Lucid dreams

[stephisaint]

get back on it and use it man.

one of the things thats always put aside is that the whole point of becoming lucid in your dreams , is to help you bring more awarness and lucidity to your day to day or 'waking' life.

Do you think that happens?
When I have really intense lucid dreams I feel like I've been awake all night afterwards.. or everything feels slightly dim/colourless

[bright maroon]

Ok what do you call it when your aware of yourself and the things you are doing in a dream..
But are not aware that it is a dream...

That's like a step away from being lucid...

I get that most often..

Whenever I achieve true lucidity in a dream..I slide out almost immediatly.


Something I noticed - Magnesium Chloride
..is a base electrolyte - can be found in Smart Water...or purchased at the pharmacy..

does help..

online it says Magnesium Chloride is essential to the health of corals and crustaceans and
is used to amplify DNA samples during all phases of experimentation...so there.

Calcium Chloride also..found in seaweed vital for healthy sea creatures..increases a cells ability to perform osmosis. Is used to make beer - interesting right - balances the mineral content of the water being used..

[d-T-r]

get back on it and use it man.

one of the things thats always put aside is that the whole point of becoming lucid in your dreams , is to help you bring more awarness and lucidity to your day to day or 'waking' life.

Do you think that happens?
When I have really intense lucid dreams I feel like I've been awake all night afterwards.. or everything feels slightly dim/colourless

it can happen ideally. obviously doesnt always. lucid dreaming is something thats been slightly bastardized by the west to some extent. it is a lot of fun but can be used for a lot more than that.

goes further back. tibetan yogas of dream and sleep / the toltecs etc. A much more whole-some approach and mind-state to the whole thing and how it can improve various things.

not sure about the dim/colourless state... most of the time for me thats quite neutral but one or 2 times for a few days at a time things have been ultra vivid and vibrant. not for a while though. soon

[Blooandwhite]

to start off im really glad to see a lucid dreaming post here awhile ago i did a couple years of intense practice with the stuff; notebooks and notebooks of dreams later i definitely feel like im another level of awareness in everything!

it can happen ideally. obviously doesnt always. lucid dreaming is something thats been slightly bastardized by the west to some extent. it is a lot of fun but can be used for a lot more than that.

haha its true! I initially got into the prospect of lucid dreaming to do things like meet fictional characters but i wound up finding a really intense sense of enlightenment. at the time i didnt really know what it meant but it totally changed my life, it wasnt until i started studying eastern philosophy at school that i had any sense of context.

When I have really intense lucid dreams I feel like I've been awake all night afterwards.. or everything feels slightly dim/colourless

I think i could see why this would happen depending on how you are using the word intense. If you're referring to phenomena within the dream that are tangibly intense (wacky shit happening like crazy shifts in thought flashing lights crazy sounds sex pain etc etc) its probably happening within a series of brainwave cycles with a small amplitude.

most people probably wont feel rested if they have a night with long periods of shallow brainwave cycles (which are ripe for vivid dreams and lucid dreams), which might explain why youve felt youve been awake all night. it takes deep, large amplitude brainwaves to get that restful sleep (which happen in generally predictable intervals).

theres also intense in the sense that you might have a really profound moment of awareness and being. its really unique and theres not really any way for me to describe it. but in a sense i think that could also leave one feeling as if theyve been awake all night, given that would be in a very specific meaning of "awake"

[WhosZena]

Anyone get Lucid flashbacks?
off an on all the time
Reminds me how everything's connected

[stephisaint]

to start off im really glad to see a lucid dreaming post here awhile ago i did a couple years of intense practice with the stuff; notebooks and notebooks of dreams later i definitely feel like im another level of awareness in everything!

it can happen ideally. obviously doesnt always. lucid dreaming is something thats been slightly bastardized by the west to some extent. it is a lot of fun but can be used for a lot more than that.

haha its true! I initially got into the prospect of lucid dreaming to do things like meet fictional characters but i wound up finding a really intense sense of enlightenment. at the time i didnt really know what it meant but it totally changed my life, it wasnt until i started studying eastern philosophy at school that i had any sense of context.

When I have really intense lucid dreams I feel like I've been awake all night afterwards.. or everything feels slightly dim/colourless

I think i could see why this would happen depending on how you are using the word intense. If you're referring to phenomena within the dream that are tangibly intense (wacky shit happening like crazy shifts in thought flashing lights crazy sounds sex pain etc etc) its probably happening within a series of brainwave cycles with a small amplitude.

most people probably wont feel rested if they have a night with long periods of shallow brainwave cycles (which are ripe for vivid dreams and lucid dreams), which might explain why youve felt youve been awake all night. it takes deep, large amplitude brainwaves to get that restful sleep (which happen in generally predictable intervals).

theres also intense in the sense that you might have a really profound moment of awareness and being. its really unique and theres not really any way for me to describe it. but in a sense i think that could also leave one feeling as if theyve been awake all night, given that would be in a very specific meaning of "awake"

The second one... It's a really bizarre feeling, like when you meditate and it feels like you're in a completely different, timeless place.. almost dreaming but awake at the same time. You have this incredible vividness and then all of a sudden you're back into reality, gutted. You feel better for the experience but sometimes it can be tiring.. Sounds like you know what I mean

[Blooandwhite]

Sounds like you know what I mean

you bet! one thing is for sure, i dont think ill ever forget some of the experiences ive had exploring the world of lucid dreaming

[xarcane]

I do feel burnt out after lucid dreaming, but everything usually seems ultra-colourful after a lucid dream, not dim.

[BLAHBLAHJAH]

From m experience I think it's the contrast that fucks up the 'wakened life'

Seems almost like a switch of dimensions too... Like the roles of time and space are the polar opposites/vice-versa in each

More of a curse though. Not a big fan of sleep as it is, mighty tiresome having four days on the trot of being awake in completely different states

[RandomEyez]

I've had some really amazing lucid dream experiences. Talked about them a bit in the sleep paralysis thread and always enjoy reading about other peoples experiences.

The most amazing thing i've had is the flying and the zooming out to the edge of the universe looking back at earth getting smaller and smaller til it disappears completely. Pretty mind blowing to find yourslef floating around at the edge of the galaxy in a completely lucid state. It was probably the most peaceful situation i've ever experienced. Think it would be classed as astral projection but not completely sure.

More recently though had a lucid dream where i was standing in my room then the door opened and in walked 3 identical versions of the same mate, followed by 3 identical versions of another all but all had different mannerisms. Had a short conversation but got a little over excited and woke up. But that was a first.

Also was in a room with my dad and brother and that moment came when u realise you're probably dreaming ,so you do something to test if you are. Asked my dad to do a backflip as he's a big guy and wouldn't be capable of it in real life. So he does one but lands cracking his back off the side of the bed! So he ends up lying on the floor in agony and I felt so horrified I woke up

Think the key to lasting longer in them is to stay relaxed and not get too excited about anything. Which is hard when you having so much fun

Oh and stephisaint, if you want to fly head to the the nearest window and throw yourself threw it! (just make sure you're positive its a dream first ) Usually works for me, but guess you may have tried that already

[bjackman]

I've been trying on and off to lucid dream since this thread first appeared, and it's been fucking great reading everyone's experiences - best thread ever! I read this book by chance around the time i started trying, it's a good read for those who like science writing: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Counting-Sheep- ... 0006551726

I've not done too well, it seems some people's minds are just set up in ways that are conducive to it, whereas others aren't. It's very annoying since my girlfriend does it with ease and has done all her life. I've even laid next to her and given her instructions for what to dream about - she can't answer with more than moans and grunts but i can tell she's going through my instructions because she gets mad horny (a great trick for those with lucid-dreaming girlfriends by the way!)

I've only had moments of lucidity a couple of times. The first I was in a large barn swinging on a log I'd hung from the ceiling, showing off to my friends, and I managed to think "this is bullshit - I must be dreaming". After a few seconds of excitement I immediately "woke up" into another dream and dreamt about thinking "awesome i nearly had a lucid dream". I felt like such a mug when I actually woke up, like "fucking subconscious .. can't believe I fell for that".

The other time happened after I realised I often have unpleasant dreams about driving: My car suddenly becomes a 7L beast and the brakes don't work, or I'm driving a really fast tractor and get over excited and accidentally skid it onto my mate's finely kept golf course, destroying the green (i don't actually have a mate who owns a golf course by the way).
So one night when my unrealistically fast Clio 1.2 was speeding out of my control into a busy roundabout I clocked that I was dreaming and had the chance to unleash my Gran Turismo 3 skills on the streets of Bristol without fear of a ticket. That was pretty good until I reached some sort of "destination" and lost lucidity.

So I've basically just added my experiences to the pile there, but if other people have been reading this thread as fervently as me then I've not wasted my time!

[xarcane]

I've not been trying to lucid dream recently, but my brain's been trying to make me lucid dream. A couple of nights ago I was on my way to fight some guy at night and I got outside and it was bright daylight, I asked some guy what the time was and he was like "It's 20 (minutes) to 11" I was like "Fu...." then I woke up. The time was 20 minutes to 11, but only on the bedroom clock I hadn't reset....

Then last night I had this weird dream. I was raised in fundamental Chhristianity so I used to fear demons and stuff, and this huge massive red demon who fed off people's creativity kept appearing. He was stalking me and killing people/his minions. He had this awful method of killing as well, he'd attack them with a huge mace, cripple them, then literally bite through their skulls and suck out their brains, did this at least three times. Sounds funny now, but the crunching as he crippled them and then bit through the top of their skulls was fucking disgusting.

He had just killed a minion and then appeared right next to me, and was about to do the same to me. I realised it was a dream by this point so with a sense of humour I just pointed my index finger at him and said "Poof, dissapear!!!" and he burst into red dust. Then I thought "Fuck it I'm not doing this", so I tried to wake up. And no lie I woke up about 7 times in the space of 2 minutes. Every time I woke up I'd realise something was wrong and I was still dreaming and try and wake up again... and again... and again. When I finally woke up after the 8th time I was just like "Shiiiiiiiiyyyyyyit....". Completely merked Inception.

[xarcane]

Reason I don't lucid dream anymore is because of a weird experience I had. I was going round incinerating people in a dream, just teleporting from place to place, causing carnage and then teleporting away, when suddenly I got encircled by a group of people. They all started TALKINGREALLLOUDLYATTHESAMETIME, and I started getting disoriented and slipping out of lucidity. iI felt like I was falling asleep, the whole world starting going black and I got really drowsy. I used to watch dragonball z so I did what they do in that, got really angry, released a massive burst of energy and incinerated everyone.

I was freaked out by this so I tried to teleport away, somehow got rerouted and ended up trapped in this giant prison maze. I tried to teleport out but every time I did I'd only end up in a different part of the maze. I eventually gave up and walked around for five minutes and discovered how huge the place actually was. It's a dream, you can tear down skyscrapers with your hands, but somehow I knew that wasn't gonna work here. Eventually I figured "this is a dream, if I just imagine I'm walking to the exit I'll get there", so I did. Still took bloody ages, even with no wrong turns and I swear I only saw one other person in there, some janitor that might've actually been watching me. As soon as I reached the exit some old mystic-looking white guy caught me off guard and zapped me with this blue energy that shot me out of the dream.

It really freaked me out for several reasons.

Why did the group of people try and talk at me instead of simply blasting me? That talking tactic is something that would only work in a dream, and something I'm sure I'dve never have thought of.

Why couldn't I teleport out of that prison thing? I can teleport across continents why would I be unable to teleport out of a single building? And who the hell was that janitor guy, was he watching me?

Lastly the old mystics blast. It was less powerful than my blasts, somehow I could tell, which is why I was pissed off at getting caught off guard. It was less of an actual blast - more like pure blue light that just zapped me out of my dream via the shock of being shot at, whereas I was going round full on incinerating people. If he could shoot a beam of light, he could shoot a beam of energy, so why did he limit his power to just a beam of light? What the hell was I doing if I was full on incinerating people? And most importantly... was that my subconscious?

[knell]

all of xarcane's stories sound better than 95% of movie's ive watched recently

[RandomEyez]

Thats some next level shit

[menacetosobriety]

Ha, I don't see anything when I dream so am quite jealous of all these vivid technicolour escapades

Am unable to visualise. Only time I ever seen closed eye images is when under the influence of psychedelics


Otherwise it's all a black void

[sonar]

I always get really drowsy in dreams, normally in the morning when i am slipping in and out of sleep. really horrible. In my dreams i'm like uncontrollably drunk and can't do anything about it.

[wubstep]

Had my closest to a lucid dream last night, but still no where near.

Was basically dreaming (which I very rarely do) but it felt like I was awake. Had no control and didn't know I was dreaming, but it felt more vivid than ever. Kept waking up all night as well, think that must have been when I was going lucid or something.

[noam]

i could feel myself fallin into a lucid dream and i already knew it, and i already knew what i was gona do (bone these two girls who were round at my mates last night- though ive boned one of em in real life before)... but i just couldnt get past the falling under stage.

BARE annoying. i'd get these ink blot type images, in blacks and purples dotting my 'vision' then i would fall into them and seemingly be falling through bricks, like going underground, then i kept getting dragged back up the way i came, i'd keep fighting it and falling down again and my face would tingle (i get all tingly when i lucid dream, normally when i wake up) but i just couldnt make it 'into' the dream as such. ah well tomoro...

[Mortal]

Not achieved lucidity as of yet.

However, the other night i had a dream in which i met Burial.
I simply asked him 'how he does it'
His reply was 'I can't tell you anything you don't already know, because you're in a dream'

typical burial reply...