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Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:30 pm
by abZ
Most of the "jungle" these days is just jungle influenced dnb if you want to get that technical. IMO it is the same thing if you think dubstep and garage are the same thing. Jungle was the nickname for the genre that became dnb. We would probably still be calling it jungle but they purposely shed the name because of the racist implications. I think it was the product of a meeting that Goldie had with the big names in London which I still lol out. Not even sure if it is true yet I believe it at the same time.

Anyway all the advice here is good. I endorse.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 10:56 pm
by tripaddict
abZ wrote:Most of the "jungle" these days is just jungle influenced dnb if you want to get that technical. IMO it is the same thing if you think dubstep and garage are the same thing. Jungle was the nickname for the genre that became dnb. We would probably still be calling it jungle but they purposely shed the name because of the racist implications. I think it was the product of a meeting that Goldie had with the big names in London which I still lol out. Not even sure if it is true yet I believe it at the same time.

Anyway all the advice here is good. I endorse.
press gave dnb its name someone described it as just 'drums and bass' (this came after jungle)

and jungle was a racist tag the media gave it but it went the other way and became endorsed by the scene :)

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:11 pm
by JFK
tripaddict wrote:
and jungle was a racist tag the media gave it but it went the other way and became endorsed by the scene :)
Really?? Thats interesting man. I never knew that.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:14 pm
by tripaddict
JFK wrote:
tripaddict wrote:
and jungle was a racist tag the media gave it but it went the other way and became endorsed by the scene :)
Really?? Thats interesting man. I never knew that.
fact! 8)

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:32 pm
by mks
All Junglists!!!

:dubstep rave:

I used to just augment the hi-hats in the break with a drum machine or sample, or just chop the break and re-sample the hats out of that. All you need really. Also when you have multiple breaks working with each other you just naturally get really cool hi-hat patterns, just filter and eq.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:00 am
by abZ
tripaddict wrote:
abZ wrote:Most of the "jungle" these days is just jungle influenced dnb if you want to get that technical. IMO it is the same thing if you think dubstep and garage are the same thing. Jungle was the nickname for the genre that became dnb. We would probably still be calling it jungle but they purposely shed the name because of the racist implications. I think it was the product of a meeting that Goldie had with the big names in London which I still lol out. Not even sure if it is true yet I believe it at the same time.

Anyway all the advice here is good. I endorse.
press gave dnb its name someone described it as just 'drums and bass' (this came after jungle)

and jungle was a racist tag the media gave it but it went the other way and became endorsed by the scene :)
I think you give the press / media too much credit. They spread the genre names around sure but I don't beleive they were the ones to coin the terms. It is probably pretty tough to prove anything but the way I have it figured is that it was coined by the punters and then picked up by the media and artists. I am pretty sure drum&bass was coined by the artists themselves, more specifically Metalheadz around the time they were owning it. Honestly I can't back any of it up but I have been into dnb since 95 hardcore and even before that casually, this is how I have the history filtered for myself.

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:35 am
by upstateface
Mmm Metalheadz :D

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:11 am
by setspeed
that one sounds reasonably straightforward.

if you listen closely you can here there are 3 main sounds:

2 are doing 16ths on hihats, they're basically the same but slightly different pitch, and the 3rd is a ride on every beat :)

Re: DnB/Jungle hi-hat patterns?

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:13 am
by grooki
some thing else which makes Jungle and Dnb patterns dynamic is to have a louder hihat or ride on every beat that isn't a snare or a kick. If done to the OP's track it would be mainly "upbeats", but on more irregular drum patterns this makes parallel rythems which are awesome.