Is ableton any good for producing dubstep?

[nastynasty]

FL - a modern tracking app that can run many plugins very well, very easy to use and make beats
Reason - no chance of being distracted by endless plugins because its all internal
Ableton - modern daw designed with electronic musicians in mind for a very good workflow and easy recording
other daws - probably shit innit

really?!?!?!
you gonna stand there and call pro-tools, logic and nuendo/cubase shit?????
i whole-heartedly disagree

i'd say the best d.a.w. to use regardless of genre is probably whatever you have the easiest time using....as most folks in here stated watch some videos and download some demos and see whats easier
if you feel limited after a few months use another one

[Rickmansworth]

use ableton if you don't want to suck.

[86.]

I say this to folks all the time. ACID is probably one of the easiest programs to learn and use.

[scorcha]

if youre new to producing and on a pc, i'd say go with fruity loops. its probably the easiest daw to use as a beginner, yet also one of the most powerful once you dig into it. imo ableton is best and truly shines when you already have an understanding of how more conventional daws work, cos when you do jump over to ableton you'll realize how unique it is and how backwards it makes the workflow of all the other daws seem.

[abZ]

I am loving me some Ableton + Dubstep

I wouldn't recommend Reason even though I used it for years. I basically got stuck on it because the jump from there to anything else was a huge leap. Forget that, the point I want to make is, I wouldn't recommend a "starter DAW" at all. Check them all out and pick the one that seems the best to you. Forget about how hard it is to use or any of that crap. Just pick one and learn it. It is so easy to get started on whatever app you choose these days with youtube tutorials and whatnot. Soo jealous of the n00bs nowadays. When I was learning everything seemed like it was programmed in greek just couldn't get my head around them and tutorials or some dork to to walk you through shit seemed so hard to find or too expensive.

In short, Ableton

[ianks]

i love ableton, cuz i can play my bass live with dummy clips on my APC40... it puts the fun back in automation.

[jsilver]

protools - needs special hardware
cubase - first version was for the atari in 1989. (hint: not as modern of a design as ableton)
logic - i had a mac i'd still use ableton, but i use XP

[gh02]

has anyone moved from FLstudio to Live?? After a year on FL, I still find it difficult to get a track finished. Abletons workflow seems more intuitive to me from messing around on a demo, but the transition and another steep learning curve is a bit daunting!

[nowaysj]

Somethings better in live, somethings not. There is a learning curve. I think in a months time you could make tracks in there.

[Bazzle09]

Anyone that says reason is shit hasn't used it properly, its fucking amazing, but you have to rewire it onto something else (ableton of course) to get some good results.

Been using Reason since 02' - 7 years of playing with the Subtractor synth, and i can make better sounds on it than any other VST, that i have tried.

But yeah, get ableton, as previously said, reason is pretty much past it now.

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Heres a track made with reason inside ableton...

Soundcloud

Drums - Reason
Bass - Reason

Just shined with Wavearts plugs, not alot of processing at all.

[scorcha]

has anyone moved from FLstudio to Live?? After a year on FL, I still find it difficult to get a track finished. Abletons workflow seems more intuitive to me from messing around on a demo, but the transition and another steep learning curve is a bit daunting!

yeah...started out on fl studio and used it for about 4 years. then picked up a demo of live, followed the built in lessons and was converted in about 2 hours. tried opening up fl a few times since but once you're comfortable with live there's no going back....the only thing i miss about fl studio is the peak controller. i say just follow live's built in lessons, watch some youtube videos and stick to it. make a commitment to learn ONE program in and out. you wont regret it. and if you have a basic idea of how fl studio works, you'll be blown away by what live can do.

but with that said, fl is one of the easiest daws imo to get stuff down quickly, and if you can't write a song in fl, you may have just as much trouble in any other daw. maybe not. just gotta find what works for you and keep at it.

good luck

[abZ]

Anyone that says reason is shit hasn't used it properly, its fucking amazing, but you have to rewire it onto something else (ableton of course) to get some good results.

Been using Reason since 02' - 7 years of playing with the Subtractor synth, and i can make better sounds on it than any other VST, that i have tried.

But yeah, get ableton, as previously said, reason is pretty much past it now.

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That is a bullshit statement. I used Reason from 02 up until a year ago. I couldn't be happier to be off of that program. I have done back and used it a few times and I just birch and moan about it the whole time You can make good shit on anything Reason included if you are good enough. It just seems liek a bad move to start out on it in these days and time. At least use something with VST support. I remember feeling so left out on these message boards because I used Reason exclusively. Don't be that guy! There are some seriously amazing VST out there these days.

[nowaysj]

It just seems liek a bad move to start out on it in these days and time.

[djchainz]

Ableton seems to work for me!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9q6Fhsojdg

[the dub lemon]

You can make stuff which sounds like fairly convincing dubstep in ableton but sadly it's not real dubstep, proper dubstep can only be made in fruity loops

[trike12]

i use FL studio, seems to work very well for me.. but all this talk about ableton and that it should be the program of the future ( though it could be (and propably is in most ways) bollocks!? ) gives me a feeling of insecurity about my daw. I think ill try the ableton demo today, see if its something i wanna get into..

[86.]

i use FL studio, seems to work very well for me.. but all this talk about ableton and that it should be the program of the future ( though it could be (and propably is in most ways) bollocks!? ) gives me a feeling of insecurity about my daw. I think ill try the ableton demo today, see if its something i wanna get into..

for live performance, yes, it seems to be the case.


hurts my head to try and think what ableton will be like come version 10-12.

or any DAW for that matter.

[the dub lemon]

for live performance, yes, it seems to be the case.

hurts my head to try and think what ableton will be like come version 10-12.

or any DAW for that matter.

Agreed with live performance, ableton most definitely leads the way here! For making tunes I do much prefer Cubase, that may be because I'm so used to it but I really do prefer it when it comes to making tracks. However I can see ableton become my on the go production system because it's already on my laptop for the live stuff and I think it seems like a good option for knocking together ideas while travelling about.

I also definitely agree that the next few versions of ableton might get incredibly complex, especially with the addition of MAX/MSP too. Personally I'm really looking forward to the ableton/Serato stuff since I use serato alot too.

[86.]

for live performance, yes, it seems to be the case.

hurts my head to try and think what ableton will be like come version 10-12.

or any DAW for that matter.

Agreed with live performance, ableton most definitely leads the way here! For making tunes I do much prefer Cubase, that may be because I'm so used to it but I really do prefer it when it comes to making tracks. However I can see ableton become my on the go production system because it's already on my laptop for the live stuff and I think it seems like a good option for knocking together ideas while travelling about.

I also definitely agree that the next few versions of ableton might get incredibly complex, especially with the addition of MAX/MSP too. Personally I'm really looking forward to the ableton/Serato stuff since I use serato alot too.

when I first started making beats I went through a few programs. Nuendo was one of them...Nuendo is like Cubase right?

[the dub lemon]

when I first started making beats I went through a few programs. Nuendo was one of them...Nuendo is like Cubase right?

Yeah, Nuendo is Cubase's extremely expensive big brother, I've never really used Nuendo but from what I understand Nuendo is more gear to post production and working with videos and stuff, I think it can do everything Cubase can do but if you're just making tunes then it probably more sensible to stick with Cubase.

The other thing to mention is that the most recent version of Cubase which has been cracked is SX3, so assuming when you tried it you tried a cracked copy then you won't have experienced the newer and much much nicer Cubase 4 or 5 which have a lot of improvements.

Anyway, back to ableton....