IM SO SICK OF FAKE ASS DIGITAL DJS!!!!

[alien pimp]

Next time I come here I want to hear the guy with 20 records in his box, and blows my mind.

the only sentence that makes sense in a bucket of bollocks

[Uncle Mike]

just /kill this thread.it's fucking pointless.
i've read it numerous times it just doesn't go anywhere.

just a fucking redundant exercise in nihilism.
some people perefer vinyl others digital.
and at the end of the day, we'll listen to both depending on the circumstances so what's the point?

[djake]

i got bored at page 4

[yong]

I’m pretty sure Herbie didn’t want this digitally downloaded. I’m pretty sure. He probably didn’t even have it in mind to have it spun somewhere, DJed or pitched up and down. But the idea is when you pitch something up and down the record still remains a record. When you take it out of this form you no longer associate this imagery with that individual, these sounds. Now they become abstract concepts. “Who’s Herbie Hancock? Who gives a fuck, I got that song.” See that’s where it goes, and that’s the danger. It’s convenient, ain’t got to carry around records. Ain’t got to worry about customs. You can bring your whole collection to a party. Your whole collection? I mean, I walk into a party and I know you got access to 50.000 records. 50.000! You know what I’m going to expect out of you? I’m going to want my DNA changed! (laughter) You’re going to have to change my DNA because you got 50.000 records and an hour to play. An hour to play? How the fuck are you going to play 50.000 records and an hour to play? Alright, OK, change my life! I walk in, my life is not changed. I leave, I’m mad. I’m at the door, I’m starting with the promoter because I’m drunk, and they told me the guy had 50.000 songs to play. "I came in with expectations and I had six gin-tonics, dammit! I want my money back. You better not pay him tonight! Don’t pay that DJ nothing! Next time I come here I want to hear the guy with 20 records in his box, and blows my mind."[...]
That’s the other scary thing, it’ll take you the better part of ten years to collect, in my opinion, the amount of vinyl that’s worthy of being presented to other people. Take you, what? A couple minutes? To download somebody’s whole collection. Now the question is, is it worth the convenience? Maybe. But are you missing out on all of the knowledge that goes into looking for those specific records? Specifically, because you know ‘so-and-so’ played on this record, ‘so-and-so’ played on that record, are you going to take that time and get your knuckles dusty, and go meet another crazy obsessed individual just like yourself? You got to take that time. Oh, you can meet somebody online, their name is James and they got a big dick and big eyes. What is that shit? Motherfucker’s name is Jones, she got 36 double D’s, no! You meet somebody at the record store and they’re picking out records. See, that’s the problem with a lot of things now: the community is going from being something where you go out and have conversations with people and deal with individuals. Now everybody can hide behind these phoney masks. Do whatever they want. You never know what you’re getting.[...]
But more importantly, what I want to focus on is that you can’t replace a record collection with a file collection. There’s no way to replace it, and it’s up to every one of you if you’re interested in playing music out, to decide if you’re going to deal with both types of formats. Realise, they’re two different types of camps, you’re really cutting yourself off from individuals who respect the idea of collection. It’s a family and they will be able to tell if you don’t have those records. And they’re not going to look for you for those records. They’re not going to be interested in replacing an important piece that you might have lost or damaged. If they knew that you went the cheap way and just downloaded it anyway, that’s the other part of it.

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/vide ... _for_the_d

Wow, what a cock.

lol he doesn't know anything about digital files

[bagelator]

neither horrorshow nor mud got digital release

on bleep they did. for a fact.

yep they did...i have em...i have all the dmz they had up before it was taken down

neither horrorshow nor mud got digital release

on bleep they did. for a fact.

i stand corrected.

still, my vinyls of them sound better than your hooky mpfrees

[HamCrescendo]

Aint nothing wrong with digital DJing, personal preference. I prefer vinyl but as a result cant really play too many genres cus of prices.


Made me laugh today though, a girl I know organised a birthday party for a friend and got some lads in to do the DJing, they said they would do it as more or less as a favour. They brought a laptop down and played songs through itunes. Now they're trying to charge her 170 quid for it. Thats the sort of shit I hate.

[Pistonsbeneath]

neither horrorshow nor mud got digital release

on bleep they did. for a fact.

yep they did...i have em...i have all the dmz they had up before it was taken down

neither horrorshow nor mud got digital release

on bleep they did. for a fact.

i stand corrected.

still, my vinyls of them sound better than your hooky mpfrees

i have mud on wax as well...

if i had te dmz with horrorshow on it i'd sell it

it is a 320 though as opposed to a FLAC...they never offered that but a clean 320 sounds pretty fucking good...certainly better than a flac rip from the wax

[esfandyar]

pfft if I had those dmzs on wax...

im jealous!

[jazzamataz]

I’m pretty sure Herbie didn’t want this digitally downloaded. I’m pretty sure. He probably didn’t even have it in mind to have it spun somewhere, DJed or pitched up and down. But the idea is when you pitch something up and down the record still remains a record. When you take it out of this form you no longer associate this imagery with that individual, these sounds. Now they become abstract concepts. “Who’s Herbie Hancock? Who gives a fuck, I got that song.” See that’s where it goes, and that’s the danger. It’s convenient, ain’t got to carry around records. Ain’t got to worry about customs. You can bring your whole collection to a party. Your whole collection? I mean, I walk into a party and I know you got access to 50.000 records. 50.000! You know what I’m going to expect out of you? I’m going to want my DNA changed! (laughter) You’re going to have to change my DNA because you got 50.000 records and an hour to play. An hour to play? How the fuck are you going to play 50.000 records and an hour to play? Alright, OK, change my life! I walk in, my life is not changed. I leave, I’m mad. I’m at the door, I’m starting with the promoter because I’m drunk, and they told me the guy had 50.000 songs to play. "I came in with expectations and I had six gin-tonics, dammit! I want my money back. You better not pay him tonight! Don’t pay that DJ nothing! Next time I come here I want to hear the guy with 20 records in his box, and blows my mind."[...]
That’s the other scary thing, it’ll take you the better part of ten years to collect, in my opinion, the amount of vinyl that’s worthy of being presented to other people. Take you, what? A couple minutes? To download somebody’s whole collection. Now the question is, is it worth the convenience? Maybe. But are you missing out on all of the knowledge that goes into looking for those specific records? Specifically, because you know ‘so-and-so’ played on this record, ‘so-and-so’ played on that record, are you going to take that time and get your knuckles dusty, and go meet another crazy obsessed individual just like yourself? You got to take that time. Oh, you can meet somebody online, their name is James and they got a big dick and big eyes. What is that shit? Motherfucker’s name is Jones, she got 36 double D’s, no! You meet somebody at the record store and they’re picking out records. See, that’s the problem with a lot of things now: the community is going from being something where you go out and have conversations with people and deal with individuals. Now everybody can hide behind these phoney masks. Do whatever they want. You never know what you’re getting.[...]
But more importantly, what I want to focus on is that you can’t replace a record collection with a file collection. There’s no way to replace it, and it’s up to every one of you if you’re interested in playing music out, to decide if you’re going to deal with both types of formats. Realise, they’re two different types of camps, you’re really cutting yourself off from individuals who respect the idea of collection. It’s a family and they will be able to tell if you don’t have those records. And they’re not going to look for you for those records. They’re not going to be interested in replacing an important piece that you might have lost or damaged. If they knew that you went the cheap way and just downloaded it anyway, that’s the other part of it.

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/vide ... _for_the_d

Hmmm...

I watched the lecture, and for the most part, I was in awe at the whole thing, hung on to his every word. BUT, I disagree, because those that REALLY want to know "who the fuck Herbie Hancock is," really will. If I want to know a song and an artist and have ample time, I will research everything I can about the artist and the record and the session and who the hell else was in there playing the horns and the string sections and what Herbie's favourite sandwhich really was on a Tuesday in 1960 when he was playing in the Chicago Symphony.

I collect vinyl, I collect Cd, and I download on MP3.
Yes, it's easier to find something, but then why should I miss out because a certain record was printed 1000 times only on a white label that no one on the planet is going to know where the hell to start looking for aside from a few select DJs and crate-diggers? Case and point is a certain remix white label that my cousin has - he is actually mad that I have a digital copy of these remixes he paid stupid money for. What he doesn't understand is, if, at the time that was the only way it was available to me, I would have paid the same stupid money for it, but, now it's not... now, just because I didn't pay through the nose for it, according to him, I have a diminished experience when playing the same song, which in actual fact, I'd say he's wrong.
My experience is still the same. I still sit in the same chair when i'm playing vinyl and mp3, I still listen with the same ears, I still encode and decode the waves with the same brain and I still have the same sonic experience...

That arguement is redundant. Personal choice dictates that I'd actually prefer the cracks and pops and the smell of vinyl and decaying cardboard, but this whole arguement is elitist in a "high fidelity," manner.

[alien pimp]

i'd be ashamed to have a thread on DSF with a title that implies fake ass analog dj's are cool

[narcissus]

to some of you is about how good the DJ is at beatmatching with vinyl, but look around... do the people on the dance floor give a damn? no, they're trying to have a good time. you should be getting into that spirit instead of flipping a bitch about what the DJ uses to make the woofers move.. cuz honestly that's just negative energy period, and that's exactly what we don't need in this world, and especially this movement we have going...

fuck that dude. i have such a better time when i hear djs creatively mixing, double dropping, rinsing tunes, and keeping the dancefloor rolling rather than an abrupt switch or a horrid trainwreck. Beatmatching is DJing 101, PERIOD. My problem is looking around on the dancefloor and being disgusted with the fact that people dont give a shit how the performer is "performing", who all paid good money to get into a club, only to hear music being played as if the guy just bought his first setup and thought he was a fucking dj! You have a point when you say people don't give a damn, no most dont, but fuck them. Does that mean that because they have low expectations and standards that every human can now go buy abelton or two tables and become a performer and run a night?

whatever, dude. you're clearly not worth arguing with because you're not willing to see my point of view.
i see what you're saying -- you like the music to flow nicely. i don't disagree...

what i do know is this....
if we went to the club and the DJ was playing good music but just pressed a button to play each track, i'd be having a great time dancing with cute chicks and getting hyped up.
you'd be getting pissed off about it and ruining your own night.

you gotta just learn to relax and enjoy man..

I do see your point, of course I do. Its kinda like my love for Lil Wayne, I don't listen to him to become enlightened or find a deeper meaning. Its just plain fun. Not everything has to be this epic revolution... but..

Ive been going to raves/parties/clubs/whatever since I was 15. Im 26 now. Im not sure how old you are, but performers had to meet a standard... and that standard seems to be deteriorating... for fucks sake.. at least beatmatching..... jesus lord.

i come from rock and pop music. got into producing recently. i know a LOT of people who say that playing two records together takes about as much talent as fiddling one's dick. a lot of people would say that because people use turntables and a crossfader instead of guitars and drums, that all music as we know it is headed down the drain... but it's not true. just a matter of perspective. nothing ever stays the same, not even for a couple years.. you have to either embrace that or get used to living in the past.