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Post by lkd » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:30 pm

Who even Cares about all this shit.
Utter waste thread full of eliteists and fanboys.

If you dont like him, why worry he'll soon fuck off once the "scene" dies down abit.

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Post by AllNightDayDream » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:40 pm

You know what I was pondering this shit a lot... I think we're just destined to the route of hip/hop rap. It's lame but hey it keeps out most the douchebags. You won't find gucci mane fans at an El-P show.

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Post by fractal » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:44 pm

i'd be the exemption to that rule... imagine gucci over an el p beat :U:
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Post by Ldizzy » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:52 pm

fractal wrote:i'd be the exemption to that rule... imagine gucci over an el p beat :U:
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Post by hasezwei » Mon Apr 11, 2011 7:57 pm

fractal wrote:i'd be the exemption to that rule... imagine gucci over an el p beat :U:
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Post by AllNightDayDream » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:13 pm

fractal wrote:i'd be the exemption to that rule... imagine gucci over an el p beat :U:
or imagine justin bieber on an el-p beat that samples the beatles...

oh wait

<iframe src="/forum/video.php?url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y85543zESO8" frameborder="0" style="overflow:hidden; height:auto; max-width:540px"></iframe>
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Post by pompende » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:39 pm

i just want to add that i really do think it is bizarre that anyone would ever say he doesn't have production chops. he's really got talent. and in a sea of tarzan-gore-derpstep he's made a sound for himself that actually stands out.

i do find it depressing, however, that his success seems to popularize this notion that dubstep is and can only be in-your-face-tear-out-drug-dance-music.

and i do find it very irksome when people tell me his 'in for the kill' remix (or any of his other electro) is the best dubstep they've ever heard.


....i did see a youtube video where he addressed his "haterz's" grievances about his looks etc in the comments section....


that is all.

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Post by dindin » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:38 pm

The way i see it is he seems a decent bloke but his music is horrendous. Its a fair point that on beatport only a couple of his tunes were put on the genre type as dubstep. But then its the fault of promoters of events that will book skrillex and then put on a flyer for genre style: dubstep. Its happening even not at bass music orientated nights though, if you've ever been to a mainstream club with chart music they'll put dubstep as one of the genres on a flyer along with chart and then play skrillex.
I dont mind some filthy stuff but there has to be a limit to it. A perfect example at the start of the year released on deep medi by tunnidge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukPOlCAsf-8

I reckon if that was played instead of some skrillex stuff you'd still get the same reaction. Hopefully skrillex will dissapear soon and the bass music genre will be a better place
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Post by vishes » Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:57 pm

dindin wrote:Hopefully skrillex will dissapear soon and the bass music genre will be a better place
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Post by mymatedave » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:08 pm

i think most skrillex haters are just haters of his music & the way in which people talk about it being dubstep, or being a good representation of dubstep.

seems like a nice guy, but its hard to feel sorry for someone that charges such a ridiculous amount to perform, especially when compared to hard working djs that have been doing this for years. But I guess thats the fault of the music agencies & you can't blame him for accepting money.

just my opinion.

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Post by ♫♪♫ » Thu Apr 14, 2011 3:17 pm

Repost from another board:
so where did i miss the reason to hate skrillex? i checked out some tracks on youtube and they're awesome. is it not cool to like melodic dance music anymore?
People just love to hate on the popular cool kids that are trending. Skrillex has huge talent. The guy successfully transitioned from being the singer of a well known hardcore band to being the darling child of dubstep almost overnight. How many people can do something like that? And he does it all using just a laptop with Ableton Live. The guy doesn't even have a proper midi controller and he's making music that rips people's heads off and tons of producers are trying to emulate. Major props to him. I don't care what anyone says.
sorry, it's kind of an argumentative cop-out to employ this observation, but the fact that you actually BOUGHT all the Skrillex BS (succesfully transitioned overnight, produces on just laptop with ableton with some shitty speakers) pretty much instantly singles you out as either young, or simple.

a) i was "there" when he was in a "hardcore" band. i was very much into post-hardcore at the time From First to Last started "trending", and that band, plus the wave of imitators that followed (Aiden, for example) was both a the first and final nail in its coffin. Atrocious music that single-handedly attracted the derogatory use of the "emo" handle. i have nothing against high-pitched vocals, but there are miles of lines in the sand between this



and this



if the second vid doesn't instantly cause you to go "gaaaaaaaayyy!!!!", then.... i dunno... i guess: enjoy your Twilight saga, tween cigarette.

i was gonna recommend some proper post-hardcore, but I'm going to wait for your feelings on FFTL, so I know if i'm wasting my time.

2. he didn't transition shit. after leaving FFTL he struggled for years producing horrid near-outsider-music-quality emotronica shite like this



this is by far the most PASSABLE output from that timeframe, sadly the HILARIOUS shit that was on his myspace isn't there anymore

3. "darling child of dubstep", "music that rips people's heads off and tons of producers are trying to emulate" :emotawesomepm9: hahahaha. what, you've been reading mau5trap promos like they were actual reviews?

he first heard "dubstep" something like... one year ago, via a second-, if not a third-hand source: Borgore. he actually admits to this in an interview. as emo kids will be, he was instantly drawn to the sound. so, first he does some awful remixes and a shitty EP of "br000tal" "electrohouse" and "dubstep" "tunes" with awful cheesy speech-synth verses and sound-design based around the philosophy of turning distortion up to 11.

then media blackout.

then, 6 months later, album chock-full of tracks with top-notch production on the drops (I'll admit to that, but honestly who GIVES A SHIT about basses made with the "modern talking" wavetable in Massive anymore?! a horse beaten well into putrefaction, that) but with the most awful fucking melodies and dismally chopped-up whiny grating vocals in between the drops. almost like... parts on the same song weren't made by the same person! gasp...

of course, you have no idea who I am, nor will I make it in any way clear who I am, and you, of course, have no reason to believe me. but, nevertheless, the story goes like this:

Spor takes some time off from working on his debut album as Feed Me (which also comes out on mau5trap a couple of months after Skrillex's, and sounds almost like a much much much much better and bereft of the revoltingly, vomit-inducing saccharine cheese of the former) and reworks some of his album out-takes into usable drops.
Excision and Datsik get a call, make some guy some drum loops and some Massive patches, get paid.
Noisia are called in for a little R&D.
Deadmau5 (who is by no means untalented) looms over the entire process.

And so we arrive at this Frankenstein's monster of aggro popular dance music that is "Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites" (good name!). I find it really funny that this is being said in a Britney thread... quite appropriate. Same degree of a "collaborative" effort, nonetheless.

anyways, the "rips people's heads off" and "producers are trying to emulate" doesn't ring so true anymore, does it? i don't see anyone struggling to emulate the whiny emo crap he does by himself on top, more like i see people trying to emulate the kind of drops they've been trying to emulate for years, ever since excision, datsik, 16bit, noisia, spor, borgore and other splendid producers with appropriate mileage hit the spotlight.

now you might be thinking... "but if he ain't doing anything himself, what would be the point of paying all these other guys to ghost produce, instead of just releasing more material by the guys themselves?"

well, very simple: excision is a guy from middle Canada with a hoodie, and kind of a hard man. noisia are three down to earth dudes from the netherlands. spor is a soft-spoken aphex fan. skrillex is a meth-head who chain smokes, tweeks out, looks like a goth Mowgli, and so on. and that will always do wonders for the angsty rebellious tween demographic. and skrillex had been on WB's roster ever since working with Ross Robinson on FFTL's Heroine. they saw an opportunity, and had the perfect poster child for it. they threw some wads of money around, did some beatport top 10 magic, and, voila, MrSparkle666 has a new favorite "dubstep" "musician" with heaps of "talent" to his name.

But, of course, you "don't care what anyone says". Fine, enjoy willful ignorance and willful bad taste.
The funniest part is, that arose from a disagreement borne from Skrillex, 'ambassador of dubstep', weighing in on on Britney Spears' new single.

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Post by dj $hy » Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:02 pm

^^Where was that posted bro, what forum?
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Post by fractal » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:55 pm

pretty insightful post tbh
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Post by -[2]DAY_- » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:19 pm

epic skrillex post.

my least favorite part about the artist is the alias. utter cheez
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Post by AllNightDayDream » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:34 pm

fractal wrote:pretty stupid tbh
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Post by pompende » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:40 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote:
fractal wrote:pretty stupid tbh
fixed
epic troll post. employs a fictitious quote to reference itself. almost like a painting of a painting.

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Post by AllNightDayDream » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:10 pm

pompende wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote:
fractal wrote:pretty stupid tbh
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epic troll post. employs a fictitious quote to reference itself. almost like a painting of a painting.
Or a dream... Within a dream :o

But really it was pretty dumb. He just says his music is shit, and that because he looks emo and chain smokes it means he's a douchebag. Honestly fuck that guy, fuck that whole sentiment. I take dear offense to it. Seriously, what are you, 15? you're gonna judge someone based on the clothes they wear? And yeah he likes to dance at his shows... wtf? And I love how he mentions "beatport magic" like that actually means anything. The dude put his tunes up, and people dig them. That's how this shit works. So deadmau5 liked him. Does that somehow change his music? Since when it is wrong to plug an artist that you like?

If you pay attention, he has an integrity in terms of his vocal and melodic style. His new stuff is just a much darker version of his old stuff under Sonny Moore. He still sings the same way, and he still puts "cheesy" melodic lines in his tracks. People are trying to make it out like he completely changed his music and his image to fit a trend, when he clearly had an artistic identity before he even heard about dubstep, and the similarities are easy to hear.

Not to mention as an artist, he is at the point so many artists would love to be at. If you hear a skrillex track, you know it's skrillex. People can try and emulate, and recently some kids have gotten pretty close, but regardless skrillex has set himself apart as a tearout producer and he's enjoying his deserved attention.

Sites like these always need some new trendy thing to hate on. It was so easy for everybody around here to bash on Excision & Datsik until they actually showed up and turned out to be great guys and even helped out the local producers with their technical magic (which they are pioneers in). I find it both pathetic and hilarious people haven't learned by now how idiotic they sound when they bash on popular artists simply because they are popular, except they use childish arguments that are honestly laughable. "looks like mowgli" gave me a right chuckle. This dude can dress himself up like everything you guys hate but he's still able to make unique dance music and make a real impact with it, which is leagues more than any of you ripping on him like little girls in a sewing circle can say.

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Post by cpt.pollution » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:21 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote: Sites like these always need some new trendy thing to hate on. It was so easy for everybody around here to bash on Excision & Datsik until they actually showed up and turned out to be great guys and even helped out the local producers with their technical magic (which they are pioneers in). I find it both pathetic and hilarious people haven't learned by now how idiotic they sound when they bash on popular artists simply because they are popular, except they use childish arguments that are honestly laughable. "looks like mowgli" gave me a right chuckle. This dude can dress himself up like everything you guys hate but he's still able to make unique dance music and make a real impact with it, which is leagues more than any of you ripping on him like little girls in a sewing circle can say.
Except, no one actually bashed on Excision because hes an amazing producer.. Everyone bashed on Datsik
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Post by AllNightDayDream » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:25 pm

cpt.pollution wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote: Sites like these always need some new trendy thing to hate on. It was so easy for everybody around here to bash on Excision & Datsik until they actually showed up and turned out to be great guys and even helped out the local producers with their technical magic (which they are pioneers in). I find it both pathetic and hilarious people haven't learned by now how idiotic they sound when they bash on popular artists simply because they are popular, except they use childish arguments that are honestly laughable. "looks like mowgli" gave me a right chuckle. This dude can dress himself up like everything you guys hate but he's still able to make unique dance music and make a real impact with it, which is leagues more than any of you ripping on him like little girls in a sewing circle can say.
Except, no one actually bashed on Excision because hes an amazing producer.. Everyone bashed on Datsik
And i'm sure it purely had to with his obviously mediocre production skill. Even if that was the case it would still be a dumb reason.

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Post by cpt.pollution » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:27 pm

AllNightDayDream wrote:
cpt.pollution wrote:
AllNightDayDream wrote: Sites like these always need some new trendy thing to hate on. It was so easy for everybody around here to bash on Excision & Datsik until they actually showed up and turned out to be great guys and even helped out the local producers with their technical magic (which they are pioneers in). I find it both pathetic and hilarious people haven't learned by now how idiotic they sound when they bash on popular artists simply because they are popular, except they use childish arguments that are honestly laughable. "looks like mowgli" gave me a right chuckle. This dude can dress himself up like everything you guys hate but he's still able to make unique dance music and make a real impact with it, which is leagues more than any of you ripping on him like little girls in a sewing circle can say.
Except, no one actually bashed on Excision because hes an amazing producer.. Everyone bashed on Datsik
And i'm sure it purely had to with his obviously mediocre production skill. Even if that was the case it would still be a dumb reason.
Go digging in some older threads then and look for yourself instead of making assumptions..
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