so what are we missing here?

[misk]

...lifetyle change...

dude, its okay to be gay parson, we dont mind, just like. dont stand so close to me

seriously tho, if you started with an MP3 label, it would require little to no start up income. i know that to get your shit on iTunes, all you need is a UPC code, and a federal copyright. Together thats a total of like $75.

you dont have to do it... dont know if im gonna, but its food for thought.

[blk plague]

im very inspired by this post..

[metalboxproducts]

why dont we start a forum label?

Mmm thats a really good idea. Surprised no one thought of that earlier..

[misk]

yeah it is a good idea. i suppose i'd be down to help with that.

im kinda of torn though. I see the merit in starting my own label and promoting myself, but another part of me, the superficial part, wants to be acknowledged by labels in the scene as someone who knows whats up and is producing good shit.

i suppose i'll have to start by producing better shit

but id rather 'ride' on the previous success of getting signed to a few labels before i started my own. maybe i just need to be more confidant? Regardless, i keep producing, so i suppose its just a matter of continuing to hone my skills, and being patient.

and yeah, there will be more labels in 2007. Some of em will be people on here who've started labels, some of em will be 'outside sources'. Its fairly evident that dubstep is getting bigger (thanks URB!) and if we keep nourishing a creative environment for people to express themselves as they produce, eventually many more people will be drawn to our scene.

[blk plague]

yeah it is a good idea. i suppose i'd be down to help with that.

im kinda of torn though. I see the merit in starting my own label and promoting myself, but another part of me, the superficial part, wants to be acknowledged by labels in the scene as someone who knows whats up and is producing good shit.

i suppose i'll have to start by producing better shit

but id rather 'ride' on the previous success of getting signed to a few labels before i started my own. maybe i just need to be more confidant? Regardless, i keep producing, so i suppose its just a matter of continuing to hone my skills, and being patient.

and yeah, there will be more labels in 2007. Some of em will be people on here who've started labels, some of em will be 'outside sources'. Its fairly evident that dubstep is getting bigger (thanks URB!) and if we keep nourishing a creative environment for people to express themselves as they produce, eventually many more people will be drawn to our scene.

real talk!

[feralbrown]

there's a ton of tunes and not a ton of labels

i've been sending my shit out for months and get no responses

Hey man...
here's a response...
(sorry it's been so long)

Played a few of your tracks about 6 weeks or so ago... Crowd LAPPED IT UP!!! They absolutely loved it... I had a few of 'em ask me (in their inevitably munted states ) about those "wobbly tunes" (as I mentioned, I'm a grab-bag of audio-insanity... genres are for bitches!) and I passed on your name, and told them to google ya... dunno if anything came of it, though, but I'll definately give a few of them a reminder...

One dude who particularly dug your stuff was a mate of mine named Brownie aka FarmerCyst, who co-operates a little indie label called Fuck House Productions (FHP) and who is associated with the now defunct BloodyFist label... He was completely off-chops, and I haven't seen him again since then, but I'll write down your Tractor-Pull link and stick it in my wallet for next time I do...

I'll PM you a proper rundown and some piccies when I get the chance... life's been a bit fukn hectic lately...

[demento]

i guess the main problem facing new labels these days is the dualism of vinyl vs mp3. In this scene the impetus has been on getting your dubs cut and living the vinyl dream, however that proves difficult when it comes to marketing with regards to distribution (check the whole Intergroove situation [murky shit!]). On the other hand you can go digital and face the future but expect poorer quality sound (until technology catches up, if ever) in comparison to vinyl.

setting up a digital label is tons easier that traditional record labels however it's all about getting wax innit? i'm more into the aesthetical ideas of good artwork and proppa presentation over quantity, there must be a way to get both though surely?

[misk]

i agree demento.

its interesting to be a producer/musician/dj/whatever in a time when even the largest music corporations on the planet, like the RIAA, dont have the slightest clue how to run this game.

Rappers feature 15 other rappers on their albums in hopes of creating a CD full of singles that people will feel compelled to buy because even they, are losing money.

its kinda scary for people like us, as a sucessful, universal model for music business has yet to be carved out of this new frontier, but at the same time, its rather exciting too.

regarding vinyl, theres a certain amount of legitimacy that comes from being on vinyl. even if your the best mp3 producer on the best mp3 label, people seem to think that you need to be on vinyl to be officially branded as 'good'. I dont think this is right, nor do i agree with it, but i think that the majority of every scene out there (in electronic music) kinda has this attitide.

[nathanbeach]

dd

[sterling]

im shocked to learn that ppl like parson and misk have submitted music to labels and heard nothing in reply! they make some great tunes along with numerous other ppl on this forum. im quite proud of my dubstep forum productions playlist/folder and look fwd to it growing. its rather discouraging for the producers that inspire me to be turned down by labels because i have the same dream/goal myself. im anxious to become a part of the mp3 trading that goes on here and to receive some feedback. but im a bit nervous to post anything ive done because of the great quality of the posted tunes. i did see that ekstrak's "mass dampers" is getting released. i first heard fo that tune here so thats good news i guess. isnt that gonna be on a new label as well? i live in the midwestern usa where good music just doesnt exsist-without the internet i wouldnt even know about dubstep! so i have no expectations of an american label getting hip anytime soon. anyway, i just wanna send a general large up to all the producers on this forum cause you guys do some great stuff. i try to provide some sort of positive feedback to all the tunes i dl here. i know i would appreciate the same if and when i post.

[misk]

Thanks for the kind words sterling
for the record, i dont think im that good. All i can see is my producing flaws! i suppose thats good tho, because the day you think your the shit is the day you stop growing.

And i have had some label interest, things are in the works. But i agree with a lot of people on here, theres a ton of tunes and not enought labels. In the future their will be labels that release tunes similar to the ones parson and i make (which can be rather, dissimmilar, at times ) but for now there are only a handfull.

i was reading the latest computer music magazine the other day....
Not much in it aside from some reviews, but they had an interview with the beatfreakz and on the cover, they reveal the 'secrets' to their success.

"Luck, perspiration, and endless amounts of hope"

yeah its cliche, but seriously, i cant tell you how many days ive wanted to throw in the towel. but in the end, i have hope, and we all should too.

theres a reason pandora left it in the box....

yeah...

[demento]

the day you think your the shit is the day you stop growing..

werd

[sterling]

Thanks for the kind words sterling
for the record, i dont think im that good. All i can see is my producing flaws! i suppose thats good tho, because the day you think your the shit is the day you stop growing.

secrets' to their success:
"Luck, perspiration, and endless amounts of hope"

yeah its cliche, but seriously, i cant tell you how many days ive wanted to throw in the towel. but in the end, i have hope, and we all should too.

thanx for the quality tunes. seriously misk, "shuggoth" has a five star rating in my itunes. i love the vibe of that track and cant get enough of it! my best friend has been slow to come around to dubstep, but he also enjoys that one. he commented on it from the next room during a conversation, which i think is saying a lot.

i understand what you say about only seeing your flaws as i also tend to be very self critical. sometimes so much so that it inhibits me from getting anything done, but thats a different matter. good advice that is though.

[misk]

wow, thats cool about shuggoth! i had no idea

The important thing ive found, is to be a perfectionist with your ideas, but also know when to throw caution to the wind and move on to the next part of your tune. sometimes it can be debilitating, but the trick is to perservere through your frustration or boredom ( a BIG one for me). Its funny, we're just making dubstep here, not like, clay pots or paintings, but this is a creative process that is very much also a process of self discovery.

Its easy to learn the tools, its harder to know what you want to do with em.

[bze]

Been eatin the same fckin determination for breakfast for like 8-9 years now and the score is barely on + side.

Saying that u need a pc and connection for making a tune is utter bs but well it's a start. Making a proper release, well, whole different story.

Its easy to learn the tools, its harder to know what you want to do with em.

When you know what you want to do, you'll need to know The Music. That's the hard part