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lewisr · Post by **lewisr** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:19 pm

D+ wrote:keep it simple

POND LIFE · Post by **POND LIFE** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:28 pm

'high pass everything'

'sub volume thread'

i still dont know how to use compressors properly though

nitz · Post by **nitz** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:35 pm

d1rt1989 wrote:'high pass everything'

'sub volume thread'

i still dont know how to use compressors properly though

HIGH PASS EVERYTHING DAMMM LOL

how to use a compressor man! that's then one!
What you may think is good might not be,, so take it easy producing can be fun when uno what your doing

djake · Post by **djake** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:43 pm

futures_untold wrote:Eat healthy food, maintain a regular sleep pattern & get outside occassionally for fresh air, real sunlight and excersise.......

The quality of any music produced will improve simply because you will be in a better frame of mind as you make it.

i take my hat off to you sir if you can do that

my sleeping pattern is fucked for example got to sleep at 7am this morning.

eating is bad....my mum rekons im really under weight to what i should be.

grow · Post by **grow** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 4:44 pm

LESS IS MORE.

LISTEN DON'T LOOK.

grow · Post by **grow** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:45 pm

Well it is a just a statement. But coupled with the second one "Listen don't look" I stand by the statement. If less is less you will hear it.

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:41 pm

grow wrote:Well it is a just a statement. But coupled with the second one "Listen don't look" I stand by the statement. If less is less you will hear it.

Listen don't look! Thats something I only figured out quite recently, If you stare at the sequencer when you play things back you don't hear everything as clearly as if your staring into space or have your eyes closed.

Where's this sub volume thread? I have been having mad trouble with my subs since I started out. Can never seem to tell how loud it should be. I think I'd find it a bit easier if I had monitors but I have shitty hi-fi speakers (with a shitty hi-fi sub) an I think the EQ on the hi-fi system messes with my mixdowns etc. (I actually can turn it off but then you cant hear the sub *at all* cos its so shit *sigh*)

setspeed · Post by **setspeed** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:43 pm

yep, 3 main ones for me:

1. practise practise practise. it's been said earlier on but there really are no shortcuts. write tunes, finish tunes, start new tunes, keep doing that and after a year or 2 you should be getting somewhere. there are no quick fixes or magic tips!

2. sort out your room/monitors. it'll improve your mixdowns more than any book, plugin or tip ever will.

3. what does the tune NEED to do? practise being able to listen to the tune dispassionately, and write it accordingly - be ruthless, you have to be able to delete any part of it if it doesn't fit, even if that's your favourite bit or was the original idea in the first place. you'll be biased because you wrote it - but just because you wrote it doesn't mean it's good!

blkmsk · Post by **blkmsk** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 6:45 pm

do you!

thats also good life advice i think

grow · Post by **grow** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:03 pm

paravrais wrote:
grow wrote:Well it is a just a statement. But coupled with the second one "Listen don't look" I stand by the statement. If less is less you will hear it.
Listen don't look! Thats something I only figured out quite recently, If you stare at the sequencer when you play things back you don't hear everything as clearly as if your staring into space or have your eyes closed.

Where's this sub volume thread? I have been having mad trouble with my subs since I started out. Can never seem to tell how loud it should be. I think I'd find it a bit easier if I had monitors but I have shitty hi-fi speakers (with a shitty hi-fi sub) an I think the EQ on the hi-fi system messes with my mixdowns etc. (I actually can turn it off but then you cant hear the sub *at all* cos its so shit *sigh*)

Hate to say it bro but your going to have to invest in some monitors. Your fartin in the wind without knowing the sound of your studio and how it translates in stock stereo systems, laptop speakers, surround sound systems etc. Your going to end up wasting enough cds to pay for em anyway

macc · Post by **macc** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 7:36 pm

This, not written by but attributed to Thelonious Monk.

It essentially sums up everything and way more that I thought I'd learned about being a musician and part of a scene and so on, better than I could ever have expressed it.

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:27 pm

^^^^^ So dope... thank you for posting that Macc

One little tidbit I have... from Parson, something I read in and interview with him...

Dont be afraid to turn the sequencer off and listen to the tune in your head. Sometimes you need to hear where it needs to go without listening to it.

Too often I have the loop running for so long that any change I make to it begins to sound 'wrong'. Its good to shut it off once in a while and remember where you were going with a tune and not let the sequencer write it for you.

paravrais · Post by **paravrais** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 10:47 pm

grow wrote:
paravrais wrote:
grow wrote:Well it is a just a statement. But coupled with the second one "Listen don't look" I stand by the statement. If less is less you will hear it.
Listen don't look! Thats something I only figured out quite recently, If you stare at the sequencer when you play things back you don't hear everything as clearly as if your staring into space or have your eyes closed.

Where's this sub volume thread? I have been having mad trouble with my subs since I started out. Can never seem to tell how loud it should be. I think I'd find it a bit easier if I had monitors but I have shitty hi-fi speakers (with a shitty hi-fi sub) an I think the EQ on the hi-fi system messes with my mixdowns etc. (I actually can turn it off but then you cant hear the sub *at all* cos its so shit *sigh*)
Hate to say it bro but your going to have to invest in some monitors. Your fartin in the wind without knowing the sound of your studio and how it translates in stock stereo systems, laptop speakers, surround sound systems etc. Your going to end up wasting enough cds to pay for em anyway

Yeah, at the moment I've been playing my tunes anywhere I go I can hook my Ipod up or go on the internet to see how the levels sound on other things to try and get them right. I really really want some monitors but A: at the moment I have no job >_> and B: I need to invest in some decks first

but hopefully by the end of the year I shall have both.

macc · Post by **macc** » Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:06 pm

kidlogic wrote:^^^^^ So dope... thank you for posting that Macc

One little tidbit I have... from Parson, something I read in and interview with him...

Dont be afraid to turn the sequencer off and listen to the tune in your head. Sometimes you need to hear where it needs to go without listening to it.

Too often I have the loop running for so long that any change I make to it begins to sound 'wrong'. Its good to shut it off once in a while and remember where you were going with a tune and not let the sequencer write it for you.

Yeah man, absolutely A feckin MEN to that.

In a similar way it's the ideas that you have away from the sequencer, those little things that pop into your head and have you scrabbling for a pen or a dictaphone or ANYTHING to write it down, that often make the best and most heartfelt music. Certainly true of a lot of things I have written.

kidlogic · Post by **kidlogic** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:50 am

Macc wrote:
kidlogic wrote:^^^^^ So dope... thank you for posting that Macc

One little tidbit I have... from Parson, something I read in and interview with him...

Dont be afraid to turn the sequencer off and listen to the tune in your head. Sometimes you need to hear where it needs to go without listening to it.

Too often I have the loop running for so long that any change I make to it begins to sound 'wrong'. Its good to shut it off once in a while and remember where you were going with a tune and not let the sequencer write it for you.
Yeah man, absolutely A feckin MEN to that.

In a similar way it's the ideas that you have away from the sequencer, those little things that pop into your head and have you scrabbling for a pen or a dictaphone or ANYTHING to write it down, that often make the best and most heartfelt music. Certainly true of a lot of things I have written.

Why is it you NEVER can find a pen fast enough in those moments?

s & m · Post by **s & m** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:58 am

setspeed wrote:yep, 3 main ones for me:

1. practise practise practise. it's been said earlier on but there really are no shortcuts. write tunes, finish tunes, start new tunes, keep doing that and after a year or 2 you should be getting somewhere. there are no quick fixes or magic tips!

2. sort out your room/monitors. it'll improve your mixdowns more than any book, plugin or tip ever will.

3. what does the tune NEED to do? practise being able to listen to the tune dispassionately, and write it accordingly - be ruthless, you have to be able to delete any part of it if it doesn't fit, even if that's your favourite bit or was the original idea in the first place. you'll be biased because you wrote it - but just because you wrote it doesn't mean it's good!

man that was a really good piece of advice especially #3. you are SOO true with that hit it right on the nail for me anyways. i'll get so jazzed up about my own shit because im making what I like you know...it sounds sweet to me but i'll listen to it a week later and try and really listen to it from an outside perspective and i'll realize parts really dont fit. thanks for that tip though you really reminded me i need to do that it's really easy to get lost in my own music

r · Post by r » Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:12 am

"True genious comes from the heart, not the brain.."

DZA · Post by **DZA** » Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:03 am

futures_untold wrote:Eat healthy food, maintain a regular sleep pattern & get outside occassionally for fresh air, real sunlight and excersise.....

I fail at all of those

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