHO. The idea is top notch, its already something I would sit and listen to or throw into a mix.

@phaserbass: Great bass noise, but gets repetitive. Probably going to need to change it up more than just adding in little effects. Maybe try a little melody in there, or some more radical modulation?

@ebruhms: I don't know man, I'm not really feeling it. Having trouble getting into it. Sounds scary as fuck. I've never been a fan of really wierd beats, so its probably just me personally. Really cool noises and nice mix though.

Here's something I made, the vocal sample was such a shot in the dark really, and when I was just starting with it it was the wierdest thing ever. I think it shaped up into something kind of cool, need opinions on pretty much everything. I have listened to this song so much in the process of making it that I am completely desensitized to it, I need to know what people actually think
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