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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:09 am

DRTY wrote:That's even more ridiculous than any other theory mentioned so far. Flouride is naturally IN water anyway
that is true, as true as the history of fluoride being used as i explained, documented by historians
DRTY wrote: slightly altering the amount isn't going to fucking brainwash you.
says who and why is he more trustful than those who claim the opposite?
DRTY wrote:I've been using toothpaste for 23 years, and I'm just fine.
says you
DRTY wrote:You really need to stop thinking everything is a conspiracy working against you because it isn't. Wake up and enjoy your life. And avoid bullshit like this, because one day you'll lose it completely and start taking this cult propaganda literally and start throwing your money into the Eden project or some other scientologyesque bullshit.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:13 am

alien pimp wrote:like what, jokes from when i was your age?
Judging by the fact you said you had Napster as a teenager, I think I'm probably older than you. :)

DRTY's right anyway, this is ludicrous. You need to stop being scared of everything.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:22 am

magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:like what, jokes from when i was your age?
Judging by the fact you said you had Napster as a teenager, I think I'm probably older than you. :)

DRTY's right anyway, this is ludicrous. You need to stop being scared of everything.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by DRTY » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:25 am

alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:like what, jokes from when i was your age?
Judging by the fact you said you had Napster as a teenager, I think I'm probably older than you. :)

DRTY's right anyway, this is ludicrous. You need to stop being scared of everything.
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Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:37 am

now shut up, read if you can and thank me for doing the work for you, lazy sedated asses!
when you're done i'll give you a ton more

http://www.fluoride-journal.com/98-31-2/312103.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1262 ... t=Abstract

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1250 ... t=Abstract

http://www.fluorideresearch.org/393/fil ... 73-178.pdf

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2428 ... t=Abstract

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/pin ... -1997.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1127 ... t=Abstract

http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/bon ... k1971.html

http://www.slweb.org/lee-osteosarcoma.html
Most of the world has rejected fluoridation. Only America where it originated, and countries under strong American influence persist in the practice. Denmark banned fluoridation when its National Agency for Environmental Protection, after consulting the widest possible range of scientific sources, pointed out that the long-term effects of low fluoride intakes on certain groups in the population (for example, persons with reduced kidney function), were insufficiently known [70]. Sweden also rejected fluoridation on the recommendation of a special Fluoride Commission, which included among its reasons that: "The combined and long-term environmental effects of fluoride are insufficiently known" [71]. Holland banned fluoridation after a group of medical practitioners presented evidence that it caused reversible neuromuscular and gastrointestinal harm to some individuals in the population [72].

Environmental scientists, as well as many others, tend to doubt fluoridation. In the United States, scientists employed by the Environmental Protection Agency have publicly disavowed support for their employer's pro-fluoridation policies [73]. The orthodox medical establishment, rather weak or even ignorant on environmental issues, persist in their support, as do most dentists, who tend to be almost fanatical about the subject. In English- speaking countries, unfortunately, the medical profession and its allied pharmaceutical lobby (the people who sell fluoride) seem to have more political influence than environmentalists.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:39 am

I asked for science on mind control.

Mind control science please... that was the stuff that got me involved in this. Britain's already got rid of flouride in most authorities (as has most of Europe), so I want to know why it's thought of as a mind control/sedation conspiracy.

We've already shown with some logical science that flouride certainly isn't the main ingredient in Prozac - is that the only cornerstone of this argument? Surely you've got a bit more understanding on the matter you could share? Or will you hide behind ambiguity yet again?

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:43 am

No, you see, a source is only valid if it agrees with what he already thinks. :wink: :lol:
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:45 am

magma wrote:I asked for science on mind control.

Mind control science please... that was the stuff that got me involved in this. Britain's already got rid of flouride in most authorities (as has most of Europe), so I want to know why it's thought of as a mind control/sedation conspiracy.

Thanks!
i don't fucking care what you asked, you're the only one insisting on mind control, i only said it's a sedative among others, i'm not here to serve you, i did it already too much, shit up and read about how toxic fluoride is and what it does to your brain too, if you want more do your own fucking research
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:49 am

alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:I asked for science on mind control.

Mind control science please... that was the stuff that got me involved in this. Britain's already got rid of flouride in most authorities (as has most of Europe), so I want to know why it's thought of as a mind control/sedation conspiracy.

Thanks!
i don't fucking care what you asked, you're the only one insisting on mind control, i only said it's a sedative among others, i'm not here to serve you, i did it already too much, shit up and read about how toxic fluoride is and what it does to your brain too, if you want more do your own fucking research
Cool. Did my own research quite a while ago, came to the conclusion it was much a do about nothing, but it didn't matter because generally, flouridation is outlawed in my country anyway. I grew up with flouridated water and appear to have turned out ok.

The prozac thing interested me last night, but having done a bit of research I'm fairly happy with it.

You carry on, son. It's just nice to know how your "science" works. ;)
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:50 am

Alien, when I linked you to government and official papers (what you've just linked Magma to) you claimed I couldn't because that's who the conspiritor was?[/quote]

you can't help avoiding an actual lecture, can you?
isn't that the normal procedure, why don't you ask me if i lie and then believe my answer?
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:53 am

magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:I asked for science on mind control.

Mind control science please... that was the stuff that got me involved in this. Britain's already got rid of flouride in most authorities (as has most of Europe), so I want to know why it's thought of as a mind control/sedation conspiracy.

Thanks!
i don't fucking care what you asked, you're the only one insisting on mind control, i only said it's a sedative among others, i'm not here to serve you, i did it already too much, shit up and read about how toxic fluoride is and what it does to your brain too, if you want more do your own fucking research
Cool. Did my own research quite a while ago, came to the conclusion it was much a do about nothing, but it didn't matter because generally, flouridation is outlawed in my country anyway. I grew up with flouridated water and appear to have turned out ok.

The prozac thing interested me last night, but having done a bit of research I'm fairly happy with it.

You carry on, son. It's just nice to know how your "science" works. ;)
apparently you missed the bibliography i presented you, as a really curious mind interested in the truth, those studies aren't worth a click for you, you were just upset earlier i don't watch your pitiful movie excerpt you presented as an argument
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Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:58 am

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Examples of dental fluorosis in 8- and 9-year old children
who grew up in fluoridated Auckland, New Zealand

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:02 am

According to the World Health Organization, in combination with certain other factors (e.g., sub-optimal nutrition, kidney disease, etc.), a chronic fluoride intake of between 2.0 and 8.0 mg/day can produce the pre-clinical stage of skeletal fluorosis, a debilitating and/or crippling bone disease. The pre-clinical and early stages of skeletal fluorosis can be mistaken for arthritis. See skeletal.htm and click on "HUMAN". It is noteworthy to mention that in the table below the charts (Table 4B), many 6-mo-old infants are receiving a fluoride intake in mg/kg/day which equals the dose known to cause crippling skeletal fluorosis in adults if maintained.
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:06 am

alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:
magma wrote:I asked for science on mind control.

Mind control science please... that was the stuff that got me involved in this. Britain's already got rid of flouride in most authorities (as has most of Europe), so I want to know why it's thought of as a mind control/sedation conspiracy.

Thanks!
i don't fucking care what you asked, you're the only one insisting on mind control, i only said it's a sedative among others, i'm not here to serve you, i did it already too much, shit up and read about how toxic fluoride is and what it does to your brain too, if you want more do your own fucking research
Cool. Did my own research quite a while ago, came to the conclusion it was much a do about nothing, but it didn't matter because generally, flouridation is outlawed in my country anyway. I grew up with flouridated water and appear to have turned out ok.

The prozac thing interested me last night, but having done a bit of research I'm fairly happy with it.

You carry on, son. It's just nice to know how your "science" works. ;)
apparently you missed the bibliography i presented you, as a really curious mind interested in the truth, those studies aren't worth a click for you, you were just upset earlier i don't watch your pitiful movie excerpt you presented as an argument
shut up and read!
The movie wasn't an argument, it was a joke about water purity (it's about an army general who's obsessed with water flouridation). You then didn't watch it and immediately then brought up flouridation as a massive conspiracy.

It was all terribly ironic! I'm still giggling a little bit. Wasn't as good as the DHMO part, though. Beautiful.

I found a couple of those links last night - read a bit on the anti-flouridation campaign, but none of it was very conclusive. If I get some proper time today (answering your posts is easy, reading science takes concentration) I'll have a look, but I'm pretty much happy with it.

The physical medical effects are a matter for science and democracy - democracy in this country and most of Europe has outlawed flouridation anyway, so it's an entirely moot point. It's an argument that took place, largely, in the 70s and 80s and anti-flouridation won. Most of us ingest flouride every day when we brush our teeth... we don't seem to be dying from it.

The interesting bit was the mind control and sedation stuff, because that's the controversial (read: a little bit mental) part. I'm not really interested in the rest of the debate. So if you'd like to keep my interest - post mind control and sedation science.

And anyway, isn't this thread about Coca Cola? Shouldn't you be scaring people about that some more?
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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by DRTY » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:11 am

No Alien, you're just being hypocritial, and creating these circular arguments.

Anything I say to you is just shunned off with something in essence of 'yeah but they're part of it', or 'what makes them more right than X'.

You just believe anything you're spoon fed from these internet videos. You are the one being mind washed, me and Magma are only trying to make you realize that for your own good. I haven't been hostile with you and it doesn't look like Magma had, so get off your high horse and stop trying to belittle us with your snide comments.

I'm not avoiding 'a lecture' at all. I'll have a look later if I can but I don't have time to read several full papers right now. I'm busy turning the cogs of the giant machine for the new world order (working).

In ref to what you posted whilst i was writing:

If these papers you're posting have any truth in them, do you not think what they say will be taken into account? I mean, for instance; the paper you posted was a study of country X that put Xppm into the water. So when they do that here, there or wherever, they would change the ppm accordingly.

Actually, look at the root of that webpage; http://www.fluorideresearch.org/ With a quick whois domain check, the guy who's site that is is called Bruce Spittle. With a bit of research on him, you can see one of his other professions is hunting a giant flightless bird called a MOA which has been extinct for almost 600 years.

Information is much harder to spread, and find, than fear. You are living proof of this. Both a preacher and a victim.

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Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:19 am

DRTY wrote:No Alien, you're just being hypocritial, and creating these circular arguments.

Anything I say to you is just shunned off with something in essence of 'yeah but they're part of it', or 'what makes them more right than X'.

You just believe anything you're spoon fed from these internet videos. You are the one being mind washed, me and Magma are only trying to make you realize that for your own good. I haven't been hostile with you and it doesn't look like Magma had, so get off your high horse and stop trying to belittle us with your snide comments.

I'm not avoiding 'a lecture' at all. I'll have a look later if I can but I don't have time to read several full papers right now. I'm busy turning the cogs of the giant machine for the new world order (working).

In ref to what you posted whilst i was writing:

If these papers you're posting have any truth in them, do you not think what they say will be taken into account? I mean, for instance; the paper you posted was a study of country X that put Xppm into the water. So when they do that here, there or wherever, they would change the ppm accordingly.

Actually, look at the root of that webpage; http://www.fluorideresearch.org/ With a quick whois domain check, the guy who's site that is is called Bruce Spittle. With a bit of research on him, you can see one of his other professions is hunting a giant flightless bird called a MOA which has been extinct for almost 600 years.

Information is much harder to spread, and find, than fear. You are living proof of this. Both a preacher and a victim.
if truth is on your side shouldn't you be able to provide solid proofs from a third party too?
do you know what a circular argument is?
what internet videos?
why am i spoon fed by anyone and you're not?
what's wrong with a guy having other scientific occupations besides fluoride study?
how isn't this aplliable to you more than to me: "I haven't been hostile with you and it doesn't look like Magma had, so get off your high horse and stop trying to belittle us with your snide comments." ?

shut up and read, then talk to me when you have a scientific argument against scientific arguments
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Dentist advice:
Remember, children should spit out toothpaste after brushing to avoid getting too much fluoride. If too much fluoride is ingested, a condition known as fluorosis can occur. If your child is too young or unable to spit out toothpaste, consider providing them with a fluoride free toothpaste, using no toothpaste, or using only a "pea size" amount of toothpaste.

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by magma » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:29 am

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In Spain and the UK only around 10% of water is fluoridated. If you're really that scared, buy mineral water.

Do you know anyone that's died from fluoride poisoning? :lol:

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Re: Coke Addiction

Post by alien pimp » Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:42 am

magma wrote:
alien pimp wrote:Image
In Spain and the UK only around 10% of water is fluoridated. If you're really that scared, buy mineral water.

Do you know anyone that's died from fluoride poisoning? :lol:

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