Disconnect between dubstep on dubstepforum vs. in real life

[ehl75767]

I see a disconnect. I'd mostly put that down to a lot of forum members being unable to cope with the fact that dubstep is changing and growing.

Just look at the poor guy who tried to get song IDs for an Excision set. No helpful answers so far, just people ripping.

A lot of people on this forum are unhelpful stnuc.

I feel lucky because New Zealand gets regular internationals from all points on the dubstep spectrum. It also has a wicked local scene.

Growth and diversity is healthy. Then again, i'm from New Zealand, the land that spat out Mt Eden, not Mala or Burial. So what the fuck would I know

This!

But hey its not all about mt. gayden, we got truth, dutty ranks, og...

most def man. upbeats new project are doing some exciting things as well. organikismness, tryptamine and many more are holding it down

[Sentinels]

LOL.

It's nothing simpler than the fact that you are visiting the wrong forum. Geeeeez.

http://www.brostepforum.com/

[EBR]

I understand that this is an international forum, so obviously there will be different perspectives - I'm really interested in hearing from people from all over the place.

I live in the US (Denver, Colorado), and every time I spend some time on this forum, I'm really amazed at how different the online dubstep community (as represented here on dsf, at least) is from the dubstep events that I go to (and perform at) regularly. If I had no exposure to the scene in real life, and only knew of it from this forum, I would think that a dubstep party would be all about very dark, moody, somewhat minimal music, with a crowd of people mostly interested in a meditative, pensive, introverted experience.

But the reality of most dubstep events (at least where I live) is so far from that, it's just absurd. They are all about really intense, upbeat music (sometimes aggressive, sometimes pretty, often times both), and the people are very social, all about dancing, and often twisted on all sorts of mind altering substances. Now obviously any internet forum dedicated to a style of music will tend to be populated more by the "purists" than the party kids... but I've frequented a lot of forums and their respective party scenes, and I've never encountered this extreme of a disconnect. So I'm just wondering, are there other folks that have noticed this?

It goes to show that your scene is gonna be what you make of it. I agree tho, there is a huge disconnect between the fantasy that the internet is and the reality of the street or the club. Of course you are looking at your computer and seeing plasma, ones and zeros. It going to be completely different than reality.

I always said the internet is fuckin fake. You get more reality from a 5 min walk around the block, than spending all night on the inernet. This forum and the online world its created isnt even close to imperical reality. This forum is just a shadow of the truth, so fuck it. go out there and do what ya want. I'm trying to melt sound systems... what about you ?

[dunx]

LOL.

It's nothing simpler than the fact that you are visiting the wrong forum. Geeeeez.

http://www.brostepforum.com/

What the fuck is that?

Oh and...

this site has never come close to representing anything like the whole "scene". thousands of people go to events every weekend that've probably never signed on to a forum in their lives. even if you can't afford to go to london now, work for it, and go, because until you do, you'll never fully understand this sound. london culture is unique on the planet. i don't care if you disagree. it just is.
you could be the biggest reggae collector in your country, go to every reggae website you can find, go to every reggae dance in your area....but you won't understand reggae until you've been to jamaica, and walked those streets.....eaten roast fish from a street vendor.....been to a few soundsystems. same with new york and hip hop. same with country music and nashville.

when a certain sound gets under your skin, you go as close as possible, to the kitchen where it came from.
the internet will never provide that experience for you.

Well said mate.

[Caski]

personal preference, thats all its ever gona be.

for me nothing will EVER beat a DMZ night.

n already watching old videos of dubstep back then is the 1 for me. theres some SICK new stuff being made, but would be cool if there was more than just dmz nights playing that original dubstep sound n style (or as close to that as can get). n if there is others like that, i definatly wana know about them!

[sofa_king]

OP does have a point tho. Rusko is one of the most bashed dudes on the forum and one of the most celebrated in real life (U.S. at least). no one site could represent the whole scene of course but i think there's a lot of snobbery on here as well and contempt for anything popular or mainstream.

[Pada]

I don't understand the whole "people can't take that the scene is changing" point.

Work Them doesn't sound anything like Twisup or Punisher.

It's nothing to do with not handling change.

And I find people a lot more friendly at the "introspective" nights than the "drug fueled party" so called social ones.

[pkay]

This forum also has a lot of people that do nothing more than listen to dubstep in the comfort of their own home.

TONS of people on this forum are not active in the scene outside chattin shit on the net.

In the same breath there are people who attend shows that are oblivious to the online community.

People who visit DSF are actively seeking out a place to converse about dubstep.

[sofa_king]

This forum also has a lot of people that do nothing more than listen to dubstep in the comfort of their own home.

TONS of people on this forum are not active in the scene outside chattin shit on the net.

In the same breath there are people who attend shows that are oblivious to the online community.

People who visit DSF are actively seeking out a place to converse about dubstep.

what about the people who post on the forum from their iPhone while attending shows? big up to the multi-taskers.

[pkay]

This forum also has a lot of people that do nothing more than listen to dubstep in the comfort of their own home.

TONS of people on this forum are not active in the scene outside chattin shit on the net.

In the same breath there are people who attend shows that are oblivious to the online community.

People who visit DSF are actively seeking out a place to converse about dubstep.

what about the people who post on the forum from their iPhone while attending shows? big up to the multi-taskers.

lol I've posted from my laptop while setting up searto prior to a set. Kinda pathetic lol.

[joeki]

are you the guy with the tattoo on his head ?


Disconnected from the real world? Hardly.

[pkay]

are you the guy with the tattoo on his head ?


Disconnected from the real world? Hardly.

No, I'm the dude that runs the label whose logo some sweed tattoo'd on his head.

My mellon is tattoo free

[joeki]

Hahaha this is hilarious.

Internet stories can evolve so quickly (look at the burial topic).

I run into this bloke and he says, hey I saw that guy from mindsaw, they've been doing dubstep now too. he's got the logo tattoo'd on his mellon.


Internet is disconnected in general.

[pkay]

Hahaha this is hilarious.

Internet stories can evolve so quickly (look at the burial topic).

I run into this bloke and he says, hey I saw that guy from mindsaw, they've been doing dubstep now too. he's got the logo tattoo'd on his mellon.

Internet is disconnected in general.

lol thats awesome.

[er98ah]

I live in the D.C area with baltimore being the closest dubstep scene. The problem with the scene in baltimore is that the scene consists of mostly chainsaw, aggressive loud dubstep with kids running around with glow sticks, white gloves and clown pants. All that is cool...but not my cup of tea.
The more minimal sound just does not come around. The demand is not there or the promoters are not throwing those parties..

[Omega Dub]

OP does have a point tho. Rusko is one of the most bashed dudes on the forum and one of the most celebrated in real life (U.S. at least). no one site could represent the whole scene of course but i think there's a lot of snobbery on here as well and contempt for anything popular or mainstream.

yeah, i guess that's what I was getting at. Not that I'm a huge rusko fan, but the amount of hating that goes on here is pretty crazy. No disrespect intended, but it just seems like a lot of folks on this forum have so much of their own ego/identity invested in their notion of what "real" dubstep is, there ends up being a lot of intolerance and negativity - at least in this section of the forum, I'll take the suggestion to spend some more time on the house and dubs sections. Personally, I've always relished the diversity of sound that can fall under the "dubstep" label, for the freedom that it allows for DJs and producers.

Oh, and while I do live in the US, and I have been known to write tunes that would be derisively labeled "brostep" by some folks around here, please don't mistake that for extreme ignorance on my part. I was fortunate enough to have some friends that spent summers in London back in 03/04, and turned me on to the sound when they came back to the states. I wouldn't call myself a scholar of dubstep, but I'm not exactly a noob either.

[truefiktion]

Lol at the fact that youre american and every american dances like a tnuc to anything in a club buttttt there are plenty of dubstep songs i dont rate but when i hear them in a club i do go mad which i dont get, mostly things by Doc P and Flux because they sound good in clubs and i dont want to be an outcast lol and this thread sounds like an argument about the matrix and the real world

[helix]

DSF has never just been about the dark tunes.

I was a bit confused when I read this, but then I read this:

Joined: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:10 am

I understand that this is an international forum, so obviously there will be different perspectives - I'm really interested in hearing from people from all over the place.

I live in the US (Denver, Colorado), and every time I spend some time on this forum, I'm really amazed at how different the online dubstep community (as represented here on dsf, at least) is from the dubstep events that I go to (and perform at) regularly. If I had no exposure to the scene in real life, and only knew of it from this forum, I would think that a dubstep party would be all about very dark, moody, somewhat minimal music, with a crowd of people mostly interested in a meditative, pensive, introverted experience.

But the reality of most dubstep events (at least where I live) is so far from that, it's just absurd. They are all about really intense, upbeat music (sometimes aggressive, sometimes pretty, often times both), and the people are very social, all about dancing, and often twisted on all sorts of mind altering substances. Now obviously any internet forum dedicated to a style of music will tend to be populated more by the "purists" than the party kids... but I've frequented a lot of forums and their respective party scenes, and I've never encountered this extreme of a disconnect. So I'm just wondering, are there other folks that have noticed this?

It goes to show that your scene is gonna be what you make of it. I agree tho, there is a huge disconnect between the fantasy that the internet is and the reality of the street or the club. Of course you are looking at your computer and seeing plasma, ones and zeros. It going to be completely different than reality.

I always said the internet is fuckin fake. You get more reality from a 5 min walk around the block, than spending all night on the inernet. This forum and the online world its created isnt even close to imperical reality. This forum is just a shadow of the truth, so fuck it. go out there and do what ya want. I'm trying to melt sound systems... what about you ?

I wouldn't know about this sound without the internet. I wouldn't be building tunes without the internet. I wouldn't be doing much for my personal scene (techno and deep house lately) without an internet connection.
Shit, I'm getting booked to go melt a soundsystem because of the internet.
While I will agree that the internet offers a much different kind of human interaction (as opposed to real life interaction), it's are no less substantial, just made of a different substance, if you will.

[Omega Dub]

Lol at the fact that youre american and every american dances like a tnuc to anything in a club

speaking of intolerance and negativity, lol.

[pkay]

OP does have a point tho. Rusko is one of the most bashed dudes on the forum and one of the most celebrated in real life (U.S. at least). no one site could represent the whole scene of course but i think there's a lot of snobbery on here as well and contempt for anything popular or mainstream.

yeah, i guess that's what I was getting at. Not that I'm a huge rusko fan, but the amount of hating that goes on here is pretty crazy. No disrespect intended, but it just seems like a lot of folks on this forum have so much of their own ego/identity invested in their notion of what "real" dubstep is, there ends up being a lot of intolerance and negativity - at least in this section of the forum, I'll take the suggestion to spend some more time on the house and dubs sections. Personally, I've always relished the diversity of sound that can fall under the "dubstep" label, for the freedom that it allows for DJs and producers.

Oh, and while I do live in the US, and I have been known to write tunes that would be derisively labeled "brostep" by some folks around here, please don't mistake that for extreme ignorance on my part. I was fortunate enough to have some friends that spent summers in London back in 03/04, and turned me on to the sound when they came back to the states. I wouldn't call myself a scholar of dubstep, but I'm not exactly a noob either.

You've got one of the more solid dubstep scenes in the US in Denver. There are lots of people doing big things in your city.

One of the beautiful things about Dubstep in the US is that we aren't confined by the expectations of the UK. No matter what we do, a handfull of retards are gonna chat shit on us no matter what so fuck it. Just do whatever gets you going.

Use this site for what its worth, networking and bare lols. Under no circumstances should you let DSF dictate your taste in music.