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Are you vegetarian/vegan?

Vegetarian
32
23%
Vegan
3
2%
I eat meat
102
74%
 
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by noam » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:10 pm

people dont always rationalise their moral decisions

there's even sayings we use on a regular basis to describe these events - 'knee-jerk reaction' 'reactionary' etc.

once people are questioned on their moral beliefs, then they rationalise them

some people think everything through, other people really, really don't...

but it depends if you consider subconscious or instinctual reactions/emotions as being rationalised, which itself, is a logical misnomer - rationalising something requires conscious thought.

its not semantics, its just the way people act.

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:11 pm

SCope13 wrote:I eat cows and pigs because they taste good. Just because cats and dogs might also taste good, doesn't mean I would eat them.
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by Johnlenham » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:20 pm

SCope13 wrote:I don't eat cats and dogs because they're my friends. Just because cows and pigs aren't my friends, doesn't mean I would eat them.
Yeah but then 5000 miles away someone wont go near a pig with a ten foot barge pole but will eat a dog without batting an eye lid.
Thats just down to where you were born more than anything.
Ofcourse you can change over a period of time from outside influences but still.
I could never knowingly eat dog because I have an emotional
attachment to them but had say a dog bit my ear off at a young age maybe id be all for killing the bastards and eating them?

Also most of these food animals have been bred to be that way, true wild chickens for example are thin and vicious bastards, perhaps they would be extinct if they wernt so tasty? had people had the hind sight aswell to keep a few alive for the future we might still have american buffalo and dodos roaming about.

Not sure what the point of my post was. More of a rambling mess :dunce:

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by murky21 » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:21 pm

we should merge this thread with the WHAT SNEAKERS YOU WEARING? thread just to see how that changes discussions

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by Zambezi » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:23 pm

5 reasons why I'm fine with eating animals.

You only have to look at our teeth when deciding if we are supposed to eat meat. Canines mofo.

If people didnt eat meat a lot of farm animals would die out as they only exist to be eaten and are too domesticated/stupid to survive in the wild. It's not like I'm eating endangered Tigers or anything.

If you are a vegitarian and you own a dog/cat then your animal is responsible for the deaths of more animals in its pet food then I am in my food.

Vegitarians are really preachy, condescending and irritating which makes me want to eat meat more.

Fillet steak.

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by hugh » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:29 pm

who cares we'll all be eating hyper-nutritional super-genetically modified starch based products in 100 years anyway that give us all the protein, amino acids, electrolytes and vitamins we need :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:31 pm

actually teeth do not show proof that we are supposed to eat meat they show that we have ate meat for such a long time that our bodies have adapted accordingly.
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Post by particle-jim » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:35 pm

eat whatever you like, don't preach about it, simple really
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by Kochari » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:47 pm

I try and do things that are necessary or beautiful (preferably both) and in my opinion eating meat is neither.
Also I think its mad that you have to cook meat and add spices just to make it taste acceptable/not kill you. Pull a carrot out of the ground, job done. I guess I'm just a lazy bastard eh :)
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:48 pm

carrot's taste much nicer slow boiled with sugar mmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by garethom » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:51 pm

Kochari wrote: Also I think its mad that you have to cook meat and add spices just to make it taste acceptable
:a: :a: :a:
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by noam » Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:58 pm

Kochari wrote:I try and do things that are necessary or beautiful (preferably both) and in my opinion eating meat is neither.
Also I think its mad that you have to cook meat and add spices just to make it taste acceptable/not kill you. Pull a carrot out of the ground, job done. I guess I'm just a lazy bastard eh :)
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people who don't recognise the art of good cooking shouldn't make value judgements about those that do

cooking of any kind is beautiful
Also I think its mad that you have to cook meat and add spices just to make it taste acceptable/not kill you
such an odd point of view, like fucking WELL weird lol

just weird middle class modern toss

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:03 pm

noam wrote: just weird middle class modern toss
:lol: :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by noam » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:04 pm

i can never tell if you're laughing AT me or with me :lol: :oops:

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:05 pm

with you in this instance :lol: i find most of what you say well funny (in a good way) to be honest
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by noam » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:06 pm

SWEET

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by capo ultra » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:15 pm

to answer the thread title: Tossers
what is of value and wisdom for one man seems nonsense to another.

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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by magma » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:19 pm

noam wrote:people dont always rationalise their moral decisions

there's even sayings we use on a regular basis to describe these events - 'knee-jerk reaction' 'reactionary' etc.

once people are questioned on their moral beliefs, then they rationalise them

some people think everything through, other people really, really don't...

but it depends if you consider subconscious or instinctual reactions/emotions as being rationalised, which itself, is a logical misnomer - rationalising something requires conscious thought.

its not semantics, its just the way people act.
Instinctive acts are... instinctive... surely? I.e. they don't need to go through the moral filter we just do them? Its easy enough to look back at a past instinctive reaction and question your own morality (insulting someone who accidentally hurt you for example)

Its all a bit Schrödinger otherwise isn't it? Its not (ir)rational until you're asked about it? How would you ever work that out without asking someone and ruining the experiment?
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by Kochari » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:31 pm

noam wrote:
Also I think its mad that you have to cook meat and add spices just to make it taste acceptable/not kill you
such an odd point of view, like fucking WELL weird lol

just weird middle class modern toss
Why is it weird?

I don't see you eating yer meat raw?
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Re: Thoughts on Vegetarians/vegans

Post by AxeD » Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:35 pm

murky21 wrote:we should merge this thread with the WHAT SNEAKERS YOU WEARING? thread just to see how that changes discussions
In a world.. where two awful threads were merged...

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