Drumstep and Liquid Drumstep

[pkay]

it's not brand new by any means but its never evolved past anything of 'ahh that's cool!' status.

It's gotten bouncier and a lot more energetic, and therefor far more popular and people are purposely producing it instead of it just being the result of a session

[chico_red]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-25cL7GYYU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SuRetYHqBk

it's not brand new by any means but its never evolved past anything of 'ahh that's cool!' status.

It's gotten bouncier and a lot more energetic, and therefor far more popular and people are purposely producing it instead of it just being the result of a session

Exactly.. now "far more popular and people are purposely producing it". So what is the harm in giving it a name? When there are dozens of tunes being made following a certain formula, it's maybe time to move on from half/double this or that and just give it a single definition.

[ruckspin]

http://www.mediafire.com/?5zary2ywomm

Scuba - So You Think You're Special [Hot Flush]
Alix Perez - 1984 [Shogun]
Morphy - Samsara (Linden Remix) [Nerve]
Kryptic Minds & Leon Switch - Hide the Tears (Loxy & Resound Remix) [Metalheadz]
Phobia & Jubei - Guillotine (Breakage Remix) [Coded Music]
Consequence - 11 Circles [Exit]
Ruckspin & A-Talon - Too Late [Dub]
Lynx & Aaron Jay - Mule [31]
Instra:Mental - No Future [Exit]
Spectrasoul - Organiser (Ramadanman Remix) [Critical]
Stray - Timbre [Critical]
Bulletproof, Cern & Teknik - Scatter the Ashes [Cyanide]
Hive & Gridlok ft. Keaton - Culture [Violence]
Noah D & Focus - Fire Song [Resolute Music]
Benga & Coki - Night (Breakage Remix) [Digital Soundboy]
Amit - Unholy [Commercial Suicide]
Sum One - Hell is... [Planet Mu]
Amit & Outrage - The Sickness [Commercial Suicide]
Martsman - Halow [Medschool]
Calibre - Steptoe [Signature]
Pyro & 154 - War on Error [Nerve]
Amit - Too Many Freedoms [Commercial Suicide]
S.P.Y. - Silent Sleeper [Medschool]
Rufige Kru - Shanghai Dub [Metalheadz]
Blocks - Tangier [Inside Recordings]
Breakage - The Shroud [Digital Soundboy]
Randomer ft. REDS - Autonomy [Medschool]
Skream - Midnight Request Line (Zinc Remix) [Bingo]
Gremlinz ft. Aspect - The Gavel [Soothsayer]
Limewax - Zombie vs Zombie [Position Chrome]
Tech Itch - The Claw [Tech Itch]
Donny - They Find Me [Barcode]
Randomer - Rough Sex [Free Download]

Big tracklist! On the DL for sheezy

Call it drumstep if you like but anyone born before 1990 will call it drum and bass. I called this mix 'half-tempo' because it describes the nature of the dnb that is in the mix. I wasn't trying to invent a sub-genre.

[spydee]

lol the name drumstep sounds silly tho. it sounds as if drum n bass heads heard dubstep and basically tried to make their music like that. sure it must of caused ideas and inspiration but the name would suggest some direct copying.

yes and taking influence from other genres is just not acceptable! You either like DnB or you like Dubstep, but you must not like them both! You are either one head or the other.. make your choice, or feel the wrath of this forum!

save the sarcasm cos you didnt get what i was sayin. of course taking influence is fine, dubstep wouldnt even exist if it wasnt for that....

but the NAME is why ppl are cringing here. it makes is seem like its in dubsteps shadow. not to mention that its pretty unneccesary to package something thats already existed as something new.

[aleks zen]

if people need to utilise smoke and mirrors to propel them selves to fame then fair play. ppl been doing this since day anyway

[chico_red]

Call it drumstep if you like but anyone born before 1990 will call it drum and bass. I called this mix 'half-tempo' because it describes the nature of the dnb that is in the mix. I wasn't trying to invent a sub-genre.

No they won't and no they don't! No need to share my birthday with you, but I was raving in London to the very first Jungle raves and had to deal with you n00bs changing the name to Drum & Bass for some inexplicable reason!
And yes I think you named the mix correctly, but as I mentioned before, I think only one of the tunes (not sure which one) sounds like drumstep as we know it now.
Drumstep isn't such a bad name... not as bad as Garage surely!!!

[CollisionCourse]

Call it drumstep if you like but anyone born before 1990 will call it drum and bass. I called this mix 'half-tempo' because it describes the nature of the dnb that is in the mix. I wasn't trying to invent a sub-genre.

No they won't and no they don't! No need to share my birthday with you, but I was raving in London to the very first Jungle raves and had to deal with you n00bs changing the name to Drum & Bass for some inexplicable reason!
And yes I think you named the mix correctly, but as I mentioned before, I think only one of the tunes (not sure which one) sounds like drumstep as we know it now.
Drumstep isn't such a bad name... not as bad as Garage surely!!!

drum & bass is not the same as jungle nor has it ever been...

[chico_red]

I was raving in London to the very first Jungle raves and had to deal with you n00bs changing the name to Drum & Bass for some inexplicable reason!

drum & bass is not the same as jungle nor has it ever been...

were you at Telepathy in '94 then?
In fact am sure you don't even have a clue why the name changed! It was cultural rather than musical. Jungle had a bad vibe and the name DnB made it more friendly sounding to new audiences.
So can you tell me that you were there and living it during the crossover period?

[CollisionCourse]

lmao, i was 2 years old in 94, so i doubt it. but you were implying the switchover was as easy as a simple name change. jungle has never been the same as drum and bass. you can think what you want though

[chico_red]

lmao, i was 2 years old in 94, so i doubt it. but you were implying the switchover was as easy as a simple name change. jungle has never been the same as drum and bass. you can think what you want though

it's not what I think only.. it is what all the DJs and MCs from back then think! You have only been into this for a few years.. how can you possibly know anything about what happened in the 90s??? Losing a few ragga samples does not justify a name change! The chopped up amen has been ever present.
Oh what am I doing.. your a fucking child.. you haven't got a clue other than what you have read on a few blogs!

[Euphoria]

funny i remember making and hearing stuff like this back when it was called drum and bass...

it's nothing new or special, their just trying to re-invent it.

This.

[CollisionCourse]

it's not what I think only.. it is what all the DJs and MCs from back then think! You have only been into this for a few years.. how can you possibly know anything about what happened in the 90s??? Losing a few ragga samples does not justify a name change! The chopped up amen has been ever present.
Oh what am I doing.. your a fucking child.. you haven't got a clue other than what you have read on a few blogs!

dont give me that patronising "im older than you so im wiser than you" bullshit. at least speak to me at the same level instead of acting like some twat on a high horse. and ive been listening to it for more than "a few years", i might be young but know how it used to be. plus most DRUM & BASS tunes dont even use amens any more. you must think its just jungle with a few extra drum loops lol bless. stop living in the 90's and get a grip you fucking oaf

[chico_red]

dont give me that patronising "im older than you so im wiser than you" bullshit. at least speak to me at the same level instead of acting like some twat on a high horse. and ive been listening to it for more than "a few years", i might be young but know how it used to be. plus most DRUM & BASS tunes dont even use amens any more. you must think its just jungle with a few extra drum loops lol bless. stop living in the 90's and get a grip you fucking oaf

The amen gets so chopped up that it's not recognisable anymore! And being a Dubstep promoter, I think it is hard to say I live in the 90s!
It is not purely because of your age that you are not on the same level, but the fact that you're only just allowed into clubs! You're an internet fan for fuck sake!

[CollisionCourse]

im not even going to bother any more, this whole thread is against you. im not just saying because i dislike you, but you talk a spectacular ammount of utter bullshit

[mt eden]

im not even going to bother any more, this whole thread is against you. im not just saying because i dislike you, but you talk a spectacular ammount of utter bullshit

don't be fucking stupid

[jolly wailer]

so drumstep should be saved as the name for that very formulaic half step tearout dnb sound

tunes like heist - survivor and crissy cris - kick snare drumstep mix

cuz those tunes sounded the most alike out of what I listened to in this thread

like what was referred to as "purposely produced"




the other stuff like steptoe (big tune!) is kind of wot do you call it 2 me.. obv dnb but breaking from the formula


the drumstep chico red is advocating for seems very constricted in what it will sound like - which, fair play - some people will want, much like punters who hear 'dubstep' and think doctor p and not pinch


half time dnb drums with those busy snare ghost notes, some woi woi, reeeeeeeee, whompwhompwhomp


and around and round we go

[therapist]

There will probably be a new movement in a few years where people started producing double-time drumstep having never heard of drum & bass.

[jolly wailer]

brilliant




very idiocracy

[Dark Reign]

so drumstep should be saved as the name for that very formulaic half step tearout dnb sound

tunes like heist - survivor and crissy cris - kick snare drumstep mix

cuz those tunes sounded the most alike out of what I listened to in this thread

like what was referred to as "purposely produced"




the other stuff like steptoe (big tune!) is kind of wot do you call it 2 me.. obv dnb but breaking from the formula


the drumstep chico red is advocating for seems very constricted in what it will sound like - which, fair play - some people will want, much like punters who hear 'dubstep' and think doctor p and not pinch


half time dnb drums with those busy snare ghost notes, some woi woi, reeeeeeeee, whompwhompwhomp


and around and round we go

Spot on

[ruckspin]

I think only one of the tunes (not sure which one) sounds like drumstep as we know it now.

i think only one of the tunes on the caspa/rusko fabric cd (not sure which one) sounds like dubstep, but maybe that's just me