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Terpit wrote:

gαммα wrote:not usually one for conspiracy theories but why does he not have blood on his hands in this vid

I Can't Take That Video Seriously.

But really, all the other videos show him with bloody hands, it looks like someone has edited his hands to look orange there (but they still look bloody imo)

yeah i watched it a couple times and its been colour corrected, still doesn't explain how this video has a much better source quality than the one that aired on live tv, and why there is no blood on his clothes or on the street. he fucking decapitated him, there would be massive arterial spray and a blood pool at the very least. all seems very weird imo.

Does anyone know why it keeps being referred to as a terrorist attack, or why there was a COBRA meeting? Is it just because they were Muslims, therefore they were terrorists?

Whole thing is just too f'ckin sad

From the aerial shot, it looks like they tried to cut his head off by the crashed car then dragged him to the middle of the road. I personally don't think there is anything fishy about anything at all, just 2 lunatics/religious nuts killed someone

Kochari wrote:Does anyone know why it keeps being referred to as a terrorist attack, or why there was a COBRA meeting? Is it just because they were Muslims, therefore they were terrorists?

Whole thing is just too f'ckin sad

terrorist attack
Web definitions
a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims.

My facebook feed has been pretty good about this so far, I must've done a good job in deleting/blocking appropriate people in the past

hugh wrote:My facebook feed has been pretty good about this so far, I must've done a good job in deleting/blocking appropriate people in the past

I was thinking the same thing, quite proud of myself

so the question we should be asking,

How do we move beyond the conflict that oppositional Ideologies continually breed through endless provocation and retaliation?

A provokes B.
B retaliates to A because of provocation.
A retaliates to b because of retaliation etc

some backwards metaphysical time loop we need to use our heads (tru) to move beyond instead of just getting swept along by the localized symptoms of a greater global disharmony and unrest.

this totally fits the bill as a "terrorist attack"

does not matter that theyre muslim

the anti muslim shit is just people being stupid but dont try to justify not calling it a terrorist attack when they were obviously just trying to get a rise out of all the people on the street right after they didi it

If you don't think this is a terrorist attack, you are suffering from white guilt imo

They made political statements on camera as part of the attack == terrorist.

They killed one, seemingly fairly well targeted person and were shot and arrested by police before getting away =/ cause for panic.

magma wrote:They made political statements on camera as part of the attack == terrorist.

They killed one, seemingly fairly well targeted person and were shot and arrested by police before getting away =/ cause for panic.

Terpit wrote:

terrorist attack
Web definitions
a surprise attack involving the deliberate use of violence against civilians in the hope of attaining political or religious aims.

magma wrote:They made political statements on camera as part of the attack == terrorist

political statements on camera and attack ==....Sounds like that could be applied to larger closer to home groups/state too.

People seem to be getting very caught up in the semantics of it but i guess that's understandable. Violence of any kind should not be tolerated.

Jiddu once again;

"We are each one of us responsible for every war because of the aggressiveness of our own lives, because of our nationalism, our selfishness, our gods, our prejudices, our ideals, all of which divide us.

When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

if you define it like that there's a lot of terrorism going about

mIrReN wrote:if you define it like that there's a lot of terrorism going about

Better change the definition so there's not much terrorism then!!
We'll all be safe

yup that's what I'm saying

d-t-r wrote:political statements on camera and attack ==....Sounds like that could be applied to larger closer to home groups/state too.

Terrorists come in all shapes, sizes and beliefs, but the definition has been the same for my whole life. No difference between this and IRA members killing military policemen in Ulster.

States generally commit acts of war, not terrorism. They can sponsor or endorse terrorism, sure.

Terpit wrote:

mIrReN wrote:if you define it like that there's a lot of terrorism going about

Better change the definition to there's not much terrorism then!!
We'll all be safe

Well quite.

magma wrote:

d-t-r wrote:political statements on camera and attack ==....Sounds like that could be applied to larger closer to home groups/state too.

Terrorists come in all shapes, sizes and beliefs, but the definition has been the same for my whole life. No difference between this and IRA members killing military policemen in Ulster.

States generally commit acts of war, not terrorism. They can sponsor or endorse terrorism, sure.

Yup. No difference between this and a lot of what happens out there i agree. Perspective is what should be encouraged. Beyond nations.

War and terror for most on the receiving end are one and the same, or at least 2 sides of the same coin. Rarely see one without the other. A state declaring war is just as terror-fying.

semantics loop again anyway.

Let's hope we can all band together and get our thoughts coherent enough to contribute productive change and expand our individual and shared education on these subjects. Might be wishful thinking or too optimistic but it's all we can aspire for.

"Optimism is a strategy for making a better future. Because unless you believe that the future can be better, you are unlikely to step up and take responsibility for making it so.” - Chomsky

We have a quotes thread you know mate.

Lee Cunningham has some wise words to share on this story though

next time I witness a brutal murder
I'm going to interview the murderer/s
and pop the vid on the net
because now I know it helps us all so much

can't somebody show a little restraint,
maybe some commonsense...?