Shut the hell UP!!!

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:45 pm

*Grand* wrote:if you need to take a substance to enable you to enjoy something then you shouldn't be there, it really isn't for you. your minds not with it, so taking a substance to alter your bodies chemistry to force to get into it.. well... enough said...

there is a massive difference between using drugs to make you enjoy something and using drugs to complement something you are already enjoying, its plain to see that all of us enjoy dubstep, and go to nights and get fucked or stay completely sober respectively depending on how we feel, but i would say people on here only take drugs to complement the experience rather than force it[/b]

dubluke · Post by **dubluke** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:01 pm

*Grand* wrote:it's not people.. it's the government and big businesses, forget about people like you and me.

one of their main blunders i think is that they spend thousands of pounds and months of time constructing reports about climate change etc. that essentially tell us things we already knew about it, all the while using them to stall actually taking any action

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:15 pm

the problem with most western governments' approaches to climate change is that they've seen it as an excuse to make shitloads of money off people in the name of environmentalism. rather than raising taxes on air travel or charging people who drive cars in london, money should be spent on research into renewable energy.

stuff like this is what we should be doing

maori-nick · Post by **maori-nick** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:19 pm

ive learnt more in this past 20 minutes of reading this thread about the planet then i did throughout school.
brainy people on here.

d-T-r · Post by **d-T-r** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:21 pm

this is only one of our many problems. the amount of time 'we have left' before it tips over is never gonna be accurate. how ever long they say we have,we have alot less. wouldnt wanna create mass hysteria too soon. singling out individual problems is what distracts people.

on another note, our whole existence is illogical and irrational...

2012.

amykamala · Post by **amykamala** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:27 pm

out of many many thoughts on this discussion , i have selected 3 things to say :

1) ocean energy

2)solar energy

and

3)wind energy.

http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/story/

check chapter 14-20

kozee · Post by **kozee** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:57 pm

amykamala wrote:

out of many many thoughts on this discussion , i have selected 3 things to say :

1) ocean energy

2)solar energy

and

3)wind energy.

http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/story/

check chapter 14-20

can I add one?

4) Punnie Power! UGH!

amykamala · Post by **amykamala** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:03 pm

kozee wrote:
amykamala wrote:

out of many many thoughts on this discussion , i have selected 3 things to say :

1) ocean energy

2)solar energy

and

3)wind energy.

http://www.energyquest.ca.gov/story/

check chapter 14-20
can I add one?

4) Punnie Power! UGH!

oh but of course! how could i have omitted that !!!

kozee · Post by **kozee** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 9:09 pm

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 11:38 pm

pk- wrote:
Thus capitalism being the most useless possible system to actually face the environmental hazards ahead.
Irresponsible capitalism, certainly. But capitalism could be sustainable if it's tempered by common sense and responsibility.

When has capitalism ever been responsible?

amykamala · Post by **amykamala** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:06 am

seckle wrote:
pk- wrote:
Thus capitalism being the most useless possible system to actually face the environmental hazards ahead.
Irresponsible capitalism, certainly. But capitalism could be sustainable if it's tempered by common sense and responsibility.
When has capitalism ever been responsible?

not sure if youre being sarcastic or not.

but it is the current capitalist structure that has enabled us to mass consume way beyond our fair share of the planets resources. americans alone consume 1/3rd of the earths resources !!!! sure the brits arnt all that much better, either :p

we are rightfully raping the planet, and enjoying every minute of it. haha

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:09 am

no, i wasn't trying to be a smartass at all. pk's comment just made me think about it for a minute. i guess it's one of those unanswerable ones. shout out to badman pk.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:11 am

i can talk for hours about how capitalism tempered with by common sense and responsibility is an impossible ideal.

like throwing a pebble to the moon impossible.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:13 am

like water making its way to the bottom of a waterfall, evil and corruption will find its way to the top of any capitalist system

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:18 am

i can talk for hours about how capitalism tempered with by common sense and responsibility is an impossible ideal.

it's never been practiced before, granted, by why's it necessarily impossible?

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:18 am

because you can't keep corruption out.

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:19 am

them evil forces are tenacious buggers

pk- · Post by **pk-** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:21 am

is that not a failure on the part of capitalists rather than a flaw with the capitalist model though

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:22 am

not to mention that the very nature of capitalism fundamentally corrupts all who participate. and if you choose not to participate you're considered a piece of shit.

people who don't want jobs or riches are somehow less valuable humans than those who strive to overconsume and destroy

parson · Post by **parson** » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:22 am

pk- wrote:is that not a failure on the part of capitalists rather than a flaw with the capitalist model though

its not anybody's failure. its the nature of humanity.

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