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Re: Working Out....

Post by dubloke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:35 am

Whats wrong with eggs :( I have 4 a day probably? I know the yolk is bad but someone told me its natural cholesterol so not that bad. I think my gym even sent an email roud saying you can eat as many eggs as you want?

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Dear Sean,
We hope this weeks fit tip will help assist you in achieving your health and fitness goal at The Gym - Brighton.

Begin your week with little Lifestyle Steps to change your life:

You can’t beat an egg!

HEALTH

No need to shell out:

You don’t need to buy expensive foods to consume a nutritious diet. Apart from being inexpensive, eggs are a great source of concentrated nutrition including fat-soluble vitamins D, A, E and K, all the B vitamins and minerals such as phosphorous, calcium, zinc and iron.

Worried about the effect too many eggs will have on your cholesterol? Don’t be. Contrary to popular belief, it is saturated fat rather than cholesterol found in foods, that contributes to high cholesterol levels. As a result, the Food Standards Agency places no limit on the number of eggs you can eat in a week as part of a balanced diet. So crack on and enjoy them!



EXERCISE

Egg yourself on:

The structure of the human body is built on protein. Exercise depletes critical amino acids so we rely on the protein in our food (from both animal and vegetable sources) to replenish them.

Eggs contain all the essential amino acids our bodies need in the exact proportions required for optimum growth and maintenance of lean, metabolically active tissue. Don't just rely on protein shakes; eggs give you access to one of nature’s best post-workout protein sources.

NUTRITION

Some cracking breakfast ideas:

Eggs may just be the perfect diet food since they contain 6 grams of protein per egg (helping to promote a feeling of fullness) with only 68 calories. Research has shown that people who regularly ate 2 eggs as part of their breakfast ate around 264 fewer daily calories than those who consumed bagels instead, even though both breakfasts contain the same number of calories.

So, if you’re looking to trim down, why not try these quick and easy egg-based breakfast or snack ideas:

Omelettes are tasty and super-quick to put together. Try with mushrooms, peppers, smoked salmon, a handful of grated cheese or simply with fresh herbs.
Scrambled eggs are delicious made with a little milk, plenty of black pepper and served with wholemeal toast and grilled tomatoes.
For a weekend treat try mushrooms and spinach sautéed with a little butter and garlic with a fried egg on top.
A filling breakfast classic is a soft boiled egg and soldiers. Try mixing it up by dunking asparagus spears instead of bread!
Place a poached egg on top of a wholegrain muffin or pitta bread and top with steamed spinach. Season and enjoy.
Not at home for breakfast? Hard-boiled eggs can be cooked in advance and are easy to take with you.

Enjoy!
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Re: Working Out....

Post by noam » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:37 am

Electric_Head wrote:
noam wrote:wub's routine is pretty spot on tbh i think

hardly any bad fats or anything, loads of fresh and whole food

good man!

and at Electric: no, thats not the thing, new studies been released proving that for a 1/5th of the population (at least of wherever the study was mapping) that their bodies simply do not respond to exercise, that is REGULAR exercise, the studies obviously had to maintain a degree of consistency for them to even get to peer review status

it makes perfect sense too, if you have people who are simply natural born athletes it follows that there are people born without the prerequisite physiological disposition to exercise

it doesn't mean they have to be overweight and unhealthy btw, it just means EXERCISE doesn't do anything for them
interesting
So what do folks that see no value in exercise do??
Do they just resign themselves to being overweight?
I`ve always exercised and been happy doing it if not for weight loss but at least for general well-being.
Are you telling me it`s only based around exercise and losing weight? or does exercising not even help them achieve a happy state of being?
they see no physiological benefits from it i.e. doesn't really make them lose weight, doesn't make them healthier, doesn't make them stronger etc.

they might benefit mentally, peace of mind, more positive etc. they might really enjoy going to the gym, routine/placebo/just enjoy sport/exercise in general, but they just dont see the benefits of it

and like i said it doesn't mean they have to be overweight or unhealthy, you can still live healthy even if exercise doesn't do anything for you, i'll look for the link to the documentary its very very good

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Re: Working Out....

Post by wub » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:40 am

dubloke wrote:Whats wrong with eggs :( I have 4 a day probably? I know the yolk is bad but someone told me its natural cholesterol so not that bad. I think my gym even sent an email roud saying you can eat as many eggs as you want?
I go by this;
Are eggs keeping you in cracking shape or scrambling your health?

Not enough - Less than three a week

Lay-off the scramblers and your nerves could be fried. One humble egg supplies more than your recommended daily requirement of vitamin B12. "And B12 is essential for forming the protective coating around the nerves," says Amanda Ursell, nutritionist and author of The Complete Guide To Healing Foods (Dorling Kindersly). "A deficiency can lead to irreversible nerve damage." More of an eye-opener: Two recent US studies in the Journal of Nutrition found eating at least three eggs a week combats blindness in later life. It's all thanks to lutein and zeaxanthin. Not Dr Who baddies, apparently, but carotenoids found in egg yolk that strengthen your retinas.

Enough - 6 a week

Omelette should be available on prescription: By helping your body absorb calcium, eggs cut your risk of osteoporosis, plus they can prevent heart disease thanks to their selenium and vitamin E content. And eggs can even stop you becoming egg-shaped. Recent Louisiana State University research found regular egg-breakfast eaters lost 65% more weight than those who consumed egg-less breakfasts equal in calories. "The protein from an egg breakfast can increase your feelings of fullness by up to 50%, and subsequently lighten lunch intake by an average 164 calories," says study author Nikhil Dhurandhar. You may pile on a pound or two in the right places though. Research from Texas A&M University found eating three eggs a day at least twice a week doubled lean muscle growth in strength trainers over 12-weeks. And the cholesterol question? "Eggs do contain dietary cholesterol," explains British Dietetic Association dietician Pamela Dyson, "but that cholesterol has much less effect on cholesterol levels in your blood than the amount of saturated fat you eat." In fact, a three-egg omelette twice a week could actually cut your risk of diabetes and blood pressure problems according to University of Connecticut studies.

Too much - More than 6 a week

Good eggs go bad – according to a US physicians health study reported in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition – when you exceed one a day, everyday. "Whereas consumption of up to six eggs a week was not associated with the risk of all-cause mortality, consumption of seven or more eggs a week was associated with a 23% greater risk of death," says Dr Michael Gaziano of Harvard Medical School who authored the report. And among men with diabetes, any egg consumption was associated with a higher risk of death. So an egg a day could keep the doctor away – unless you're already a regular on his list of house calls.

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Re: Working Out....

Post by Electric_Head » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:41 am

I`ll check it when I`m home later.
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Re: Working Out....

Post by cityzen » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:45 am

There was a programme on the BBC about a month ago that said the whole too many eggs is bad for you thing is not true. The presenter ate something silly like 7 per day for a couple of weeks and at the end her bad cholesterol had only risen a small amount but was still within 'healthy' limits.

It also said that milk is a much better post-workout drink than those poweraid/lucozade drinks.

I'll see if it's up anywhere.

Oh, and Wub, what sort of protein do you use for your shakes?
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Re: Working Out....

Post by wub » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:46 am

cityzen wrote:Oh, and Wub, what sort of protein do you use for your shakes?

The morning and post workout ones are all in one pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/hurricane_xs

The pre-workout one is a different type of pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/pulse

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Re: Working Out....

Post by noam » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:47 am

cityzen wrote:
Oh, and Wub, what sort of protein do you use for your shakes?
Semenimium??

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Re: Working Out....

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:52 am

Mate of mine is on maxi-muscle progain, he's bulking up to compensate for the fact he is ugly and can't get sex...results?...He is still ugly, still not getting any, only now he has love handles because he can't put enough hours in at a gym, his breath stinks constantly and he's £30 a month out of pocket. :lol:
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Re: Working Out....

Post by cityzen » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:53 am

wub wrote:
cityzen wrote:Oh, and Wub, what sort of protein do you use for your shakes?

The morning and post workout ones are all in one pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/hurricane_xs

The pre-workout one is a different type of pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/pulse
Ah, so you're on the creatine as well.... those mixes look pricey!
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Re: Working Out....

Post by jameshk » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:57 am

I worked out a couple of times... didn't end well
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Re: Working Out....

Post by Genevieve » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:01 pm

Genevieve wrote:I've started do this again a month ago. It's great.
My body's gotten GORGEOUS since then. WOW.
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Re: Working Out....

Post by magma » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:02 pm

I've had a lazy year, tbh... struggling to get to the gym once a week at the moment, though I'm running in the park at the weekends so that at least makes me feel a little bit better.

After spending 2010/2011 trying to put on [good] weight, my body seemed to only partially get the message around Christmas and gave me a little bit of belly fat... THIS WILL NOT DO.
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Re: Working Out....

Post by wub » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:05 pm

cityzen wrote:
wub wrote:
cityzen wrote:Oh, and Wub, what sort of protein do you use for your shakes?

The morning and post workout ones are all in one pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/hurricane_xs

The pre-workout one is a different type of pre-mix = http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/pulse
Ah, so you're on the creatine as well.... those mixes look pricey!

They're cheaper than the Maximuscle equivalents. The all in one, for example;

Maximuscle Cyclone = 1.2kg for £43.99
MyProtein Hurricane (see what they've done with the name there, clever!) = 2.5kg for £31.49

No fucking brainer.

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Re: Working Out....

Post by cityzen » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:10 pm

dubloke wrote:
No need to shell out:

Egg yourself on:

Some cracking breakfast ideas:
I'd quit that gym just for that.

After what seemed to be endless BBC recipes for eggs and milk i've found the programme I was talking about. At the moment I can only find the tea, and milk clips.

Anyway, it was called Britain's Favourite Supermarket Foods
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Re: Working Out....

Post by Genevieve » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:10 pm

noam wrote:they see no physiological benefits from it i.e. doesn't really make them lose weight, doesn't make them healthier, doesn't make them stronger etc.

they might benefit mentally, peace of mind, more positive etc. they might really enjoy going to the gym, routine/placebo/just enjoy sport/exercise in general, but they just dont see the benefits of it

and like i said it doesn't mean they have to be overweight or unhealthy, you can still live healthy even if exercise doesn't do anything for you, i'll look for the link to the documentary its very very good
I have zero attention span atm. But by no health benefits do you mean that... even if you exercise and do get stronger, bigger muscles, etc.. it doesn't make you necessarily healthier just stronger or more endurant and it doesn't help you combat any diseases or help you lose fat or stay in shape and so on?

If so, that's totally true. A stronger, bigger or merely exercised muscle isn't exactly a better muscle and really, exercise is the least important bit of actually sculpting your body. Some of the changes may be practical or aesthetically pleasing, but not necessarily healthier. But they're solely focusing on the workout and not on the diet right? Because a healthy diet with a good ratio of macronutrient intake fitting to your body and lifestyle WILL make you healthier and a workout can supplement that (i.e, proper endurance training helps you maintain muscle to help you lose weight).

If anyone's planning to workout, they should really ease into that and before they start exercising their muscles, they should have their diet and daily rhythm in order. Diet is 80% of gym work, 15% is resting and 5% is exercise.
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Re: Working Out....

Post by noam » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:13 pm

no i mean they just dont respond to it

watch the video i posted up

if you fall in that bottom 20% it appears at the moment you are destined to just be pretty rubbish at sports/exercise etc.

no. physiological. benefit. that covers everything right? said this like 4 times now lol

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Post by dubloke » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:20 pm

cityzen wrote:
dubloke wrote:
No need to shell out:

Egg yourself on:

Some cracking breakfast ideas:
I'd quit that gym just for that.
yeah they're pretty cheesey but its 16.99 a month, no contract, pay an extra pound a month and you can use any of their gyms in the country, 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week, and if you want to freeze your account you can pay a fiver a month instead of £15.99. I love my gym :h:
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Post by wub » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:22 pm

I pay £6 a month due to a combination of an accounting irregularity on the part of my company I have yet to correct, and flirting with the gay guy who renewed my membership last time so he put me on the corporate rate that I didn't actually qualify for.

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Post by noam » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:26 pm

i take it you then horrifically beat him in an alleyway after leading him on??

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Re: Working Out....

Post by Genevieve » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:30 pm

noam wrote:no i mean they just dont respond to it

watch the video i posted up

if you fall in that bottom 20% it appears at the moment you are destined to just be pretty rubbish at sports/exercise etc.

no. physiological. benefit. that covers everything right? said this like 4 times now lol
Thing is, it doesn't make sense. It's like saying that 20% of the population won't improve at all at playing piano after they do it every day for a month or that not everyone's fingers build up callous when they use their hands a lot. Building muscle is your body responding to the damage done to them and improving them to cope with that damage in the future. It's a very basic property of your body. Like building up tolerance to stimulants after prolonged use. Some people may be more apt genetically at building muscle than others, but giving no response at all is highly unlikely.

I'll watch it later, but from reading about this on a number of fitness forums, this only covers aerobic exercise which is general cardiovasciular exercise like, FOR EXAMPLE, long distancer running as opposed to short distance sprinting which is anaerobic. And it's said to present the facts in a rather simplified and misleading manner. As I said, though. I'm going by what other people say, but it simply does not make any physical sense either. But thanks for the link.

Edit: What I'm saying is. What you would be arguing is that if someone were to be paralyzed from the waist down for 5 years and lost the necessary strength to walk and if they were suddenly cured, it would be impossible for them regain the capabiliy to ever walk again if they fall in that '20%'. And that's simply put absolute bullcrap.
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