So who actually cuts dubplates?

Harosh · Post by **Harosh** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:03 am

What did you order from both? I know eds vinyl don't do acetate but I'm wondering whether a 10 inch acetate from dub studio will be better than a dubplate from eds vinyl?

Don't know which one to choose at all. I know dub studio will sound better but I'm not too keen on acetate in truth, and I don't wanna spend £50-60 on a dub from dub studio.

charliefoy · Post by **charliefoy** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:31 am

Harosh wrote:What did you order from both? I know eds vinyl don't do acetate but I'm wondering whether a 10 inch acetate from dub studio will be better than a dubplate from eds vinyl?

Don't know which one to choose at all. I know dub studio will sound better but I'm not too keen on acetate in truth, and I don't wanna spend £50-60 on a dub from dub studio.

I think the maximum you can pay for a 12" acetate at dub studio is £40

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:43 am

Harosh wrote:What did you order from both? I know eds vinyl don't do acetate but I'm wondering whether a 10 inch acetate from dub studio will be better than a dubplate from eds vinyl?

Don't know which one to choose at all. I know dub studio will sound better but I'm not too keen on acetate in truth, and I don't wanna spend £50-60 on a dub from dub studio.

Dub Studio also do vinyl dubs, 10" for £29 & £39 for 12".

Harosh · Post by **Harosh** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:09 pm

That's not too bad to be fair. What I don't see is why there's such a big difference in price if you want the mastered WAV as well? Is there more time and effort put into mastering it or something?

It's a shame I live in the arse end of nowhere because I think you'd learn a lot by being there when it's getting mastered/cut. It's something I definitely want to do the next time I head down to London.

chekov · Post by **chekov** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:11 pm

i think mastering for digital and acetate/vinyl is a different process and uses different techniques so that might be why it costs extra for WAVs

Harosh · Post by **Harosh** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:48 pm

That's fair enough then. I think I'll order a couple from both eds vinyl and dub studio to see if there's that much of a difference and then just carry on with whichever I prefer.

Also I'm interested in the stem mastering thing, is that just more of a professional master rather than what you'd get if you just ordered the dub?

Muncey · Post by **Muncey** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:54 pm

Whats the main advantage for getting a 12" over a 10" apart from more track time? I assume they don't deteriorate as quickly and hold the quality for longer?

Curious because aren't 10s the most popular?

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:16 pm

Muncey wrote:Whats the main advantage for getting a 12" over a 10" apart from more track time? I assume they don't deteriorate as quickly and hold the quality for longer?

Curious because aren't 10s the most popular?

Right at the start of this thread people are talknig about 12" vs 10" dubs. http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=227443

I would assume they deteriorate at the same rate.

Muncey · Post by **Muncey** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:16 pm

Cheers, basically for longer songs. I never knew about the high freqs range decreases as it gets closer to the centre.. always wondered why some tunes on 12" finish with so much spare.. I'm sure Medi do this a lot.

charliefoy · Post by **charliefoy** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:21 am

I've only had 10's cut and they sound great, and loud enough, although i have some standard releases (black box ect) on 10 inch that don't sound as good as 12's. That might be down to the actual song. Mastering for dubplate i believe isn't as in depth as a full master (hence the price increase when you want a full wav master)

lylo · Post by **lylo** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:54 pm

charliefoy wrote:I've only had 10's cut and they sound great, and loud enough, although i have some standard releases (black box ect) on 10 inch that don't sound as good as 12's. That might be down to the actual song. Mastering for dubplate i believe isn't as in depth as a full master (hence the price increase when you want a full wav master)

yeah i recently got a 10'' acetate from dub studio which is louder than certain 12''s i got in my collection.. must be down to actual track or mastering before.. dunno

not sure if i mentioned it before but dub studio offer an amazing service too!

charliefoy · Post by **charliefoy** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:57 pm

lylo wrote:
charliefoy wrote:I've only had 10's cut and they sound great, and loud enough, although i have some standard releases (black box ect) on 10 inch that don't sound as good as 12's. That might be down to the actual song. Mastering for dubplate i believe isn't as in depth as a full master (hence the price increase when you want a full wav master)

yeah i recently got a 10'' acetate from dub studio which is louder than certain 12''s i got in my collection.. must be down to actual track or mastering before.. dunno

not sure if i mentioned it before but dub studio offer an amazing service too!

i really need to try them, i've just had good experiences with transition so i'm reluctant haha

Lurka · Post by **Lurka** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:45 pm

chekov wrote:
wfg1 wrote:can someone explain the appeal of acetates [over vinyl dubs]?
i haven't got around to cutting any of either so i'm no expert but i think acetates are meant to sound a bit better than vinyls, especially on a system. they're a lot more fragile than vinyl dubs though and can wear out after so many plays (though i've heard this is exaggerated?)

Acetate is softer than the vinyl they use so you are able to cut more information into it, hence a "better" or more realised sound than cutting with vinyl. But this softness is to its detriment, as it will eventually show signs of wear much quicker than vinyl. Don't let that put you off cutting acetate dubplates though, with proper care (correct needle set up, putting them in their sleeves and keeping your greasy chicken fingers off them) they can be playable for a fair old while, I still have acetates from a few years ago that have maintained their playability!

Acetate FTW

chekov · Post by **chekov** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:51 pm

i would cut acetate but it doesn't really seem worth it when i'd probably wear them out mixing in my room before even playing out

charliefoy · Post by **charliefoy** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:29 am

bümp
trying precise this week

iirrriiieee · Post by **iirrriiieee** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:25 am

Got a dub cut with transition last week sounds great, easy to cue etc. Have had dubs cut with dubstudio in the past they sound great, but some are fuckin tricky to cue. Does anyone know if there is any way to solve this/make em slightly easier to cue?

Gewze · Post by **Gewze** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:24 am

iirrriiieee wrote:Got a dub cut with transition last week sounds great, easy to cue etc. Have had dubs cut with dubstudio in the past they sound great, but some are fuckin tricky to cue. Does anyone know if there is any way to solve this/make em slightly easier to cue?

Fucking hate that

J_L_N · Post by **J_L_N** » Tue May 07, 2013 10:59 am

iirrriiieee wrote:Have had dubs cut with dubstudio in the past they sound great, but some are fuckin tricky to cue. Does anyone know if there is any way to solve this/make em slightly easier to cue?

maybe a dumb question, but why are they hard to cue? im planning to get a couple of dubs cut in the next weeks, they will be my first, so i have no experience with them.

charliefoy · Post by **charliefoy** » Tue May 07, 2013 12:20 pm

trianglism wrote:
iirrriiieee wrote:Have had dubs cut with dubstudio in the past they sound great, but some are fuckin tricky to cue. Does anyone know if there is any way to solve this/make em slightly easier to cue?
maybe a dumb question, but why are they hard to cue? im planning to get a couple of dubs cut in the next weeks, they will be my first, so i have no experience with them.

they get crackly very quickly at the start because of cueing, can also be prone to jumping here as the record wears out more

J_L_N · Post by **J_L_N** » Tue May 07, 2013 12:38 pm

charliefoy wrote:
trianglism wrote:
iirrriiieee wrote:Have had dubs cut with dubstudio in the past they sound great, but some are fuckin tricky to cue. Does anyone know if there is any way to solve this/make em slightly easier to cue?
maybe a dumb question, but why are they hard to cue? im planning to get a couple of dubs cut in the next weeks, they will be my first, so i have no experience with them.
they get crackly very quickly at the start because of cueing, can also be prone to jumping here as the record wears out more

ah alright, thanks

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