Government tricks

[Milky Pirate]

Nice to see people having a valid debate instead of flaming..
And hackman, im in secondary school now, and im the only person in the whole school that didn't get the swine flu vaccine.

[symmetricalsounds]

how do you protect yourself then?

do your really think you know better than the 100's of healthcare professionals out there? having worked in the NHS inside the office which dealt with admin for new studies i've seen the amount of work each person has to go through to get a study from idea to actually happening. i've seen the amount of safeguards at every point in the process.

you can be paranoid about things, but using some common sense too usually goes a long way. do you really think every single doctor out there is really out to do you harm? all these people who are willing to work ridiculous hours for not much reward yet they carry on working in the NHS as oppose to going private, do you really think these people don't have a clue what they're on about and are part of a massive conspiracy to fuck peoples lives up?

[AntlionUK]

we're not talking about the doctors. it's the companies and businessmen on the other end of the puppet strings.

[hackman]

http://www.safeminds.org/research/New-S ... rcury.html
http://www.generationrescue.org/home
http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=6 ... 1597334345
http://www.autismmadeintheusa.com/
http://www.callous-disregard.com/

edit for bad link posted in haste

[symmetricalsounds]

we're not talking about the doctors. it's the companies and businessmen on the other end of the puppet strings.

who the fuck do you think administer and approve these procedures?

[AntlionUK]

we're not talking about the doctors. it's the companies and businessmen on the other end of the puppet strings.

who the fuck do you think administer and approve these procedures?

the people who get paid to.

[feral witchchild]

like when i got the clap lol

I like the casualness with which you state this. lol

For those who think the swine flu vaccines were somehow benign, I'd suggest doing a little reading about squalene and it's long-term effects when it is introduced unnaturally into the human body.

[hackman]

how do you protect yourself then?

i eat healthily, i look after my body, i take vitamins, echinacea etc when i feel myself getting ill, homeopathy, acupuncture, i make sure i get enough sunlight so i produce vitamin D, etc etc etc
anything but vaccinations and most forms of antibiotics
and guess what?
the last time i was ill with anything (tonsillitis) was about 6 years ago!

do your really think you know better than the 100's of healthcare professionals out there?

if you knew anything about this you realise that there are also 100's of healthcare professionals who are against vaccination
and a fair few who are for vaccination, but when you ask them if they've been vaccinated they deny it lol

you can be paranoid about things

paranoid is living in fear, i'm not afraid of it, i just avoid it

do you really think every single doctor out there is really out to do you harm?

no as already said
also, as antlion said, it's not necessarily the doctors that are at blame, they genuinely are trying to the right thing but they have been taught incorrectly about the dangers of vaccination
it's the pharmaceutical companies

[hackman]

we're not talking about the doctors. it's the companies and businessmen on the other end of the puppet strings.

who the fuck do you think administer and approve these procedures?

you don't actually think doctors and nurses have any say in the approval of vaccinations do you? lol

[symmetricalsounds]

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi ... ne.0003140
^that link you posted argues for the fact that there is no link between the MMR and autism.

Over 20 epidemiologic studies reported no temporal relationship between MMR and ASD [13]–[33], and three studies found no MV RNA in PBMC of ASD children [34]–[36]; however, no published studies from other research groups have addressed whether MV RNA is present in bowel of ASD children with GI disturbances. Here we report independent, blinded analysis of ileal and cecal tissues from children with ASD and GI disturbances and children with GI disturbances but no neurological deficits for the presence of MV RNA in three laboratories, including the one where the original reports of an association between ASD and MV were obtained.

@antlion - those people who get paid to are doctors. they oversee all these programs, they can't happen without approval from several boards of doctors.

RE- swine flu vaccine - the risk from swine flu was less than normal flu, so only people in really high-risk groups needed it.

@hackman - everything you have said is invalid as you believe in homeopathy

[Milky Pirate]

we're not talking about the doctors. it's the companies and businessmen on the other end of the puppet strings.

who the fuck do you think administer and approve these procedures?

Do you really think they give a shit about the people? all the pharmaceutical companies want is money, and they will do anything to get that money, including making fake vaccines that do people harm. think about it, they release a swine flu vaccine which gives you polio, and then they release a polio vaccine, (which you BUY) and it just goes in a big circle. oh, and another thing I learned in school, when they test medicine, its impossible to test long term effects..

[hackman]

@hackman - everything you have said is invalid as you believe in homeopathy

wow i thought you seemed pretty level headed, no point continuing to debate with you


(i could argue that everything you've said is invalid because you believe in vaccination, ya dumb fuck)

[AntlionUK]

like when i got the clap lol

I like the casualness with which you state this. lol

we've all been there. i'm just honest and open about it.

[particle-jim]

@hackman - everything you have said is invalid as you believe in homeopathy

wow i thought you seemed pretty level headed, no point continuing to debate with you

init, homeopathy has been around faaaaaar longer than our current medicnes and practices and is still a perfectly valid form of treatment, tho i do tend just to go for standard western practices... its free!

[Milky Pirate]

Wow.

[ashley]

Cancer is actually population control.

Discuss.

[symmetricalsounds]

homeopathy, the really useful practise of diluting something in water to such a degree that nothing useful is left in the water, dead useful.

[DRTY]

Anti vaxxers actually make me feel sick.

[hackman]

@hackman - everything you have said is invalid as you believe in homeopathy

wow i thought you seemed pretty level headed, no point continuing to debate with you

init, homeopathy has been around faaaaaar longer than our current medicnes and practices and is still a perfectly valid form of treatment, tho i do tend just to go for standard western practices... its free!

exactly, go for what works for you
fucking retarded to disregard everything i've said about vaccination (WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY RIGHT )
just cos you don't agree with me on a completely separate issue

[Milky Pirate]

I just realised he said homeopathy, not homosexuality.
That was kinda fail.