Gun attack on French magazine Charlie Hebdo kills 11

[wobbles]

then dont say that shit u terrorist sympathizer

[DJoe]

lol wut

[nowaysj]

they had become a bit islamophobic over the last years...

Maybe after their offices had been firebombed by adherents of islam.

[AxeD]

and we traverse the stages of grief together...

[nowaysj]

Lol, go hard:

The dope-smoking, rapping, 'loser' brothers turned mass killing commandos

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3OEgEpSLd

[mason666]

false flag for ched evans imo

[wolf89]

Well, regardless of whether they could be called islamophobic or equally against everyone with their satire from what I've seen their idea of biting satire is just to set out to offend people. Seems kinda shit. Not to detract from how awful this is but I dunno.

[mIrReN]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europ ... ’s-problem
interesting read

[ultraspatial]

how dare these muslims not share the same opinions as us europeans

[garethom]

Re: all the talk of Charlie Hebdo being hateful or whatever. Isn't the whole point of satire to ridicule power and those in control, whether that be government, financial, religious or whatever. While it might seem hateful, that's part of the point, isn't it? Hate for a lot of aspects of those in control, and the desire to challenge them?

Like, be offended, it might make you think?

Dunno.

[mIrReN]

how dare these muslims not share the same opinions as us europeans

?

and why the fuck doesn't my link work
add; can-europe-make-it/cas-mudde/no-we-are-not-all-charlie-and-that’s-problem after .net/ if you want to read it

[ultraspatial]

that's what i took away from that article

[mIrReN]

guess I misread most of the article :/
edit; can you quote pieces that makes you think that way?

[ultraspatial]

cba to go throught it again but it was basically all "us europeans vs them" "they don't respect our values", subtle hints of islamophobia while criticising islamophobia and it just had that air of "unity in diversity" eu fairytales

[jrkhnds]

tbh whoever thinks Charlie Hebdo was islamophobic needs to do some reading. it was a satirical zine, similar to the german TITANIC and numerous other outlets. if you get offended by that shit, please take a long hard look at yourself. all Charlie Hebdo did was draw people's irrational fears and expectations, putting them into perspective. and of course a satirical magazine would focus more on islamism nowadays; it's what people fear, it's what people hate, it's what people can't understand or relate to.

[ultraspatial]

i was saying the article mirren linked is subtly islamophobic not charlie hobo

[jrkhnds]

I know, that's why I wasn't talking to you.

[ultraspatial]

that seemed really mean lol

[jrkhnds]

sorry, didn't want to be mean to you.

[faultier]

and of course a satirical magazine would focus more on islamism nowadays; it's what people fear, it's what people hate, it's what people can't understand or relate to.

case in point, not saying they were a racist magazine per se (tho clearly the tone changed since Philippe Val became editor in chief), but pandering to people's natural inclination to xenophobia, even through humour (though imo even that is debatable, as wolf89 pointed, their cartoons weren't that funny and more taking cheap shots for the sake of it, imho bbq) aint exactly a rosa parks bravery move...